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I have replaced cable / settop box for 99.5% of my TV and movie watching experience

Only reason I still have cable at all is because I watch NHL hockey.

I would still have cable if I didn't find the solution to NHL hockey.

NHL Center Ice is available on the Apple TV. I would use that, but you can only watch out-of-market teams, not your home team.

So, NHL forces me to use 'other' web sites, and I use Airplay to watch them on my tv. Plus, we are close enough to the Canadian border that we get Canadian channels by antenna, so we get plenty to watch on regular tv as well.

if Apple wants people to take their AppleTV seriously (for those outside the iTunes ecosystem), they need to open up the platform and allow 3rd party Apps, giving access to that content, without requiring to go through Apple first.

Ummmm... Amazon is the SAME WAY. Amazon only allows approved 3rd party apps/games.
 
figures

Aww, dang Apple, did you sit on your ass too long with the AppleTV? Methinks you did.
 
I have no interest in this whatsoever. Apple TV is already connected to the world's biggest entertainment store with all the movies, tv shows and entertainment you could ever wish to consume.



I bet the Amazon box will have noisy fans and a terrible user interface. It's DOA.


Noisy fans? Bwahahahhaha.

Don't make me laugh. This is TV set up box not an energy hogging game console like Xbox or the like.
 
Same here. Roku comes close, but their anomalous refusal to handle divx/avi files is a non-starter. Got a WDTV recently to see if it could replace my flaky Boxee Box -- it can't. SMB and AFP are a joke, and Plex doesn't do the job: it only sees half of my files, and there's no already-watched flag.



Those ATV 2's go for surprising bucks on the used market. Are you running OpenElec on your RPi? I've been wondering if that hardware were up to the task and have been thinking of an Intel NUC.

You need to get mkvmerge GUI. Takes pretty much any video file and makes it an mkv which plex sees just fine. Also sometimes plex won't see files due to the file name and not necessarily the file type. Mkv merge takes no longer than a min or two to convert anything I've thrown at it. It is awesome.
 
If it has Plex, I'm interested. Pandora is a plus.

Currently using Plex on iPad with my Apple TV using Airplay. It's doable but having the Plex client run on my big screen is much better.

Have you tried using PlexConnect with your Apple TV? I find it great even if it is a little bit of work to setup now.
 
i can't possibly be the only one who has been waiting for a streaming box with a fast processor and graphics. i have a WDTV Live and i love the ability to play media off a network (when i'm able to connect at least), or by attaching a usb drive. it has been one of the very few boxes that can play ALL video formats, whether its MKV, MP4, MOV, whatever. but i use it mostly for Netflix, and the interface is SO SLOW! when you are used to using an iPhone or a quad core Mac, it feels like navigating through molasses when using the WDTV Live. so if the seemingly powerful internals of this new Amazon box lets me scroll through lists in Netflix at a pace that feels as fluid as my other devices, AND lets me utilize the never used video streaming service i get with my Prime membership, I'm all in.

I'm in the same boat. . . The Boxee Box was fantastic for the fact it can actually handle 1080, but it is rather sluggish lately and has problems connecting. I was really hoping Samsung would do SOMETHING with that acquisition!
 
I can see how Roku would be better for you then.

But isn't iTunes rental > or equal to Amazon's rental library anyway? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought pretty much every movie is available on both.

Does iTunes have a subscription plan to watch a catalog of movies at no additional cost?
 
I find that creepy too, which is why I don't let iTunes send any metadata about my library to them, nor do I use iTunes Match.

If you rent a movie from iTunes, Apple has that info. Just like Amazon. If you watch Netflix, Netflix has that info.

Not sure why you're suggesting Amazon is any "worse" than what already exists.
 
Ok. It will be interesting what the outcome is. On the flip side - the lawsuit indicated 3rd party resellers - so Amazon itself doesn't increase prices of its products so it can include free shipping... And that's pretty significant.

Not sure about that. There's even a warning that an item is available for Prime but it has a higher price. And usually the item ships from Amazon for Prime. I just do some quick math on the various options and throw in the ship time aspect. It usually works out to getting Prime even if the price is a couple bucks more. Not sure if I should be angry about that since there have always been different prices from different vendors.
 
HA! Oh man....sorry, but I had to laugh. I'm actually very lucky - my wife isn't a big spender. Which on one hand is good, and on the other makes it difficult for me to talk her into ANY of my spending.

She also can't look at the bank account without going into cardiac arrest.....money stresses her out. So I take care of everything - and if that means I sneak the occasional golf shoe purchase in there, so be it ;)

......and then I tell her anyways because if she found out I bought something without letting her know, she'd castrate me! :eek::p

Apologies to all for going off topic. Consider yourself lucky. My wife is borderline psychotic about finances. She works at one of the Big Banks and volunteers for a credit counseling non-profit. She says I have impulse control with tech. I disagree. I plotted for 3 months to get that Fragbox.:cool: Okay, she may be partially right. I got a buddy to buy the Fire TV for me in exchange for helping him re-build his back deck. I'll just hide the Fire TV in the garage for a couple of weeks. Nothing can go wrong with that plan... right?:eek:
 
Big brother

I'm surprised no one is commenting on this:

"A new ASAP (Advanced Streaming and Prediction) feature learns what movies and shows you enjoy and gets them ready for you to watch. The more you use the Fire TV, the better it gets at predicting your media choices. "

Who is getting the information that I happen to like gory Japanese horror movies and stoner comedies?? :eek:

Also, does the Fire have 8 gigs of flash memory cache?
 
