Frame rate != touch screen response.
Edit: Read the Venturebeat article: http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/19/a...een-is-2-5-times-faster-than-android-devices/
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Frame rate != touch screen response.
Edit: Read the Venturebeat article: http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/19/a...een-is-2-5-times-faster-than-android-devices/
Since Amazon is building them so you can use them to buy/read their books and magazines (and watch their movies), of course it looks like a news stand. Tablet/App functionality is only a tertiary concern.
And for those keeping score at home, the 9 inch has higher resolution than the 27 inch iMac released yesterday, and the 7 inch has higher resolution than the 21 inch iMac.
Not that the iMac models need to double their resolution, but it could certainly go higher.
Back on topic, these look like nice devices. They don't have all the apps I'd like, but for the price they certainly are an appealing second tablet to go along with the iPad I already have.
Not that the iMac models need to double their resolution, but it could certainly go higher.
Back on topic, these look like nice devices. They don't have all the apps I'd like, but for the price they certainly are an appealing second tablet to go along with the iPad I already have.
Apple started the market and had near 100% marketshare. With competition, the marketshare MUST go down. That's how it works.
But what is implied is that if Apple's marketshare goes down that they are failing. Quite the opposite. Apple is thriving. Apple sold more iPad 4s than iPad 1s, and will sell more iPad 5s than iPad 4s, and more tablets than any singular other company. Of course, in the battle of a singular Apple company vs. dozens of competitors, I would expect the dozens of competitors sales all added up to beat the singular company. And that's barely happening.
Since the current iPad mini is now the last of the non-retina iOS devices, my guess is that that a non-retina iPad mini is not long for this world.
How are you measuring "OS animation frame rate"? On my iPad 2 all the iOS 7 animations are silky smooth, maybe something is wrong with your install and you should try wiping it and reinstalling. iOS7 does have some showier animations that are intentionally a bit long, maybe you're getting confused by that.
And still running Gingerbread, you know, that version of Android that's now 3 years old.
And if you try bringing up the fact that technically they've branched away from Android, that makes it even less appealing to Android developers. Essentially you need to make a Kindle specific version of your app - I can't say I've once ran into a person who said they're a Kindle developer (although I've run into many Android and iOS developers, and even a few Palm, Blackberry, and Windows Mobile developers, so that gives you an idea of just how few Kindle developers exist.)
And if you try bringing up the fact that technically they've branched away from Android, that makes it even less appealing to Android developers. Essentially you need to make a Kindle specific version of your app - I can't say I've once ran into a person who said they're a Kindle developer (although I've run into many Android and iOS developers, and even a few Palm, Blackberry, and Windows Mobile developers, so that gives you an idea of just how few Kindle developers exist.)
I'll throw my 2 cents in, I have a iPad1, iPad2, BB Playbook as well as a Nexus 7 and the 7 ruined forever looking at the display on my iPad2 but the 7" was just a little to narrow so I started searching for a new tablet thinking a 8" would be perfect. Anyhow when the dust settled I bought a Kindle Fire HD 8.9" for $ 229.00 which to me was a great deal with a really nice screen. As far as the OS goes it certainly works and quite honestly it bad its just different. As far as complaints about the "special offers" for $ 15.00 you can opt out but they are only on the lock screen and only about half the time maybe some of you are different from myself but I don't stare at a lock screen so I don't even notice them. I'm very happy with the product and since I'm a Amazon customer it makes picking things up that much easier. The new tablets seem to be nice but I wouldn't be a customer for $ 379.00.
Regards to all.....
Regards to all.....
I'm not referring to touch screen response. I'm a developer, I understand the difference.
I'm talking about hitting a home button and watching my icons shudder to the middle of the screen. I'm talking about double-tapping the home button and seeing a split second of UI freeze before the multi-tasking pane opens.
My girlfriend's iPhone 5 is fantastically smooth, but the iPad 2 is not. Android, on high-end devices, tops my iPad 2 by some margin.
See above, and I always do a fresh install of a major update!
I don't see how. Have you dealt with Amazon's ecosystem? I have. Most of their Apps are not updated as they are on the Google Play store. I have first hand experience of that. Also as you move up in resolution don't count on those Apps being available on your shiny new KF tablet.
Millions of people look no further then then $ tag, and will tolerate slow ****** OS.
That's why Windows is still the #1 OS in the world.
The resolution is listed wrong on the front page article.
The resolution of the 7-inch model is 1920 x 1200, not the odd 1900 x 1200 originally posted. Now that makes a bit more sense, as it can play 1080p video natively.
As The Verge notes:
The resolution of the 7-inch model is 1920 x 1200, not the odd 1900 x 1200 originally posted. Now that makes a bit more sense, as it can play 1080p video natively.
As The Verge notes:
Amazon said the Mayday service brings a live person on for help. Sounds good on paper but in reality unless you're connected to the web this isn't going to happen, plus it's not often that people are going to need such help on a tablet unless it's a Surface Pro that uses full Windows where people will need help. I vote down on Mayday. Not impressed, meh.
