I explained that a few posts up. And no, Apple hasnt trumped that interface with iOS. iOS is, by large, still stuck on the evolutionary path of the paradigms of old. It can, perhaps, be seen as a bridge, but beyond that, no. That said, the interface obviously has appeal, but its not making a clean break from the past; iOS is evolutionary, rather than revolutionary.
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I explained that a few posts up. And no, Apple hasnt trumped that interface with iOS. iOS is, by large, still stuck on the evolutionary path of the paradigms of old. It can, perhaps, be seen as a bridge, but beyond that, no. That said, the interface obviously has appeal, but its not making a clean break from the past; iOS is evolutionary, rather than revolutionary.
Maybe iOS is just a bridge to the future interface, but Metro UI is a failure on desktop. Only about 50% of those who tried the Windows 8 Developer Preview liked the UI on desktop.
About 100% of people who draw conclusions from negative comments on developer preview software should be ignored. Joke aside, it could've been 100% (and meant just as little). Come launch, we'll know. Before then, expecting a flaw-less solution is just an indication of a flawed mind.
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guess i might expand some on this, or rather, two of the main concerns raised: navigating metro without touch, and new start conflicting with expected behavior of start menu of old.
First, i suspect that touch-mouses (think: magic mouse) will be pushed hard come launch. Until 2014, W8 will mainly be sold with new devices (it will take enterprises roughly 18 months to migrate). New devices are likely to have these mouses. This takes care of the scrolling issue that some users have reported. For obvious reasons, track-pads on laptops will perform the same function (i would assume that they already do, by default). If true, this problem will not be much of a problem at all.
Second, while the conflict in behavior is a quite serious issue - as shown by the wide-spread criticism, this is a somewhat easy fix. For example, one could make the start menu open on hover, or (perhaps better*) hold. After all, one can expect that the average user really cares **** about the start menu, and that it, in fact, is a bitch to navigate for most (most, i would assume, use it to locate some program in a nested file structure). Those who do care, and want to use it in desktop-mode, are savvy enough to learn the new behavior in a flash. Further, I would assume that the most used feature in the start-menu nowadays is Windows equivalent of "spotlight". From what i have gathered this is integrated well into the start experience.
So yeah. There are issues to be solved, but these issues have fairly straight forward, accessible, solutions. Thus, once more, wait for launch. Then, and only then, can we accurately judge whether or not Metro will work on desktops or not. I, for one, see no real issue here. I may not be a user who necessarily would prefer it, but overall i think its a good idea.
Oh, and a third point, aka "the enterprise issue". If testing shows that enterprises really wants this feature out, they will surely have the option to disable it. Think people are exaggerating though. Its not like people spend hours in their start menu, and theres no reason to believe that Metro will make them spend more time either. If its about enterprises not wanting users to have "games n ****" in their work environment, well... MSFT have nice solutions for that as is.
* better because it would not interfere with average joe who i suspect would like to get rid of it anyway.
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thank you, sir.
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Your welcome.
Being an owner a a couple of message boards, I gotta say its refreshing to see intellectual talk from guys who just seem to get it.
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iPod Touch 3G a KF killer?
So how many people will cancel their KF pre-orders when (ok, ok, IF) Apple upgrades the iPod touch A5 processor, 5MP camera, to screen size of 4.2' and (drum roll) 3G?!
So how many people will cancel their KF pre-orders when (ok, ok, IF) Apple upgrades the iPod touch A5 processor, 5MP camera, to screen size of 4.2' and (drum roll) 3G?!
Well, its sort of my job "to get it", being that my research is focused on platforms, platform economics and platform-based innovation. But yeah, its kind of sad in a way that so many discussions derail into fanfests, when the topics themselves could provide for intellectual, constructive, knowledge co-creation.
Some how, people seem to think that arguments, not knowledge, should be won. If they didnt, they would realize that every argument lost, is knowledge won :- )
Heres my take:
With that setup, i would still need to carry a phone. So, i'd have a phone - a dumb one, since a smart one would introduce redundancy* and a 4.2" inch "non-phone iphone".
Now, assuming that i actually have, or simply want, to have a smart phone (actually, i dont, but thats a different story). Then, on top, i have a 7" KF.