Not sure about that. There's even a warning that an item is available for Prime but it has a higher price. And usually the item ships from Amazon for Prime. I just do some quick math on the various options and throw in the ship time aspect. It usually works out to getting Prime even if the price is a couple bucks more. Not sure if I should be angry about that since there have always been different prices from different vendors.

But is Amazon shipping on behalf of the 3rd party? Or is it Amazon SELLING the item?
 
Apologies to all for going off topic. Consider yourself lucky. My wife is borderline psychotic about finances. She works at one of the Big Banks and volunteers for a credit counseling non-profit. She says I have impulse control with tech. I disagree. I plotted for 3 months to get that Fragbox.:cool: Okay, she may be partially right. I got a buddy to buy the Fire TV for me in exchange for helping him re-build his back deck. I'll just hide the Fire TV in the garage for a couple of weeks. Nothing can go wrong with that plan... right?:eek:

I heard that you WON the new Amazon Fire TV on a website raffle that reviewed it day one and gave a few away. ;):cool:
 
But is Amazon shipping on behalf of the 3rd party? Or is it Amazon SELLING the item?

It was Amazon selling the item. For example, I just bought a toy for my grand nephew and chose the Prime, sold by Amazon. The listing has this note:

"Note: This item may be available at a lower price from other sellers that are not eligible for Amazon Prime."

I paid $12.06 and I could have paid $9.99 + free standard shipping from another seller that didn't offer Prime (there are also two other vendors selling for a little less than $12). I didn't want to wait the extra days. I suppose I could argue that since I pay for Prime, Amazon should sell it for $9.99 and give me Prime shipping but Prime has always been only on certain items, not EVERY item Amazon sells. It's a tough call. Don't know whether the price is higher to make up for Prime shipping or if it would be higher no matter what and the other vendor is just price cutting.
 
Amazon totally beat Apple to the punch on this one. This is exactly what I have been waiting for the Apple TV to become.

If I wasn't so thoroughly invested in the Apple ecosystem, I'd definitely choose this over the current-gen ATV. Apple really needs to step up, fast.

can Amazon's new device play itunes content? nope...so how come it doesnt get dinged the way everybody cried about ATV not playing Prime content?

this basically looks just like a ATV but for Prime, and i cant beam my normal idevice stuff to it either.
 
I would still have cable if I didn't find the solution to NHL hockey.

NHL Center Ice is available on the Apple TV. I would use that, but you can only watch out-of-market teams, not your home team.

So, NHL forces me to use 'other' web sites, and I use Airplay to watch them on my tv. Plus, we are close enough to the Canadian border that we get Canadian channels by antenna, so we get plenty to watch on regular tv as well.

similar. As a Toronto Maple Leafs... sucker...

there is no way for me to watch Leaf games (except Saturday) without having a cable package.

Roger's and Bell, are our two biggest and really ONLY supplier of Television. They are the owners of the leafs. They own the entirety of the distribution, from the ice surface, to the very production, and the cable boxes at the end.

Roger's ONLY allows you to watch the games on a cable subscription. YOU MUST be a cable subscriber or you cannot watch any Leaf games broadcasted on their network (hint, they have the exclusive rights starting next year for all Canadian NHL content).

In fact, they have even gone so far as to blacking out their channels online. So while Rogers Sportsnet is available both via Cable, and their online streaming service, Leaf games are blacked out on the online service, even as a paying subscriber to the cable package.

then, when you add in the NHL's own regional blackouts for NHL centre Ice, blocking me from watching Leaf games online via that service, I have absolutely no choice but to either watch the games via "Other" sites like you, or, on Roger's cable subscription.

and apparently the CRTC and Canadian Government thinks there is nothing illegal, nor wrong with this sort of business practices.

It bothers me, Because of this ONE bit of programming i watch, I cannot ditch my cable subscription.

I keep telling myself I shouldn't be a leaf fan... but that hasn't gotten through my skull yet:p
 
It was Amazon selling the item. For example, I just bought a toy for my grand nephew and chose the Prime, sold by Amazon. The listing has this note:

"Note: This item may be available at a lower price from other sellers that are not eligible for Amazon Prime."

I paid $12.06 and I could have paid $9.99 + free standard shipping from another seller that didn't offer Prime (there are also two other vendors selling for a little less than $12). I didn't want to wait the extra days. I suppose I could argue that since I pay for Prime, Amazon should sell it for $9.99 and give me Prime shipping but Prime has always been only on certain items, not EVERY item Amazon sells. It's a tough call. Don't know whether the price is higher to make up for Prime shipping or if it would be higher no matter what and the other vendor is just price cutting.

But that's not necessarily gouging prime members. And isn't in line with what the linked articles said was of issue unless I misunderstood. Last I checked other vendors set their own price and while it may be cheaper, often their shipping costs are high making buying from amazon the better option anyway. At least in my experience.
 
I bet the Amazon box will have noisy fans and a terrible user interface. It's DOA.

Really? I read the article and researched it, I don't see any mention of a noisy fan, and the UI is actually very clean.

You know what has a terrible user interface? Apple TV. It's a joke
 
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