IMHO, there are two paths to go down.
1) Continue on the same path. Release upgrades with the same price range(+/- 10%) each time. Make the upgrades compelling enough so that Apple recognizes a 5-10% increase, year over year, in sales. This takes Apple down the same path as the computer industry in the early 90s. Shrinking market share, developers bolting, turnover and confusion at the highest levels as executives get shuffled on a regular basis in order to recapture the "magic".
2) SLIGHTLY alter the path to gain a stranglehold on the mid-upper to upper level market in smartphones and tablets. Releasing an iPhone, off-contract, for $399 offers a compelling product for folks who buy phones off-contract(non US and Japan) compared to the upper Android offerings. $299 off-contract Android compared to $399 off-contract iPhone is a much more difficult choice than a $299 android versus $549 iPhone. That is NOT a competition, that is simply giving up the fight. I've not looked at the pricing for tablets recently. But the older mini(non-retina) selling for $239, with retina starting at $329, offers a way to increase marketshare versus simple ceding it.
It doesn't have to be a race to the bottom as is the typical response by the die-hards. It could be a strangle hold onto the upper market. You can still have BIG market share, and high margins.
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like the iPad 2, which was released in March 2011? Can still buy in at the apple store today - http://store.apple.com/us/buy-ipad/ipad2
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While we know the difference between apple tablets and amazon tablets, the general consumer will not know. With the price difference of nearly 3 times, apple will lose sales.
I'm not sure what they are going to do to convince the general public to pay that much more for an apple tablet. Especially since amazon is no slouch in the advertising department either.
At least the galaxy and iphone are in the same price range.
I'm not sure what they are going to do to convince the general public to pay that much more for an apple tablet. Especially since amazon is no slouch in the advertising department either.
At least the galaxy and iphone are in the same price range.
I would love to see Apple release a new updated Mini that had faster processor, better graphics, etc. Keep the price where it is now ($329). And then also keep the current spec Mini and reduce the price to $199-249.
I would honestly replace my iPad 2 with a higher spec Mini and then buy my 3 year old the lower spec Mini.
I would honestly replace my iPad 2 with a higher spec Mini and then buy my 3 year old the lower spec Mini.
I think these devices look great. I might pick one up for the kids as it allows you to download prime stuff now for offline use.
Amazon is really improving their content and their tablets are nice, not great, but nice.
I might even try out the LTE one and see how it does. One thing I liked on last year's models were the speakers, the stereo speakers were great.
Amazon is really improving their content and their tablets are nice, not great, but nice.
I might even try out the LTE one and see how it does. One thing I liked on last year's models were the speakers, the stereo speakers were great.
FUD, Bunk and BS !
All the 2nd gen Kindle Fire's run Ice Cream Sandwich. The 3rd gen are running Jelly Bean.
Seems to me.....
the old saying "the more, the merrier" applies here. More options, with quality, make the tablet market a better place to buy. Brands are developing products with different sets of features to compete, different price points and so on....I like Amazon as store, e-book provider and even the Kindle (a little bit.........). But still I think Apple and MS offers are better suited to achieve integration with the installed computer based. Minimalistic argument here is they have their siblings OS and computers right now....
And wherever you stand in the legal battle Apple and the DOJ are engaged about e-books issue, you have to note the shady nature of Amazon regarding another company risking their dominance of that particular market, IMHO.....
the old saying "the more, the merrier" applies here. More options, with quality, make the tablet market a better place to buy. Brands are developing products with different sets of features to compete, different price points and so on....I like Amazon as store, e-book provider and even the Kindle (a little bit.....
....). But still I think Apple and MS offers are better suited to achieve integration with the installed computer based. Minimalistic argument here is they have their siblings OS and computers right now....And wherever you stand in the legal battle Apple and the DOJ are engaged about e-books issue, you have to note the shady nature of Amazon regarding another company risking their dominance of that particular market, IMHO.....
Should be interesting to see what Apple's iPad keynote focuses on. Maybe they have redesigned iWork apps to show off. Since Amazon and Google are willing to subsidize hardware Apple needs to focus on ecosystem more than ever. Though I think these announcements hurt Microsoft more than anyone. They're just too late to the party.
Anyone care to take a guess at the price of a "retina" 27 inch IPS display iMac?
Depends on the resolution. 4k or double the current resolution would be prohibitive, but arguably they wouldn't have to go that high to go "retina".
At the iMac prices they certainly should be able to afford resolution higher than 7 and 9 inch tablets.
No "shudder" or pauses on my iPad 2, sounds like something may be wrong with yours. Have you compared on another iPad 2?
Microsoft is extremely late and to be honest, when I used their tablet it just doesn't feel right.
Amazon's on the other hand was perfect for what they offer. It is a good OS for their system, just as Apple's is as well.