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I've got no problem with focused ads. I'm just saying we (myself included) should take the message with a grain of salt. Sure, the iPad is a better all-in-one, but maybe Amazon didn't intend the ad for single people.

Sorry, I really hadn't gotten that from your original comment. My bad.
 
Yes. He was wrong in identifying the company in the ad. The point is the same and valid, however.

I never denied that. It's just a bit jarring to go through an otherwise good post and just have it hit a wall at the end there. :p

I hope apple leads the push in the industry for workers rights. Seeing as it is a corporation however.....

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I never denied that. It's just a bit jarring to go through an otherwise good post and just have it hit a wall at the end there. :p

I hope apple leads the push in the industry for workers rights. Seeing as it is a corporation however.....

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I fixed my post for accuracy. Thank you.

I was very young when this commercial came out. and nearly 30 years and a few hits to the head does a good job at jarring loose small facts like names :p
Especialyl when the rest of the post i was saying PC, my brain just hiccuped to Microsoft.

I just find it terribly amusing on this site, whenever you say anything that doesn't put Apple on a pedestal you're absolutely attacked or ignored.

One of my posts earlier i made the joke on purpose to leave out Apple in comparison and include a comparison to the playbook. Of course someone makes comments about "stopped reading there".

I've learned that being a moderate and actually wanting to be informed about everything all the time, and not just devote myself to owning / using 1 companies product means im automatically "dumber" than someone who owns 100% apple products. Cause heaven forbid anyone here actually enjoys using as many different products from as many manufacturers as possible to get an informed opinion
 
I just wish Apple would have a 2 or 3 month sale on the ipad 2 once 3 comes out. sure, it would maybe cannabilize the ipad 3 sales, but if they had a firesale on the ipad, it would DESTROY amazon and any other competitor.

I mean, Apple's already destroying them, but it would be the great final step in squashing the competition imho.

I may be wrong...it's just my opinion, but I see an ad like this and I think if I were Apple, I'd turn the tide on Amazon and have that sale which would just crush them. "You wanna play with the big boys, bring it on. " :)

Don't get me wrong, I think the Kindle and fire are good for what they are, but I thought Amazon had already indicated they weren't the same device as the ipad so they didn't want to compete.
This ad seems to say otherwise.

On the other hand, it's great for competition b/c i'm sure the Apple ego will make them continue to better their products.

I know I'm probably going to sell my ipad 1 and buy the 3 if it's out when i'm in the US in March. I just happened to be there last year when my wife got her ipad 2 (she uses it for work, mine is partially for work and partially for entertainment).

Cheers,
Keebler
You do realize that competition is good for the consumer don't you?

Apple 'destroying' the competition doesn't 'win' anything for you. (oh wait, let me guess - you're going to claim you own thousand of shares in Apple....)

Look at the iPhone. A lack of competition resulted in trivial updates like landscape keyboards, 1 MPS camera and MMS coming year late. A perceived threat by Android led to the iPhone 4 sporting an HD video camera, retina display, etc.

The best thing for the consumers is for Amazon, Samsung and others to keep pushing Apple (and each other) to innovate.
 
I fixed my post for accuracy. Thank you.

I was very young when this commercial came out. and nearly 30 years and a few hits to the head does a good job at jarring loose small facts like names :p

I've hit my head a few times and lost more than that :p

I just realized that in the context-less world of forums, my post may have appeared to be a bit rude, I hope you didn't take it that way.
 
A lot of the time its not about the apps. A lot of people barely use apps, if at all with tablet devices. Its more about the experience, ease of use, and web browsing really.

Plus most people are blinded by the shiny factor of Apple products. The iPad definitely isnt the best tablet on the market at the moment, but the exquisite marketing campaigns Apple produce make it seem that way. Unless you desperately want that Biology Encyclopaedia with 3D models that makes you feel smart, there are plenty of other better alternatives, i.e. ASUS Prime, Galaxy Tab 7.7, etc.

That being said, the super high res screen in the iPad 3 can only help improve sales. When the time comes I will most likely trade in my PlayBook and go back to the iPad, depending on how OS2.0 turns out AND providing Samsung dont go and announce a Galaxy Tab 10.1 with a Super AMOLED Plus screen. Not matter how high the screen res is, Apple use screens that are garbage compared to Samsung. They really need to use some of that $80billion spare change and invest in some awesome OLED screens.
Well maybe I'm in the minority but I care more about apps than specs. And for me, other than Safari crashing every day :rolleyes:, the entire experience I have with my iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch is miles better than anything I ever had with an Android product. So Apple products may not win out on specs, but I think they do when it comes to user experience.
 
You do realize that competition is good for the consumer don't you?

Apple 'destroying' the competition doesn't 'win' anything for you. (oh wait, let me guess - you're going to claim you own thousand of shares in Apple....)

Look at the iPhone. A lack of competition resulted in trivial updates like landscape keyboards, 1 MPS camera and MMS coming year late. A perceived threat by Android led to the iPhone 4 sporting an HD video camera, retina display, etc.

The best thing for the consumers is for Amazon, Samsung and others to keep pushing Apple (and each other) to innovate.

