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Amazon Listing for Dual 2.7 Ghz PowerMac
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why a page 2 Rumor ???
Why would you WANT to - Tiger shows 30% increases in some areas on a G5 over 10.3!
drewm said:
Why would you WANT to - Tiger shows 30% increases in some areas on a G5 over 10.3!
BlueDjinn said:
I agree with you for the most part. Perhaps they will mention dual core plans at WWDC in June if they are not released tomorrow. However, I wouldn't plan on seeing the dual core PM's until September if that was the case. The only problem I see, is that the product cycle on the macs released tomorrow would be way too short. It doesn't fit the normal time span.
I'm curious. I, too, believe this is the lamest update since the G4 introduction fiasco UNLESS they:
a) Reduce prices 10%
b) At minimum, the top end is a dual core (though it seems more likely they all would be.)
c) Have other hardware imrovements we have not seen (and I don't expect): PCI-E, HT 2.0, DDR2 667 ram, etc.
kerryb said:I know this upgrade is not really official as in from the lips of Steve but I would say Amazon messed up releasing the info although they probably got everything else correct. I'm not worried about the top of the line 2.7 being "not fast enough" like some posters here, it is really about the price points that I find disappointing. I bought my 2002 Quicksilver single 933 for $2000, it was the middle pro model of the three offered. Three years later this new lineup has the low-end G5 at $2000? Not much incentive to upgrade for me. The mac mini may get the attention of the transitional "switchers" or newbies to the Mac platform but I still think the higher end PC switchers will have sticker shock when checking out these machines.
I couldn't agree more! I still have the 733 mhz quicksilver because I haven't been at all impressed with the pricing on powermacs.
Price points should be:
1500/2000/2500
Especially with all that slimey egg goo running down Steve's face after he promised 3 ghz.
It looks like Apple is not serious about the powermac.
I knew this would happen when Apple created a seperate iPod division...
Frobozz said:
Lame, really pathetic? Do you realize how much faster a 2.7Ghz Dual running with Dual 1.33Ghz FSB's would be compared to what your signature line has in it??? I have to laugh when people complain and say they would never buy a slow POS like a 2.7Ghz Dual and personally own a computer that is not even in the same league speed wise. I would be happy to take a 2.7 Dual over my 1.8Ghz iMac anyday!
macrobay said:
Welcome, Steve Jobs. Perhaps you have some insight? B/c otherwise I'll stick to my guns on this: LAMEST POWERMAC UPDATE since the G4 fiasco.
Frobozz said:
You are correct...it's an embarassment...the price is more of an issue than the speed.
macrobay said:
People were expecting better, they're dissapointed. But I agree, those "other specs" were rumors, not facts.
BUT:
We did see some changes in a system tool to allow room for more than two processors. This is a fact. It's normal for people to expect quad-CPUs PowerMacs. We also know IBM has dual-core PPCs (970FX or something).
We still don't know if there's other improvements (PCI-E or PCI-X, not sure which one is the "good one"). Stuff like this would make the new PowerMacs more attractive. The AGP is getting old and the competition has already dropped it (for the most part).
The 250GB is nice, but it's nothing spectacular (anyone has been able to go out and buy a 250GB drive for quite some time now). If that's the top-of-the-line PowerMac, I'd expect to see more than 250GB in it. Heck, you can BTO the current iMac G5 to 250GB. So, while 250GB is nice, it's nothing to write about. Especially for the top-of-the-line PowerMac. It should come with two of these, if you ask me (half-Terabyte storage would be good for marketing).
"Free" Tiger? Sorry, but that's included in the price of the computer. This is software, easily duplicated, on a 1$ DVD, plus printed manuals (let's put aside development costs).
As for the Dual Layer DVD-RW drives, well, it's about time. They've been available for some time now. The speed does seem impressive but I just mean the previous PowerMac/iMac should've had dual-layer drives, long ago.
In short: nice updates, but nothing amazing.
That's not all...
I'm expecting there to be more. Whether it be a new case design (anodized black gets my vote), or (hopefully) an updated keyboard and mouse - which we know they've been working on. Still don't know about the video card, either, or BT, etc.
Pardon my stupid question, but will the BM Apple Stores be open late on Friday because the Tiger Release 'Party'?
