Amazon Listing for Dual 2.7 Ghz PowerMac

[machan]

Has anyone noticed that the new Appleinsider story on Powermac shipments now places the announcement for these new machines for tomorrow (Wednesday)? We all might be repeatedly refreshing the Apple page for nothing.

When there's a Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday update, it is always up on Apple's site by 8am central time. The only time it's different is for expos, Macworlds, NABs, etc.

 

[840quadra]

Note that the dual-core POWER4 and POWER5 chips do not have VMX (aka AltiVec).

That could hit the programs that are AltiVec-aware - as well as introducing another incompatible instruction set option (POWER 64-bit w/o VMX) for the compilers and developers.

That is a good point.. I am wondering if VMX is the stumbling block that is causing IBM to be behind on production of DC for the PowerPC lineup.

 

[mandis]

I suppose you have all seen “The Pirates of the Silicon Valley”.

In the words of Bill Gates: Success is a menace. It makes smart people think they can’t lose…

May 2005: Apple introduces the dual 2.7Ghz G5, claiming it to be the fastest workstation in the world!!!

June 2005: AMD introduces the DUAL DUAL-CORE 2.8Gghz OPTERON (AT A VERY COMPETITIVE PRICE…)

September 2005: Apple introduces the all new MAC MICRO, smaller than an i-Pod and fully loaded with the AMAZING PPC G3 at 567Mhz and the MIND-BLOWING FX5200!!!!

November 2005: Apple sells it’s computer department to a Chinese company, in order to concentrate on new i-Pods and software development.

These Powermac updates just seem so wrong…

 

[ravenvii]

Eh, you people are making mountains out of molehills. The fastest Athlon processors are at 2.6 GHz aren't they? Why is 2.7 so bad? It's equivalent with the market as a general. Not behind or ahead, just equal. I'm not fainting at the awesomeness of the update or anything, but it's not horrible compared to the market. The only negative you can really throw at Apple/IBM is that the updates aren't constant enough. AMD tends to push their processors about 100 MHz at a time, while Apple/IBM just waits a while, then bumps them 200-300 MHz at a time.

And all those hoping for WWDC, have fun in your little fantasy world, Apple ain't gonna do that kind of update in TWO months.

 

[840quadra]

I suppose you have all seen “The Pirates of the Silicon Valley”.


May 2005: Apple introduces the dual 2.7Ghz G5, claiming it to be the fastest workstation in the world!!!

When and were did Apple say that?

 

[SweetFeet]

Go to amazon.com, click on electronics. See box that says "New Power Macs".

I only see that box if I click from the MacRumors.com link to Amazon. If I type in Amazon.com, that box doesn't show up.

 

[neoelectronaut]

Oh noes! It's 2.7Ghz instead of 3 Ghz! That 300mhz will bring about the end of days!

...seriously. Goddamn. It's a computer.

 

[840quadra]

Eh, you people are making mountains out of molehills. The fastest Athlon processors are at 2.6 GHz aren't they? Why is 2.7 so bad? It's equivalent with the market as a general. Not behind or ahead, just equal. I'm not fainting at the awesomeness of the update or anything, but it's not horrible compared to the market. The only negative you can really throw at Apple/IBM is that the updates aren't constant enough. AMD tends to push their processors about 100 MHz at a time, while Apple/IBM just waits a while, then bumps them 200-300 MHz at a time.

And all those hoping for WWDC, have fun in your little fantasy world, Apple ain't gonna do that kind of update in TWO months.

Awesome points.

This 3GHZ buzz word is the biggest problem. Yes I know, Apple did promise 3Ghz and didn't deliver, it will live in infamy forever, but not having 3GHZ will not be the end of the world mind you.

 

[John Rivers]

can't find it, strange no?

browsed through amazon, clicked on Electronics > Computers > Desktops > Apple > Powermacs.

Nothing new.

The phishing thing might not be all to far fetched...its definitely possible. I mean, how conveniently simple would it be for someone to make a amazon site clone with the EXACT specs previously hinted, KNOWING that it would get found, linked, and announced to the hundreds of us who follow this stuff?

 

[aussie_geek]

That 09:00 am in Calafornia is still 2 hours away!!

Nope sorry you are right!! nice waking up for mister Steve.... Amazon is offering his powermacs allready! He will be PISSED!

It seems that they have daylight savings time in effect - so the time is 1 hr in advance.

I got the time from time and date . com.

Am I right

aussie_geek

 

[ravenvii]

June 2005: AMD introduces the DUAL DUAL-CORE 2.8Gghz OPTERON (AT A VERY COMPETITIVE PRICE…)

See? That's just one small example of what I mean of fantasy world.

First, ONE of those Opteron dual-core processors cost $1,400 APIECE. Competitive? In it's market, yes, but against Apple?... Not really.

 

[Skull Leader]

Well that's certainly a bit disappointing. Strange that the range is now 2.0GHz, 2.3GHz and 2.7GHz. Why not keep the 2.5GHz?

Does anyone else here think that the 2.5GHz chips were really overclocked 2.3's?? I guess if the new 2.7GHz chips don't require radiator coolant to run then they would be 'genuinely' faster processors and that's a good thing.

Skull Leader
www.skullsquadron.com

 

[topgunn]

I only see that box if I click from the MacRumors.com link to Amazon. If I type in Amazon.com, that box doesn't show up.

They have apparently removed the "New Power Mac" banners from the site however the direct link still works. Surely Apple's doing.

 

[SweetFeet]

browsed through amazon, clicked on Electronics > Computers > Desktops > Apple > Powermacs.

Nothing new.

I would think that Apple would have shut down that part of Amazon already if it were a genuine leak.

