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I absolutely love my iPad because I both consume AND create on it. I read websites/rss, I play games, I listen to books, I do email. But I also create using iMovie, photo editing apps, video camera etc. So to me it's easily worth $600.
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(And lets be honest, how many of us really used iMovie or Garage Band as much as we thought we would?)

I like using GoodReader to markup PDF's and iThoughts HD (mind mapping software) to keep track of projects I am working on or taking notes in a graph. iMovie only gets broken out on vacation when my wife gives me the SD card from her camera to load the pics to the iPad (so a few times per year). I do some writing on the iPad, but I'd rather have a MacBook Air for that (which I don't own). Other than I like the iPad for checking movie times, and online shopping and product research through Safari or through apps like Amazon's.

I must admit that the kids are using Garage Band and are doing their online home work and various educational apps on the iPad. It is also a great reader for my purposes since I do most of my reading at night before bed (not outside in the sun).
 
Got a Kindle for Amazon deal on MBA and like it. Good for reading. Hope the Fire will have a good screen. I have tried to convince myself for iPad but its screen just too hard to read pdf docs.
 
I don't think it was designed to compete with any of those. This release will create a new market segment.

You may consider the Fire a competitor if it triggers a trend away from the iPad. People who have considered a tablet purchase, delayed their purchase because they could not afford the iPad, might buy the Fire (possibly a person like me). It is also a competitor if the Fire happens to draw away previous iPad owners who considered buying a new iPad too expensive, or have realized that the iPad is overkill for their needs.
 
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Got a Kindle for Amazon deal on MBA and like it. Good for reading. Hope the Fire will have a good screen. I have tried to convince myself for iPad but its screen just too hard to read pdf docs.

I thing i read it was an IPS screen (Fire)
 
Amazon have stated they are currently NOT going to be selling the Kindle Fire and the Touchscreen Kindle's in the UK:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42300/no-kindle-fire-touch-uk

A fact which I guess is further backed up byt the fact the front page ONLY has the new non touchscreen Kindle advertised:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/

Compared to the US website:

http://www.amazon.com/

Well I guess I shall remain positive and that they WILL eventually launch it in the UK.

EDIT: But they interviewed Russ Grandinetti on Engadget and he stated 'stay tuned'!!??? Come on Amazon, throw the UK a bone, well the Kindle Fire release date anyway?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/28/is-a-10-inch-kindle-fire-coming-amazon-says-stay-tuned/
 
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Amazon have stated they are currently NOT going to be selling the Kindle Fire and the Touchscreen Kindle's in the UK:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42300/no-kindle-fire-touch-uk

A fact which I guess is further backed up byt the fact the front page ONLY has the new non touchscreen Kindle advertised:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/

Compared to the US website:

http://www.amazon.com/

Well I guess I shall remain positive and that they WILL eventually launch it in the UK.

That will launch and TMO will get iPhone.
 
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The iPad's Niche?

The Kindle Fire, as a pure media consumption device, will cut off the iPad at the knees on the low end, and the Windows 8 tablets, as productivity devices, will cut off the iPad at the head on the high end. Why pay $500-$800 for an iPad, when you can get the same features on a $200 Kindle Fire? And why pay $500-$800 for an iPad that can't do half the things that a Windows 8 tablet will do for the same price?
 
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You may consider the Fire a competitor if it triggers a trend away from the iPad. People who have considered a tablet purchase, delayed their purchase because they could not afford the iPad, might buy the Fire (possibly a person like me). It is also a competitor if the Fire happens to draw away previous iPad owners who considered buying a new iPad too expensive, or have realized that the iPad is overkill for their needs.

I see your point. Even thought it wasn't marketed as a direct competitor, if people buy it in substantial numbers it would take sales away from the iPad. You make good points about price and overkill too. Good post.
 
I thing i read it was an IPS screen (Fire)

It is, so I don't know that it will be better for PDFs vs. the iPad.

I actually spend quite a bit of time with PDFs on the iPad, I usually keep my active material in a DropBox folder, then I open-copy-to-iBooks to have a local copy.

