Who cares? Most new TVs have built-in app stores where the Amazon Prime app is available (not that I use it, ftw Plex).
$8.99 * 12 = $107.88Amazon did debut a standalone Prime Video streaming service for $8.99 a month, allowing users to subscribe to the service without signing up for the annual $99 Amazon Prime bundle, which includes free shipping from the company's retail store, unlimited streaming music and more.
Amazon seems to hire the absolute worst UI designers in the industry. They seem to take pleasure in producing interfaces that unnecessarily frustrate their users.
What "acceptable business terms" do they currently get on iOS (where the app is available now) that are not currently available to them on tvOS?
Yes, I am considering it because of them.
That said not sure just the top gear show warrants the money to pay for prime. Sure the 2 day shipping is awesome but I don't buy that much to justify it.
You know you can still AirPlay with the 4th gen AppleTV, right?
It's because on IOS you can use Safari to buy Prime membership on the Amazon website, but on TVOS there is no web browser, so any purchase has to be done through the App. In App purchases give Apple a 30% cut of the purchase price goes, Apple doesn't allow the purchase price to be higher on the Apple App store for services available elsewhere, so Amazon would be forced to swallow a 30% loss on something, which has a profit margin much lower than that (Prime actually makes a loss, the only part of Amazon that makes a profit is Amazon Web Services, it subsidises everything else).What "acceptable business terms" do they currently get on iOS (where the app is available now) that are not currently available to them on tvOS?
It's because on IOS you can use Safari to buy Prime membership on the Amazon website, but on TVOS there is no web browser, so any purchase has to be done through the App. In App purchases give Apple a 30% cut of the purchase price goes, Apple doesn't allow the purchase price to be higher on the Apple App store for services available elsewhere, so Amazon would be forced to swallow a 30% loss on something, which has a profit margin much lower than that (Prime actually makes a loss, the only part of Amazon that makes a profit is Amazon Web Services, it subsidises everything else).
Maybe all us Amazon Prime customers should be boycotting Amazon, complaining that we're being charged for a video streaming service that we can't use.
What "acceptable business terms" do they currently get on iOS (where the app is available now) that are not currently available to them on tvOS?
I always stream Amazon prime video from the iOS app to my Apple TV.
One of the reasons I have the old Apple TV.
I think it's answered in this post...This works on the current ATV too. Its my Prime loophole too.
This process also highlights to me that Bezos is FOS here. If Prime encourages streaming to iPads and iPhones AND those apps can stream to ATV then what is the true hang-up about offering the same app for ATV? What is the net-net difference to Amazon between customers streaming from their iDevices to ATV vs directly to ATV?
The 30% cut seems acceptable for the app store but is always going to cause problems when applied to subscription services where the profit margins are already fairly tight.It's because on IOS you can use Safari to buy Prime membership on the Amazon website, but on TVOS there is no web browser, so any purchase has to be done through the App. In App purchases give Apple a 30% cut of the purchase price goes, Apple doesn't allow the purchase price to be higher on the Apple App store for services available elsewhere, so Amazon would be forced to swallow a 30% loss on something, which has a profit margin much lower than that (Prime actually makes a loss, the only part of Amazon that makes a profit is Amazon Web Services, it subsidises everything else).
This is true! If you have a free app and only for pre subscribed customers only, then Apple do not take a cut!What "acceptable business terms" do they currently get on iOS (where the app is available now) that are not currently available to them on tvOS?
I have yet to return any of my apple tvs because it doesn't have prime video. I also have yet to ever watch prime video, despite being a long time prime member. I'm not watching anything I have to AirPlay because AirPlay sucks and keeps dropping out.
I'm the opposite - I went with Amazon Fire TV 4K devices rather than Apple TV because I want something that offers both Netflix AND Prime Video. The 4K support is also a nice bonus.
he is saying he hasn't found a need to update to the atv4 since he is waiting for Amazon to release their app to consider it.You know you can still AirPlay with the 4th gen AppleTV, right?
But you can't buy on the PS3 appAnd I have both a Roku and an Apple TV, because the Roku does Amazon (and others) where the Apple TV does not. I don't blame Amazon looking for the right terms. If Apple wants 30% of purchases via that app, that's unacceptable in a world where the consumer has so many other streaming device choices.
All the non prime movies and tv.This is true! If you have a free app and only for pre subscribed customers only, then Apple do not take a cut!
Mr. Bozo, you have no (business terms) problem supporting your prime Video App IOS devices from Apple but you do with AppleTV. Amazon customers indirectly pay for Prime video and they should have freedom to run their paid Amazon service on any popular platforms they choose.