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I don't understand the negativity to this ad. I think it's a very good ad that highlights the biggest selling points of the Kindles. The iPad definitely has it's strengths, how do you expect Amazon to market their Kindles? Believe it or not, there are a lot of people who simply don't have the extra cash to get an iPad and a Kindle FIre is a very good option. Now, I wouldn't trade our iPad for one, but I wouldn't trade my MacBook for a Dell, yet a lot of people buy them.
 
Not to mention - I think she lied to the guy to get him off the seat!

She says it is for her husband, but I didn't see a ring on her finger!

LIAR! :D:D:D:D

You didn't see the ring because you didn't want to see the ring. She is actually wearing a ring ... but I can't blame you for missing it.
 
Yeah, because hot women in skimpy bikinis always go for the guy who spends on the cheap.
 
A one trick poney with no resale value.

But if that pony costs significantly less money, does its one trick arguably better than any other animal, and everyone in the family can have their own, then that in itself presents a very high value to some people especially if all they need that pony to do is that one trick and do it exceptionally well. ;)
 
Are you saying I'm naive? Because my points were pretty clear that I don't think it's the best system. But if there's a complaint to be made - it should be for tax reform. Amazon is abiding by the laws. Just like Apple is abiding by laws. Both companies (and pretty much every company) serves their best interest.

When CEOs take $1 in salary - that's taking money out state and federal taxes. Same thing. I don't like it or agree with it - but it's no illegal.

The OP was complaining about Amazon. And that's fine. He doesn't like Amazon for doing what they are doing. And that's also fine. But Amazon isn't the only one who takes advantage of "no tax" to the consumer. They just happen to be one of the biggest etailers doing so.

Sure. We seem to arguing different points. There is a difference between working the system to pay as little in taxes as possible and an unfair competitive advantage.

For example:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/09/amazons-sales-tax-indiana_n_1195406.html
 
True. I have to bet more people read in bed than on the beach.

This is probably true - however, you can add a light to the kindle. Nothing you can do will make it easier to read on an iPad in direct sunlight.

I'm an owner of both an iPad and a $79 Kindle. I love them both. For reading nothing beats the Kindle - light, small enough to carry around, and the e-ink is amazing. But, for everything else - the iPad wins. Hands down.
 
Whilst I'm sure Amazon and Samsung have done their homework, I can't help but think the ads backfire to a degree and end up promoting the Apple devices to a lot of people.

Yup, it's still free publicity for Apple. Sure, some will be swayed by the "3 of these for the price of one of those"; others will conclude it takes 3 of these to add up to less than one of those. The kicker is the iPad gets mentioned, and is further established as the benchmark (Amazon isn't saying "our Fire is cheaper than a Galaxy Tab").

No such thing as bad publicity.

I love my iPad but can see me getting a Fire as well if they provide the same Amazon Prime benefits in the UK.

Not because of superior hardware, software, or user experience, but only because Amazon won't supply a native iPad "Prime benefits" player. They want you to come into their walled garden and stay there.
 
Anyone notice:
Beginning of ad talks about how easy it is to read the Kindle under bright light (clearly a knock against iPad in bright light), but then switches to two Fires conveniently located in a shady area.

Slick advertising indeed.
 
.... (continued)

Man: Yeah, but I mean if you want to listen to music, or compose music...

Woman: I've got a 3rd Kindle for that.

Man: Yeah, but I mean if you want to play games, or take pictures...

Woman: I've got a 4th Kindle for that.

Man: Yeah, but I mean if you want to record video, or edit video...

Woman: I've got a 5th Kindle for that.
 
This is probably true - however, you can add a light to the kindle. Nothing you can do will make it easier to read on an iPad in direct sunlight.

I'm an owner of both an iPad and a $79 Kindle. I love them both. For reading nothing beats the Kindle - light, small enough to carry around, and the e-ink is amazing. But, for everything else - the iPad wins. Hands down.

I find the brightness of the iPad screen is more manageable in a bedroom with a sleeping parter than that of a light. I'm not dogging the kindle for it. I think the e-ink has its place. I just don't understand why so much of their marketing is based on this perceived flaw of the iPad. How much reading in sunlight are people doing anyway?
 
And you can buy twenty packs of Marlboros for the price of a single ounce of decent-quality pot. But good luck having a very good time smoking them all.

Not to encourage, or even endorse, illicit drug use (or tobacco smoking), but thats kinda the point: If you need a product to perform a task only it can do the price of inferior substitutes is pretty much irrelevant if they simply can't do it.

Which in the case of the various Kindles is this: They can't run any of the tens of thousands of high-quality Apps that an iPad can. No Garageband; no Flipboard; no RealRacing HD; etc. etc. So its fine (well, barely tolerable) for mundane tasks like web browsing, movie viewing, or book reading. But any - and all - of those tasks are more enjoyable when you've got four times the screen real estate to work with.

