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It's amazing the new ways these companies try to get always on microphones and cameras into everyone's home.

Luna sounds interesting, at least they are going the Netflix route which is the only way to go IMO. But it all depends on what games they can have and if they can avoid the crap Nvidia has to deal with. I'm still waiting for the holy grail, a streaming service that all game companies allow for a decent price, although I'm going to be waiting forever as we don't even have that with television.
 
You make a good point - my understanding is the main difference is that a Web app is essentially sandboxed, it doesn't have hardware or software access to the device or its operating system, at least not to the same level as an app.

The other issue is how could Apple define something running in a browser being against its terms of service, and how to enforce it?

All apps are sandboxed on iOS... Web apps do have access to hardware (think camera, microphone...) but I didn't think Safari supported the HTML5 gamepad API though. If it does this is viable on iOS. Otherwise its not appealing.

One way to test to use a gamepad on iOS and try this site:


The other big issue is tvOS does't have a browser so its a non-starter for AppleTV -> but being an Amazon service a FireStick/Cube would be best. And AndroidTV devices.
 
Imagine waking up in the middle of the night and seeing your newly bought amazon drone camera recording you while you're sleeping.
I'm doubt many can sleep through a drone flying around their house so you won't be getting much sleep if your Amazon drone patrols during that time.
 
So what is different about this than xCloud or Stadia other than it runs in a browser? Isn’t the functionality essentially the same? So Apple doesn’t need to review every game or take 30% of subs if you’re accessing it via Safari and not a Luna Cloud iOS app? And all the concerns about privacy and safety no longer exist?
They don't run in the browser on iOS. They could do exactly the same, but they don't want to.
 
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At a quick glance the Show almost looked like an old iMac... which was the best designed iMac IMHO

Agreed. That was my favorite computer I ever owned. I miss it so much. I really wish they'd bring that design back with a refreshed look.

That Echo show totally emulates (or it is imitates?) the old lamp i-mac.
 
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That always home drone thing is just CREEPY and I am saying this as a echo owner

It's totally out of a bad 80's horror movie that I can't recall the name too. It took place in the future and had smart homes with smart robots and appliances that turned homicidal. I can see that Ring device being the reboot.
 
Tiger 🐯 and Panda 🐼 I want, but then I realize Amazon made these..
 
My cat will do everything in his power to take down that drone if I got it

My thoughts exactly. Either your cat will swat at it, slam it into something and kill it; or your large breed dog will swat it down and chew it to death or eat it. Any bets on how long before either of those events happen and you find yourself re-ordering? Expensive cat or dog toys, for sure.
 
Who would Amazon sell it to? Apple and Amazon both have internal uses for user data. Also, with every big tech company moving into every space, you don't know what they're going to use the stash for later.
Apple can only use that data to make their products better through innovation while Amazon has built an entire store to use that data for advertisers and to fulfill government requests that break privacy laws.
 
well Arm might give you a little hint

Apple didn't call theirs "A" because of ARM, they called it A for Apple and everyone as usual has copied Apple's naming scheme. It's better to roughly associate your brand with a renowned excellent performing chip than say an S800 from Qualcomm.
 
Apple can only use that data to make their products better through innovation while Amazon has built an entire store to use that data for advertisers and to fulfill government requests that break privacy laws.
No matter how you phrase it, they use that data to sell things. Apple also fulfills government requests, like everyone else. Seriously anyone who cares about privacy should safeguard it themselves.
 
No matter how you phrase it, they use that data to sell things. Apple also fulfills government requests, like everyone else. Seriously anyone who cares about privacy should safeguard it themselves.
The world doesn't work in black and white as you portray it. If one really cares about security and privacy, "Safeguard it yourself" means live completely off the grid and use no technology. That is unacceptable for 99.9% of the population. And on the other hand, telling someone to "safeguard it yourself" is near impossible for young adults, elders and many technologically illiterate folks. Do you really not care about the millions of these people too?

Different companies have earned levels of security and privacy trust with consumers. No one lives completely off the grid or entirely on either. As adults, we make choices for ourselves and our children that usually starts with the companies we choose to support and engage with. I don't know anyone that would go all in on every Facebook product because they have a terrible reputation. I do know some that would go all in on every Apple product and no one else because Apple is more transparent and trustworthy to them. No one company is perfect so people choose a variety of companies and products and services that they feel comfortable with.
 
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The world doesn't work in black and white as you portray it. If one really cares about security and privacy, "Safeguard it yourself" means live completely off the grid and use no technology. That is unacceptable for 99.9% of the population. And on the other hand, telling someone to "safeguard it yourself" is near impossible for young adults, elders and many technologically illiterate folks. Do you really not care about the millions of these people too?

Different companies have earned levels of security and privacy trust with consumers. No one lives completely off the grid or entirely on either. As adults, we make choices for ourselves and our children that usually starts with the companies we choose to support and engage with. I don't know anyone that would go all in on every Facebook product because they have a terrible reputation. I do know some that would go all in on every Apple product and no one else because Apple is more transparent and trustworthy to them. No one company is perfect so people choose a variety of companies and products and services that they feel comfortable with.
Yes, except most people are on the extreme where they trust every company with their info or trust a few with anything. There are easy ways you can avoid giving out unnecessary info, and one of them is *not* spending large amounts of money to install mic-capable smart speakers all over your house for no real purpose.

(turns out HomePod, along with Alexa and Google Home, has been sending recordings to QA)
 
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Sunflower-iMac mini! (a few years late!)

I hadn’t realised when I posted before, but it seems Amazon mostly just watched Apple’s iMac G4 ad as a shortcut to product development :D

From The Verge:

THE NEW ECHO SHOW 10 CAN MOVE ITS SCREEN TO LOOK AT YOU
Amazon’s new Echo Show 10 smart display is attached to a motorized base that automatically moves to face you as you move around a room and interact with the device.

 
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