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Amazon Planning to Take on Apple in Smartphone Market
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I'm sure we'd find something to talk about here at MacRumors.
Keep in mind, for many years Apple had nothing but Macs and there was still a lot to talk about.
Yeah! And Google should stick to search and web mail! And Apple should stick to Macs!
Actually, this makes perfect sense to me.
My statement was that it used the same code base, but couldn't be called Android. Don't mix things up.
Here, you can read my statement again :
Just in case it's not sinking in yet that you just put your foot firmly in your mouth :
That's because :
And
I believe that Amazon would do an awesome job at designing a phone. I mean just look at the kindle fire.
I believe that Amazon would do an awesome job at designing a phone. I mean just look at the kindle fire.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but there is nothing wrong with the Fire. It's a quality tablet that is affordable.
Moar competition!!!
Did I just read
"More competition is great" platitudes coming every other post? More competition is NOT great.
How many times have you walked into interview for a potential job ..saw 50 other people sitting there for the same job and said "hey this is great I'm 1 of 50!!"
How many times have you walked into a club and saw 8 guys for every gal and said "Hooray! Look at all this competition!"
**** with the pithy platitudes. Amazon proved they are incompetent with the Fire. Who's going to trust them with a phone? I know a 13 year old that'll sell you here Fire. She told me yesterday "this this is a piece of ****"
Amazon should stay the hell out of markets they don't understand. Buying up companies and trying to acquire patents isn't going to help.
Did I just read
"More competition is great" platitudes coming every other post? More competition is NOT great.
How many times have you walked into interview for a potential job ..saw 50 other people sitting there for the same job and said "hey this is great I'm 1 of 50!!"
How many times have you walked into a club and saw 8 guys for every gal and said "Hooray! Look at all this competition!"
**** with the pithy platitudes. Amazon proved they are incompetent with the Fire. Who's going to trust them with a phone? I know a 13 year old that'll sell you here Fire. She told me yesterday "this this is a piece of ****"
Amazon should stay the hell out of markets they don't understand. Buying up companies and trying to acquire patents isn't going to help.
I like this idea. I had a WebOS phone, the software was great, it was the hardware that was crappy. I'm very disappointed how HP handled it, but AFAIK it's now free to use for Amazon. It would offer a different choice.
I doubt they'd do anything with it since they already invested in a android platform.
It does to me too. But imagine everything we wouldn't have if they'd just done that. We'd still be using Archos MP3 players, Palm phones, Internet Explorer, and Microsoft-powered tablet PCs. We'd be sharing documents by email instead of working collaboratively, we'd be manually syncing our devices, and our TVs would be independent of our content.
bad analogy is a bad analogy.
Amazon didn't prove they were incompetent at all with the Fire. Good luck spreading that fact pulled out of your hindquarters.
And you have no idea or in a position to judge what markets Amazon does or doesn't understand.
I guess Apple buying up companies and acquiring patents hasn't helped them.
Well since they have their own well established book store and music store, they could be a decent competitor.
When we talk about Apple and Amazon, we're examining things from the perspective of a consumer, and Apple and Amazon are the producers, who provide the goods and services that we ultimately use. When people are looking for a job, they are the producers since they are offering their labor to companies, who are the consumers because they buy labor through wages/salary. Thus, competition is always good for the consumer. If a firm has 50 people competing for a job, they are much more likely to find a suitable and desirable candidate than say, if there were only 3 people applying for said job.
Uh ? If I were to try and compete in the smartphone market with my own smartphone offering, then you'd have a point with your ridiculous analogy, but as a consumer, as the employer in your analogy, god am I glad to have 50 choices. That way, there's less chances of me having to compromise on what I want as there's more chance of finding a product/employee that matches my criteria as closely as possible.
Title makes me ROFLMAO. Its more like Amazon is pissed that Google is going to compete with them on tablet so Amazon is going after Google with their own Android OS.
For Amazon to compete with Apple then Amazon need to bring out their own non Android phones.
Amazon uses hardware as a vehicle for their services. I do not believe that they care which platform users use. If you have their apps and consume their content than they win. The whole Kindle ecosystem and the Fire are about the content. Amazon even views the "Kindle" app on an iPhone as a "Kindle".