I would, without a doubt, choose the latter setup. The 7" allows me to consume content without being as limited as with a 3-4" smart phone, while still being extremely portable. Further, when needed, i could use tethering to connect my KF with 3G. Since my phone already has a camera, one that will be way more natural to use, and that i will always have my phone with me, having one on the KF gives me no added value.
Second, as the phone will still be my main device for many things regardless (calls, texting etc.) i would prefer it to have as wide of a set of functionality as possible.
...and so forth.
* unless it was very small like the xperia mini. but then too, i would probably prefer the KF as a complement anyway.
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Only if you plan on having a lot of very long conversations while not on WiFi. I use Skype on my iPad 3G all the time and hardly come anywhere near burning through my cap.
Nicely summed up.
That is what makes OSX great - the stability and power of a *NIX system.
How is this for reality?
Apple iDevices Make More Money Than All of Microsoft’s Products Put Together
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/10/01/idevices-make-more-money-microsoft/
“The Mac business generates more Revenue than Windows" (The truth hurts!)
"iOS powered devices generate more revenue than all of Microsoft’s products put together" (Ouch!!)
"Apple’s revenues grew 413% since Q2 2007 while Microsoft’s grew 26%" (Ouch again!!!)
"The release of Windows 7 had a marked effect on revenues in the launch quarter but the sales did not seem to grow above the previous version’s run rate ($4.2b/quarter vs. $4.7b/q on average).” (No surprise there!)
Good luck Kindle Fire. You will need a lot of it!
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So Mac Business (hardware) makes more than Windows (software). Genius!
How any of the above relates to the Kindle fire is mystery since Kindle is made by Amazon and not Microsoft. Again - nice straw man arguments
Saturday Night Live just made a funny joke about the Kindle Fire on Weekend Update:
Seth Meyers said:
i have skype. as long as phone carriers control the networks it is not a reliable solution. i think they already banned* voip where i am at, if not, it wont be long.
* banned as in saying its not allowed.
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well, such purchases accounts for what? 50 million devices in the state alone? ;- )
Well, for 3G, retinal display, a proven operating system (iOS) and I assume because most people on this boards are also to varying extents locked into the Apple ecosystem already so it takes away the hassle factor of having to find a way to move your 'life' (be it music, apps, habits, photos or whatever) from Apple to Amazon
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Did I also mention, possibly a 5MP camera and perhaps even a better processor (I say perhaps because nobody actually knows what processor the Fire will have. It could be good, bad or indifferent BUT we know the A5 processor IS a good processor) with more RAM and also more SSD? And this from someone who did pre-order the Fire and if the iTouch wish list I stated comes true I will be cancelling and opting for the iTouch. Just a thought
You have to know how to read those Jobsian head fakes. Some of those statements were deliberate false leads. For example the "people don't read" statement was made at a time when Apple was as busy as ever on developing the iPad!
It's hard to argue with that, although I think most people will order a KF because they want a cheap tablet to have on their coffee table to browse, play some games, play some music and, on the odd occasion, download some movies for take with them on the go. And they are familiar with the Amazon content and service so don't have to risk too much. Certainly not at $200. But, my argument is that Voice is declining (so is texting in Europe, but that's another story for another day), so with the advantages set out above of a vastly upgraded (putative) iPod Touch, who wouldn't wait until the better KF 2 (or whatever is called) is release in January?
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Well, as long as the carriers make things way more expensive than necessary (voice v data, sms v data etc.), people will surely find ways to operate around it. Thing is, carriers have too much control over the wireless infrastructure, and they're really not interested in merging the two, as it just reduces their revenue. I mean, the trend is obvious, and the end result is inevitable - data is data is data, voice, text, video, whatever - but still, we havent seen the last of carrier crap pricing yet.
(that said, in sweden most have "free" texting, and calls run at like 0.1 usd per minute, or less, so our problem is not that big in the end. But i guess we're more fortunate than most.)
And, yeah, thats how i would - or perhaps will - use my KF. That, and take it with me when i know i will have time to read stuff. Just a damn shame that it probably will be quite useless when outside in the sun. Reflections ftl.
Necessary tactic when the competition continually attempts to mimic Apple's innovative products.