I'm expecting there to be more. Whether it be a new case design (anodized black gets my vote), or (hopefully) an updated keyboard and mouse - which we know they've been working on. Still don't know about the video card, either, or BT, etc.
Pardon my stupid question, but will the BM Apple Stores be open late on Friday because the Tiger Release 'Party'?
You know, this is the sort of update that should have happened 6 months ago. I really wish the Powermac update cycle was faster, but at the same time it makes my Rev. B feel like as good an investment as is possible these days.
Also, they should give away iPods with the Powermacs. At least then sales would increase.
Also, they should give away iPods with the Powermacs. At least then sales would increase.
Abercrombieboy said:
I think you don't understand the issue. It's not about what we need it is about price / performance compared to the windows platform. Apple is seriously slacking. They have the hype with ipod, itunes, itms, tiger etc. but for it to grow into a solid trend they need competitive hardware to support it.
Hmm, do you realize how much faster a 2.7Ghz Dual running with Dual 1.33Ghz FSB's would be compared to MY signatureAbercrombieboy said:
That's what I would call, Lame, really pathetic
Abercrombieboy said:
It'd be like a gazillion times faster. No doubt. But when I bought my DP Quicksilver it was $2,500 at the top of the line-- $500 less than today.
See, my problem isn't that I need a new Mac *now.* It's that I need a new Mac that will last me 3 or 4 years. My PC, while it runs Windows (eeech) has specs that my Mac needs. And I'm a Mac head, so my primary desktop will always be Mac. I want:
1) Dual Core. Ideally at 3.0 GHz or above.
2) HT 2.0
3) PCI-E
4) DDR2 667 Ram
5) Blu-ray (i can always dream)
And that's when I'll update. I'll put it this way-- I need something to make me jump at the new machines. The iPod was out for like 2 or 3 years and I never wanted one until the Mini came out. The second it did, I bought one. I need a big improvement over what is there now to spend my fun money on.
I love how some people are acting so personally insulted that there isn't a huge speed increase. Do you think they're holding back just to annoy you? ("Heh heh, here we are swimming in a huge tub of 3.5GHz G5 chips...I know, let's--get this--NOT USE THEM! Boy, that'll really get'em! Ha ha ha!") Where is it written that computer technology must always forge ahead at a breakneck pace? There's this little thing called "physics" that limits what you can do. Look into it. Sooner or later there won't be any more speed bumps AT ALL, unless there's a switch to a radically different technology. Quantum computers or something....
--Eric
--Eric
Mac-Xpert said:Hmm, do you realize how much faster a 2.7Ghz Dual running with Dual 1.33Ghz FSB's would be compared to MY signature
That's what I would call, Lame, really pathetic
Hey no one is forcing anyone to buy this garbage and piece of trash Apple is building, so if you don't like the POS don't buy it. If I needed a PowerMac, I would probably buy the 2.3Ghz model, but I know many people on this board would need a computer much faster then that.
Hey, that's cool for people trying to resell, like me. I sold my dual 2.0 G5 PM over the weekend for a few hundred less than I paid for it 20 months ago!!!! Talk about resale value. Macs are a great investment.csubear said:
Ok, not what most of you wanted to hear, but that's one way to look at it.
Eric5h5 said:
You seem to have missed the fact that the price apple pays for this hardware has gone down dramatically, yet they are charging a premium price for outdated specs.
That is the problem.
I hope you can understand it now.
Frobozz said:
It will happen. maybe not this time around, but it will. Remember the iMac G5? It was a HUGE step from the iMac G4. Same way with the PowerMac G5 from the G4.
Time to look for a returned, discounted model.
CDW was selling a 2X 2.0 machine with a super drive for $1499 (on a bench of returned items). Problem was that inside the box was a single 1.8 with a combo drive. Nice guys aren't they?
CDW was selling a 2X 2.0 machine with a super drive for $1499 (on a bench of returned items). Problem was that inside the box was a single 1.8 with a combo drive. Nice guys aren't they?
Abercrombieboy said:
I'm calculating pi to see if it ends. I need all the power I can get, geez.
I figure if pi ends, then there IS finite quanta values (smallest unit of anything in the universe has a discrete value), which means nothing in the universe is left to continuous distributions, which means nothing is random, which means our thoughts are predictable, which means we don't have free will.
got it?