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50 bucks for 250mb a month ain't half bad. A person like me barely uses my iPad anywhere without wifi anyway.
 
Dude, what is your fascination with porn? You've referenced it in multiple posts. get out from your mom's basement every once in a while and experience life please.

I don't know why you won't accept that 250 MB is not for most, every, the average, a good number or many users. 250 MB is good for someone that checks email a few times a day and that's it. Try living in reality.

250 MB is roughly 8 MB a day. 8! I get emails that are over 8MB. So you're saying that "most" users should be happy with reading 1 email a day? Wow!

10 people in my office, most have smartphones of some kind. I use the most data in a month and that is around 400mb. Most barely break 150mb. And we have people that travel a lot (30-70% of the year). We all use wi-fi in the office and most of us have it at home (and hotels have greatly improved their wi-fi capabilities). I personally do not know anyone that uses more than 1gb a month in data usage.
 
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This just goes to show, how many better these tablets are, while Apple is cruising along nicely with an ipad mini with a low resolution.


ditto... with the iphone 5 (when released) too.


Apple needs to wake up... Design is one thing, but display is another......

I would have waited and gone for the Kindle fire HD, if Apple never came out with an iPad 3
 
The Fire and the Nook

My wife has the Nook Color and my daughter has the last generation of the Fire. (I have iPad 2nd gen.)

I was not impressed with the Fire at all. For a few bucks more the Nook blew it away IMO. So I'll be interested to see how the new generation Fire works out.
 
These look to be competitive offerings by Amazon. I'm pretty happy with my 3rd Gen iPad and have lots of money in apps, so I doubt I would switch unless there's something compelling that wasn't disclosed. That said, unless the UI is crap, this should be a decent entry level tablet. I'm glad to see someone putting serious pressure on Apple from both a price and feature standpoint.

Here's the thing, there's enough room in the tablet market for both Amazon and Apple, just like there's enough room in the car market for Toyota and BMW.

I personally want the Apple, but one of my friends bought his 14 year old daughter a Kindle fire and guess what? She loved it, it was perfect for what she did and her dad didn't have to spend $500.
 
let's just be clear that apple does NOT have to compete on price with amazon. it still lacks so much of apple's ecosystem (productivity). yes for a consumption device this is amazing, and very well priced, but an ipad mini I honestly don't expect it to go for less the $299. I expect to see it actually @ $349. Remember which one has millions of apps. Which one is currently being used in schools, governments, fortune 500 companies, airlines, hospitals, etc... That is because of productivity apps, not consumption. Yes amazon is creeping closer, yes it would be mind boggling for amazon to NOT open up their own app store eventually (edit: for clarification I mean ecosystem w/ special api and all), but what we have today is what we have today. But again, to think apple needs to compete w/ amazons currently offering, I don't think so, but I do think it would be wise of apple to plan accordingly, respond, and lock up the market while they have the opportunity.
 
It all depends on the price of the RT tablet. If MSFT can come up with a $199-300 tablet, Google will have a lot of problems. Apple won't have many problems, because the fanbase is so dedicated, they buy most things no matter the price. I don't have that much money, unfortunately.

The problem is not so much that googles fanbase isnt dedicated, but that it appears relatively small. So small, that in comparison with the customer base of MSFT it is completely dwarfed. As for RT, i doubt well see devices at those price points anytime soon. MSFT is gunning for dominance in the mid-tier, not the race to the bottom.

(That said, MSFT is happy as long as they get their license money, of course, but getting it right - i.e., being a viable option to the ipad - is imperative to getting the foot into the market at all. MSFT will not, and can not, afford to have RT become the Netbook of tablets. Not until the foot is all the way into the kitchen, that is.)
 
I dunno. With the Nexus 7 priced at $199, with full android, and timely android updates because it's a Nexus device, the Kindle Fire with its limited android seems like a tough sell. Is there something I am missing?
 
I'll be honest. As an Apple shareholder, the one company that I keep my eye on constantly is Amazon. To me Amazon is the single biggest threat to Apple's growth rate. The iPad mini and iOS 6 can't come soon enough.

As a shareholder i would be far more worried about MSFT. While Amazon certainly limits Apples ability to diverge and expand into new (less profitable) markets, MSFT have a shot at pushing them back to into the corner they spent most of their days in. Amazon will never (never say never) make Apple become the little brother of computing the way MSFT could (and did).
 
wow, just wow. 1920x1200; and apple is going to release the ipad mini with 1024x768???