The extra screen real estate is good for my PDFs since I read more technical docs that generally have tables/charts/etc. I'm usually also reading them in the evening, in low light, so having a lighted display is pretty essential.

I like using GoodReader to markup PDF's ...

I realize this is off topic, but I've been thinking about GoodReader myself since I deal with quite a few PDFs of a technical nature (see above). Is the resulting marked up PDF consumable outside of GoodReader? Thanks! :)
 
The Kindle Fire, as a pure media consumption device, will cut off the iPad at the knees on the low end, and the Windows 8 tablets, as productivity devices, will cut off the iPad at the head on the high end. Why pay $500-$800 for an iPad, when you can get the same features on a $200 Kindle Fire? And why pay $500-$800 for an iPad that can't do half the things that a Windows 8 tablet will do for the same price?

winblows 8 tablet = fail
 
The Fire looks great.

If it provides a decent user experience I don't see how it won't be a big hit at $199.

7" screen isn't great but, man, $199. That's a sweet number.
 
If I were an investor, I'd prefer Company A. You know the one that rakes in the cash in RECORD amounts? Company B is apparently a charitable organization, not a business. This is about pure profit, rake in the cash, take no prisoners! :apple:

Glad your not running my business, I need all the customers I can take and then some.

I like Amazon's model, and I also like there CS- that's why this thread is more praise than not. Apparently Apple fans are also Amazon fans.
 
Wow. I'm surprised this has generated more posts than yesterday's media event announcement. Little did I know so many people on here were this fascinated (or maybe concerned?) with the competition.

And, no, I'm not 'hating' on the new Kindle Fire. Hell, I didn't even keep the iPad I bought earlier this year (after an EXHAUSTIVE hunt all around town, during launch week) simply because a tablet doesn't quite fit my needs. I think my iPhone + MBA are a better match for me.
 
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iPad = For people who want to consume and create content
Fire = For people who want only to consume content
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iPad is also for people who just want to consume content.
it's got the nice big screen and the hardware to drive it.

(Don't get me wrong, I think the Fire is going to be great for a lot of people. But even for stuff the Fire is good at, the iPad is a better. It's $199 for a good content consumption device and $499 for a great one. For $300 difference, good is good enough for a lot of people. Apple is going to cede a lot of sales to this if they don't drop the entry-level price of the iPad to $399, I think.)
 
I just bought 4 Kindle Fire's. This is going to be a hot item and I predict sellouts.
 
The Windows 8 tablets will be the next generation of more powerful tablets than are currently available. They will be one step closer to a laptop replacement.

1 more year too late. MSFT should have been arriving at the tablet party March 2010.
 
Spot on. For years sales of PC's and especially laptops have depended on forcing consumers to "overbuy" to meet their requirements. The iPad has been a huge correction to that in the form of a device that meets millions of consumers' requirements quite adequately.

And if you read surveys of what people actually use their slabs for after having them for a while, the Fire makes even more sense than an iPad for the majority of people.
 
If we hear in 2 weeks that the Kindle Fire has 7 million pre-orders then Apple has something to worry about.
 
iPad is also for people who just want to consume content.
it's got the nice big screen and the hardware to drive it.

(Don't get me wrong, I think the Fire is going to be great for a lot of people. But even for stuff the Fire is good at, the iPad is a better. It's $199 for a good content consumption device and $499 for a great one. For $300 difference, good is good enough for a lot of people. Apple is going to cede a lot of sales to this if they don't drop the entry-level price of the iPad to $399, I think.)

I don't have a link backing me up, but I'm sure that 90% of the people who use the iPad use it as a media consumption device and not a creation device. Why would those people pay an extra $300 for features they are not going to use?
 
I don't have a link backing me up, but I'm sure that 90% of the people who use the iPad use it as a media consumption device and not a creation device. Why would those people pay an extra $300 for features they are not going to use?

That's why 1 Infinite Loop are scared *****less about this device. It's designed to cut off Apple at the knees.
 
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