You can certainly make an argument for getting a Kindle in addition to an iPad: Reading on the subway or at the beach. But making the argument that the Kindle Fire is substitute for the iPad, with all that the iOS platform offers, is really stretching reality.

Why not? Why not at the same time, ask why pot is regarded as illicit, and tobacco, the more harmful option, is legal. Endorse away, I do. Skunk is another matter, but weed is far better for you than the gov sanctioned pre-packed product. That's just a simple fact.

How is this relevant? It's a very clear question of respect for the customer. The gov makes money from cigarettes so it criminalizes pot - the product they don't tax. That demonstrates a total lack of respect for ordinary people.

I'm limiting this to a simple question of choice between tobacco and weed. But some drug dealers sell addictive drugs.

Amazon are doing the very same thing. They are selling a product - the Kindle Fire, that is designed specifically to suck more money out of you, so they sell it at a price that gets you addicted.

So yes, I'm saying that Amazon is acting like a drug dealer.

By comparison, Apple is selling you weed.:eek:
 
:apple:

I have and love my :apple: iPad 2, but if somebody handed me a Fire, I would gladly welcome it into my home. :D Only reason I would pay for is if the Fire had 4G. Just saying.
 
The iPad is simply not high enough in Pixel density (yet) to make it comfortable for reading in any great amount of time.

The light pouring into your eyes is another problem however, with the iPad 3 and the higher pixel count, I imagine it will have an acceptable experience with the illusion of real print. It still will not be as good as a Kindle but it will be 1 step closer ...

My wife does A LOT of reading on our her iPad 2, and has never complained. I even asked her if she'd want the new iPad with a higher resolution, for better reading, and she said no.
 
What's wrong with focused ads? Surely you've seen tampon commercials and didn't think twice about it and just moved on? What's so different here?

OMG - Amazon is trying to sell the Kindle and Fire as a Tampon alternative?!:rolleyes:

See what I did there?
 
i'd rather have my one iPad 2 than 3 kindles. although i may pick up a basic kindle for reading outside. that's a good price. but the fire? no freakin way!! soon i'll be upgrading to the iPad 3. can't wait for that!!
 
My wife does A LOT of reading on our her iPad 2, and has never complained. I even asked her if she'd want the new iPad with a higher resolution, for better reading, and she said no.

Before I got my Kindle, I did a lot of reading on my iPad - and it definitely never bothered my eyes either. Although, I did more reading on my phone than anything else...so my eyes can pretty much take anything.

The size and the lightness of the Kindle is what makes it a better e-reader for me. I read more on my phone because I didn't want to carry my iPad around just for reading. Now with the Kindle, I have the best of both worlds.
 
Ya-but, I don't want to have three devices to juggle, maintain, charge, update, have the batteries age on, etc. One device that does it all is far better and worth a huge premium.

Besides, my iPad is better than three Kindles, hands down.

iSimplify my life.
 
Before I got my Kindle, I did a lot of reading on my iPad - and it definitely never bothered my eyes either. Although, I did more reading on my phone than anything else...so my eyes can pretty much take anything.

The size and the lightness of the Kindle is what makes it a better e-reader for me. I read more on my phone because I didn't want to carry my iPad around just for reading. Now with the Kindle, I have the best of both worlds.

I originally had (still have) a kindle. When I got my iPad - I used the Amazon app and read on my iPad and noticed I was getting severe eye strain. Nothing against the iPad - I just think some people are more sensitive to reading on it than others. I also know that I am a voracious reader. So when I sit down -it's for a few hours at a time - not short bursts.

I switched back to reading on the Kindle when I know I'll be reading for a long time. It's also much easier to bring back and forth to work.
 
This is typical shoddy marketing based on lying by omission.

Every time a Kindle fan tells me about reading in sunlight I acknowledge the weakness and advise them that the strength of a backlit screen is handy at night when you don't need to run a lamp.

Kindle Fire doesn't have Bluetooth which means it cannot connect to a plethora of external wireless accessories plus the screen is tiny.

Most of what Amazon is kicking up can be defeated easily save for the pricing argument. If your budget is small then you really don't have much of a choice.

So you think that when marketing a product, they should tell you everything. I can just see McDonald's ads, now. Sure, they'll make you fat and they're horribly bad for you, but our hamburgers are so cheap because the quality of food is subpar!

Really? You're complaining because Amazon left out things in order to make their product more appealing? Do you think Apple should admit on their iPad commercials that it can't run flash and the reflective screen can often inhibit viewing? Or that there's still no way to filter junk mail in the mail app?

Why are people so unable to look at this ad objectively?
 
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