Methinks you have a fundamental misunderstanding of product pipelines. By the time a product is introduced, you know that its sequel is well under development right?
 
Yeah, and I could buy like 3 Kia Rios for the price of a single Range Rover. That totally makes the Kia Rio a superior car, right you guys?

Well, if three people in your home have a commute, and your only choices are 1 range rover or 3 kia's, then the rio becomes a superior car.

Also, you can buy 5 Rios for the starting price of a Range Rover.
 
I've hit my head a few times and lost more than that :p

I just realized that in the context-less world of forums, my post may have appeared to be a bit rude, I hope you didn't take it that way.

as soon as I read your post. I facepalmed. shook my head from the starts from the facepalm, and corrected.

Took no offence cause I should have cought myself. I don't mind being wrong. I take being wrong as a learning experience.
 
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so what they are saying is they treat the chinese workers even worse than apple? I get the feeling this make foxconn look like a resort holiday.
 
Yeah, but having a 10 inch credit card wired into the app store is an ENTIRELY different situation altogether. Cuz, you know, you like the iPad. That makes it different.

Lame, lame argument.

Well, it was meant to be entirely different in that Amazon tied the Kindle Fire to a One-Click account. No password required to order anything. Which is entirely different than an iPad.
 
Yeah because responsable parent are going to let there kids have a 7inch credit card hard wired into Amazon. The Fire is a one person device you don't dare share it with anyone. The Kindle is a one trick pony good for reading in bright light but substandard or unusable for anything else.

Actually you can initialize it with an account, set it up , then remove the account.
 
Why are people so unable to look at this ad objectively?

Because for the first time since the introduction of the iPhone, there is a device out there that is better at something than anything Apple makes, and they find certain parts of the competitor attractive. It's the same thing that happens when Windows users sit down and start using a Mac for the first time, and accidentally discover how easy it is to type in accented characters, or see what Time Machine does.
 
Can't we all just get along :)

If this commercial represented reality, every person in it would have BOTH an iPad AND a Kindle Fire. Of course the iPad schmokes everything on the market, as does Apple's entire arsenal of awesomeness. Apple innovates and the world imitates... DUH

But that being said, the intrinsic value of the Fire is not only the low price. It's that it is directly integrated to amazon's entire catalog of services. It can stream 100,000 movies and tv shows from the amazon cloud for FREE for being a prime member, it can stream your entire music library from the amazon cloud player without having to first download every song like iTunes Match, and it comes out of the box preconfigured to access your entire kindle book and audible audio book libraries. And although the Fire runs on clunky droid OS, and is sometimes a little sluggish to respond to finger movements...

They're both pretty darn cool in their own ways, so just buy both. There's room in this sandbox for everyone. Can't we all just get along?? :p
 
KIA makes really good cars now...especially the new Rio, Sportage, Optima, and Sorento.

You would have done better to compare it to a Yugo.

I agree. Kia cars are improving year after year. Same goes for Hyundai (which owns Kia, I bet you didn't know that).
In regards to the ad, I think it is well made and simple. Does the job and is far better than the Samsung ones IMO.
 
Actually, WalMart here had an offer $199 for a Kindle Fire including a $50 WalMart gift card. If you buy your groceries at the same time, you can buy 3 Kindle Fire for less than $500. My mother-in-law got one for reading only. She has an iPad 2 as well... I thought about it but I have my iPad with me al the time so there is no need. I mean, the Kindle Fire is really not that bad for the price of $150. Yea, it lacks a lot but that is not the point - the point is what you can get for less than $200 - and that is a lot. For many women, the iPad does not pass the "purse test" since it is just too big and heavy while the Kindle Fire is more compact and yet has a big enough display. And for people with a very limited set of needs - hence no productivity, only browsing and reading - the Kindle Fire is a valid option. Since I'm male, "purse test" is not a criterium for me and I want the productivity and 3G, maps, and all the other things the iPad can but Kindle cannot provide.
If you shop for presents, honestly, the Kindle cuts it! It is definitely not saying "You are not worth an iPad" because it is built well and does not perform that bad. I think before the Kindle Fire, every producer of tablets was trying to imitate Apple without real success because they couldn't meet the price point and in comparison were lacking the final polish as a comprehensive package.
The Kindle Fire is different: It is partially based on the experience of the other Kindles, it is smaller, it does have a different purpose, and most of all: it has a different price point. It does not compete with the iPad, it split the market in two where the iPad was dominating alone before. Now, there is a low-price, few-feature market dominated by the Kindle and a medium-to-high price, good-to-top feature market dominated by the iPad.
Of course, Amazon has to compare their product to the iPad to point out their advantages. That is like - I think it was Kia - a low price car producer compared their "standard equipment" list to a Mercedes where some of these items were pricy extras. Still, the Kia is not comparable to a Mercedes and without pointing this out, Kia did not try to suggest that. Same here: Kindle Fire is not an iPad and - in my opinion - Amazon just points out the difference.
 
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Is it just me or is amazon shooting themselves in the foot with this one. Why the hell would I wanna carry around 2 or 3 kindles instead of 1 iPad.
 
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