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I guess this better be tomorrow morning's announcement lol. Apple's not going to like this.

Looks almost exactly like I thought it would, bit taller than an Apple TV, aluminum, more Studio like, no surprises except maybe the top RAM
I guess it will be the announcement for tomorrow now...
 
Why? M1 Pro was 8p2e. M2 Pro 8p4e. M3 Pro 6p6e. This is a step up.

M1 Max was 8p2e, M2 Max 8p4e, M3 Max 12p4e.
I very much doubt the M4 Pro will be 14 cores as standard, I’d say 12 with the option of 14. 6P6E with the upgrade to net you another 2P. It would be nice though…
 
do you need it for AI modeling or what?
I do physics simulations and experiment data analysis. Bigger RAM, larger simulation grid, also will hold more data in RAM rather than load/dump to disk. Currently, I need to do multiple hacks to reduce the experiment data dimensions to be stored in RAM and processed, or otherwise I'll blow up swap and kill SSD lifespan in a month.
 
Remember when everyone was praising the M2 Mac Mini because it was the same design. There was this huge uproar about "Don't change the Mac Mini design, that size is now standard for server racks".
Yeah, ok.
 
And of course the upgrade price will be absurd.

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this is such an Achilles heel of M-series Macs it's not even funny at this point—iMacs getting upgraded to 16GB base RAM in 2024 is like…okay dope you did the bare minimum…and we still just want to be able to be able to ADD ON to this **** (both storage and RAM) but Apple has to make absurd profit margins somehow. you would think as a $3t company they would let go of that philosophy at this point. they make enough off their damn iPhones, but, responsibility so shareholders I guess…or whatever tf. -_-
 
Will any of the new mini's run 3 x Apple (thunderbolt) displays?

I've been holding out for a new Apple Studio but seeing that won't be until some time next year the new mini is an option. CPU power not a major concern but i need to run a 27 Apple Studio Display and 2 Apple Thunderbolt displays.
 
I suppose when you put it in that context, it makes sense. I was pretty disappointed by M3 Pro going down on the performance cores, so I see 8p on the M4 Pro being on par with my current M2 Pro. Have to see what the benchmarks really say, and I'll probably get one for home and run my own benchmarks.

I do a lot of CPU-intensive tasks for work and am trying to figure out if I can justify moving from Intel to the  silicon environment, and in some recent benchmarks discovered that my code runs faster on my M2 Pro when it's limited to 8 threads (as in, just the performance cores). As in, it runs slower when it includes the efficiency cores in computations. Which is really weird. So, my grand plan of asking work to buy me 2 M4 Pro minis and an M4 Ultra next summer is likely going to fall flat just based on performance if the M4 Pro just has 8 performance cores.

We'll see what the M4 Max has later this week. My last laptop from work is from 2019, so maybe I can get a new laptop, an ultra next summer, and have them upgrade the Intel CPUs on the custom computers at work and call it a day.
That isn't surprising. E-cores are slower. Something in your code is being made to wait for something on an E-core to complete, slowing everything down. You need to split your MT workload so anything on a P-core isn't waiting for anything on an E-core.
 
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That thing is so small those APUs will surely throttle.
Depends how smart they got with the cooling. It could either be rubbish, or actually work.

I was worried about my iMac 5K for a long time, but I never had any issues with it, and it is 10 years old now.
 
Hopefully there will not be any price change for the new Mac mini. Should know soon!
 
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Do you think if it a good upgrade from Mac Studio M1 MAX Based with 64GB to M4 Pro Mac mini in 32GB? I don't think I need a lot of ram as mainly use photoshop, figma and other design tool. Occasionally (like once a year) may use for video editing.
 
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