 

[mandis]

When and were did Apple say that?

They didn't! In fact they haven't said anything about the new powermacs yet!!!

I'm just being sarcastic...

I was expecting quite a bit more from this update, as did most people.

 

[Mac-Xpert]

See? That's just one small example of what I mean of fantasy world.

First, ONE of those Opteron dual-core processors cost $1,400 APIECE. Competitive? In it's market, yes, but against Apple?... Not really.

You do realize that AMD will also release the dual core Athlon in june for a lot less.

That's the problem, not the Opteron.

 

[minimax]

browsed through amazon, clicked on Electronics > Computers > Desktops > Apple > Powermacs.

Nothing new.

The phishing thing might not be all to far fetched...its definitely possible. I mean, how conveniently simple would it be for someone to make a amazon site clone with the EXACT specs previously hinted, KNOWING that it would get found, linked, and announced to the hundreds of us who follow this stuff?

yes and your computer can catch a virus if it has unprotected sex

 

[sandau]

M9747LL/A
M9749LL/A

anyone know how to read apple's part numbers? those are the top new models...does the /A mean anything?

 

[blackcrayon]

Well that's certainly a bit disappointing. Strange that the range is now 2.0GHz, 2.3GHz and 2.7GHz. Why not keep the 2.5GHz?

Does anyone else here think that the 2.5GHz chips were really overclocked 2.3's?? I guess if the new 2.7GHz chips don't require radiator coolant to run then they would be 'genuinely' faster processors and that's a good thing.

Skull Leader
www.skullsquadron.com

Then people will argue, "Why didn't they just use the liquid cooling and get it to run at 3 ghz?"

 

[DakotaGuy]

Abercrombieboy, you use Comic Sans in your sig, you're not worthy a mac!

I guess I don't get what you are saying. The choice of a font should have nothing to do with what kind of computer I am worthy of running. The only thing that has anything to do with that is my checkbook. Sorry if it is meant to be a joke, I am just having a bad day I guess.

 

[ravenvii]

You do realize that AMD will also release the dual core Athlon in june for a lot less.

That's the problem, not the Opteron.

Yes I do realize that. However, 1) HE says Opteron. And 2) those Athlons can't work in dual configurations. So they're basically "finally" catching up with Apple's dual processors.

 

[AidenShaw]

it's not the power that's worth hyping

With all this talk of dual-core CPUs, I thought I'd add my two cents. I think Intel's dual-core solution is over-hyped at this point.

The real news with Intel's dual core offering is that it will push the price-point of dual CPU systems way down.

This will be more apparent with the next Intel dual-core desktop chip - the Pentium D. It is expected to be priced very close to single core chips.

Instead of Xeons and dual-cpu motherboards, mainstream low-priced desktops will have dual processors.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1786693,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532

According to Intel's Love, Intel will ship "millions" of dual-core parts this year, but the company anticipates that dual-core shipmets will make up 70 percent of its server processor shipments and 85 percent of its desktop and mobile shipments at the end of 2006.

That's the real significance, not whatever the facts about the first dual-core chip are.

 

[plinden]

Guys, to put this into perspective, I did a bit of research. The following is the speed increase of various processors over about the past 2 years.

G5 GHz:
2.0-2.7 (35% increase) in 22 months

Pentium-M GHz:
1.6-2.1 (31% increase) in 25 months

Pentium-4 GHz:
3.1-3.8 (23% increase) in 29 months

Athlon XP GHz:
1.8-2.4 (33% increase) in 27 months

 

[MacNoobie]

No dual core? Damn, AMD and Intel have dual core processors now. Its time Apple faces the facts. They are a software company, not a hardware company. You can't claim to be a hardware company and continue to have inferior hardware. You make great software Apple. Its time to show the world. Switch to AMD please.

I must admit that it’s looking more and more like an IBM problem with respects to R&D that’s causing apple to look bad. As far as the whole speed issue people are having with the G5's, grow up finally and take a look at the AMD cpu's they work harder then the Intel cpu's and are clocked similarly to the G5 cpu. So what if Intel has dual core cpu's I heard they don’t perform that much better then the current crop of cpu's and due to the fact that they are dual core they're actually clocked slower then their single core counterparts.

I for one am not disappointed that Apple hasn’t hit 3Ghz with the G5 so far and I'll tell you why:

1. Its an IBM thing they're essentially holding the 3Ghz back due to heat and I assume production issues with getting to 3Ghz, I know Steve promised 3Ghz by the end of the year but seriously if IBM cant produce the chips and Apple cant sell the spiffy new 3Ghz power Mac then why be pissed at Apple... ohh because Steve made a promise that he couldn’t keep? Grow up you're parents have done that **** to you since you were all kids at one point or another.

2. Falls in line with AMD cpu's, AMD's are notorious for working harder (despite being clocked slower) then their Intel counterparts and if the G5 falls in line with how the AMD's are clocked then that STILL OK!!!!!

Anyways I thought I'd add that in.

 

[amac4me]

Guys, to put this into perspective, I did a bit of research. The following is the speed increase of various processors over about the past 2 years.

G5 GHz:
2.0-2.7 (35% increase) in 22 months

Pentium-M GHz:
1.6-2.1 (31% increase) in 25 months

Pentium-4 GHz:
3.1-3.8 (23% increase) in 29 months

Athlon XP GHz:
1.8-2.4 (33% increase) in 27 months

Thanks for these stats. I can't believe how people are complaining. I own a Dual 2.5 system and I don't think many of you realize how fast it is. A 200MHz increase is a bit disappointing but you have to look at the entire system instead of just the CPU speed.

Just my view.