With LG, Huawei, Samsung, Motorola, HTC all turning out Android phones, why wouldn't Amazon get in on the business?
I don't think they'd build one themselves, they'd just buy a model from someone else (as they did bringing the BB Playbook and turning it into the Fire) and price it dirt cheap with their own services highly integrated.
The price of phones and the tech is so competitive, soon companies will practically be giving them away and will love a contract to supply hardware to Amazon.
It's a good deal for everyone involved.
I don't think they'd build one themselves, they'd just buy a model from someone else (as they did bringing the BB Playbook and turning it into the Fire) and price it dirt cheap with their own services highly integrated.
The price of phones and the tech is so competitive, soon companies will practically be giving them away and will love a contract to supply hardware to Amazon.
It's a good deal for everyone involved.
Hey guys
Thanks for setting me straight. I'm a happy Amazon Prime member but one thing that has been pretty consistent with Amazon is their lack of design skills. They bought IMDB.com and that place has become a cluttered mess.
Amazon lacks that kind of panache needed to make waves. I can buy stuff from the Amazon store on any device. Why would I need or benefit from buying my phone through Amazon?
As for choice. It's a myth.
Thanks for setting me straight. I'm a happy Amazon Prime member but one thing that has been pretty consistent with Amazon is their lack of design skills. They bought IMDB.com and that place has become a cluttered mess.
Amazon lacks that kind of panache needed to make waves. I can buy stuff from the Amazon store on any device. Why would I need or benefit from buying my phone through Amazon?
As for choice. It's a myth.
Incorrect.
Not being able to use a trademark descriptor does not change what it is.
It is still Android.
It's using the level 10 SDK and API stack. (Gingerbread).
That makes it an Android device.
Google can only bar them from using trademarks, not the name of the open source code it was built upon.
Read the build.prop file.
OMG... it says it's Android.... Google should sue!
I did say it used the same code base, it just can't be called Android. No matter what the code base for it says. Like killjoy, might I suggest actually reading my posts ?
Some people really are obtuse it seems and just can't grasp simple concepts. Amazon will never call it Android, they will never write "Android tablet" anywhere in market material, they won't even write "runs the Android OS code base".
For all intents and purposes, it's not an Android device. It doesn't fragment Android at all. And Google can't sue them, they are the ones licensing the code base under an open source license.
Just like IceWeasel isn't Firefox, even though it uses the same source code as Firefox. It's IceWeasel. They even explain how you're not running "Firefox" :
http://www.geticeweasel.org/useragent/
I dont think you and I agree on the meaning of the word 'spinoff'.
Or you either. So you're saying that Torvalds took no guidance at all from unix? He just happened by the most amazing coincidence to use nearly all the same APIs? Nonsense.
I think it's a matter of where the market is headed. Cell phones are developing at a crazy rate and it's more and more competitive with prices falling and quality increasing.
I think they probably look at it more like, why shouldn't we be the ones making a couple bucks on the hardware side? We already have our Fire/Kindle version of Android, we can simply make the cellular features accessible. Then we have an Amazon phone.
If they didn't have a gazillion manufacturers putting out better and cheaper products by the minute, it wouldn't be so attractive.
Just my guess.
It's only a myth to people who subscribe to Barry's philosophy. Personally, I don't buy it, I like choice.
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Unfortunately for you, he's using it correctly, you're not or do not understand what Linux and Mac OS X are and their histories and components unfortunately.
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Read my later posts on the subject. Linux originally didn't have any support for POSIX. API support != spinoff.
First, what part of Unix do you refer to that OS X or Linux was spun off from ? The copyrighted AT&T codebase ? The SUS specification ? The UNIX trademark owned and controlled by the Open Group ?
There seems to be a lot about UNIX you just don't grasp to make such a simple and misguided claim.
OMG you can't be serious.
It requires apps to be loaded from... wait for it... the Amazon Appstore for Android.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=200729570
Yes... they even describe the Fire as an Android device in the developer comments.
A little note to Kindle Fire users as well.
In other words, developers can make an app that only works on the Fire by simply requiring "ro.product.device=blaze" be present in the build.prop before the app will install.
Same crap other vendors do when they want to lock an app to their specific device.
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IIRC Linux is GNU with the Linux kernel. And GNU actually stands for GNUs Not Unix.