LOL. Sad.:apple:


We still do not know if the Ipad Mini will not be retina. I could be with a crazy resolution. 1024X768 is weak sauce!

Apple can also hit these Amazon price points and still make money. People really want a Ipad mini, if it is close to that an Ipad 3 is but smaller.
 
Every time i use an iPad i feel awkward. Too bad it doesn't live up to its good looks. Hopefully the mini can turn things around. Otherwise im abandoning Apple for good (read: at least a couple of years). MSFT seems to be running a tight show nowadays.

I won't disagree with you but can you explain what you mean by "awkward".
It's shaped like a book, you hold it portrait or landscape, tap a few icons and voila!;)
 
Dude, what is your fascination with porn? You've referenced it in multiple posts. get out from your mom's basement every once in a while and experience life please.

I don't know why you won't accept that 250 MB is not for most, every, the average, a good number or many users. 250 MB is good for someone that checks email a few times a day and that's it. Try living in reality.

250 MB is roughly 8 MB a day. 8! I get emails that are over 8MB. So you're saying that "most" users should be happy with reading 1 email a day? Wow!

1) I dont have a fascination with porn. It was simply the only thing i could imagine someone "blasting through 250 MB in 1-2 days" streaming. As far as i know, you have yet to offer an alternative explanation.

2) I never stated 250 MB was good for most. I questioned your statement that MOST "blast through 250 MB in 1-2 days". Once more, stop revising history and moving goal posts... or is that a fascination of yours?
 
Can this kindle fire control my itunes music collection through airplay wirelessly to my home stereo? Like the apple remote app.
 
Any 16:9 tablet, whatever it is, looks stupid to me. I'm not gonna sacrifice valuable surface area just to play a freaking movie. Tablet design is all about awesomely designed apps and intuitiveness, not about watching movie.

They just don't get it.

The iPad still rules.:apple:
 
It's 263 PPI for the iPad 3 vs 254 PPI for the Kindle Fire HD 8.9.

That's pretty damn close, probably in the realm of "you can't tell the difference" close.

Sure i can tell the difference. One has an Apple logo, the other doesn't. Duh! Apple, zomg!
 
No mention in the article that both of the new kindles include ads like the cheapest e-ink kindles? Lock screen and corner of the home screen. And it looks like getting them without it isn't an option.

No question their prices are very competitive, the ads let them subsidize it a bit but I wonder for how many people will that be a deal breaker.
 
1) I dont have a fascination with porn. It was simply the only thing i could imagine someone "blasting through 250 MB in 1-2 days" streaming. As far as i know, you have yet to offer an alternative explanation.

2) I never stated 250 MB was good for most. I questioned your statement that MOST "blast through 250 MB in 1-2 days". Once more, stop revising history and moving goal posts... or is that a fascination of yours?

Have you heard of Netflix or Hulu or Amazon Video on Demand?
 
I have a thought why Amazon could deliver products at this remarkable price is:
Wall Street regards Amazon as a retailer company. No matter how thin the profit margin is, the analysts think it is fine if the total revenue keep growth.
In mobile device market, IMO this is quite unfair to other hardware manufacture. However this is how the system works now..
 
Any 16:9 tablet, whatever it is, looks stupid to me. I'm not gonna sacrifice valuable surface area just to play a freaking movie. Tablet design is all about awesomely designed apps and intuitiveness, not about watching movie.

They just don't get it.

The iPad still rules.:apple:

I agree on the screen aspect (especially for reading) but unfortunately, many people only use the tablets for movie watching, email and surfing.
 
10 people in my office, most have smartphones of some kind. I use the most data in a month and that is around 400mb. Most barely break 150mb. And we have people that travel a lot (30-70% of the year). We all use wi-fi in the office and most of us have it at home (and hotels have greatly improved their wi-fi capabilities). I personally do not know anyone that uses more than 1gb a month in data usage.

I would actually be surprised if i did either. And i live in a country with a net maturity level that is far beyond average. Early adopters too. So yeah. The only time i tap into my quota is while travelling (using my phone as hotspot), and nowadays most means of transportation have wifi anyway. Heck, even our local buses do.
 
Everyone seems to forget that the first fire sold 4 million units in 4th q 2011 and then then dropped to 400k in 1st q 2012. All amazon has is wow for a moment and then customers get these in hand and realize the iPad is in a league of its own. Apples announcements in the coming weeks will trump amazon ten fold.
 
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