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Is this one of Alexa’s “skills” invading your privacy??
It's not "invading" if you've invited them in... If you invite a friend over and then get into an argument with your spouse, they aren't invading your privacy.

Now, if they pick a random third party and tell that person all about the argument, you can say they've violated your trust-- but that's a different offense.
 
everyone laughed and raged when germany did this surveillance thing back in the day but now they all voluntarily get devices like this and pretend like none of whatever they say goes through to amazon's server to be processed and used to improve their AI.
 
While this is indeed troubling, given that there is no such thing as bug-free software this type of side effect is going to happen. Once it does, a family/home risk analysis is in order. Can you live with the occasional random bug? If so, don't stress. If not, unplug. The real concern is how... and how quickly... Amazon responds. Fortunately because of their software model those fixes are automatically applied as soon as possible.

For me (YMMV) I can live with this. I don't, however, connect Alexa to anything financial or to my home security system. Lights, Devices, and Music are my staples.

Who really thinks this was a "bug". A bug that the recoding got sent to the wrong place and Amazon got caught maybe.
 
“Alexa is so much better than Siri.”

“Get it together Apple.”

“Apple is so behind in voice assistants and AI.”

No matter how “behind” Apple is in relation to Google and Amazon, this is the stuff that can kill your product.

I think Apple is correctly moving slowly in this space. There ARE downsides to voice assistants and AI when they move forward at lightening speed.
 
It seems like being ignorant is a convenience for many. No one cared about Facebook sharing their data before Facebook got caught up in the Trump presidential election scandal. No one cared about Alexa constantly recording their conversations throughout the day until an article like this one came along. Suddenly people are acting shocked.

IOT type devices are still very new, and it will probably be a while before a manufacturer comes along and makes them right, where they won't be prone to such screw-ups, and won't get hijjacked by DDoS or similar bots for harmful purposes.
 
This is one of the reasons why I still have no idea why people put these devices in their homes voluntarily. HomePod included.
Exactly what I was thinking.... there is zero chance I'll ever put any device that has said abilities in my home. I have quality speakers for listening to music.... I don't need a speaker that listens to my every conversation, keeps track of said conversation and does who knows what with that info.
 
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Not totally surprising. Echo's exist so Amazon can sell you more products. I bought a HomePod and have found it to be a much better experience, from sounding amazing, to Siri hearing me from upstairs and over music, to HomeKit automation. I sold my Echo's and have been happy so far. I'd like a couple mini HomePod's for around the house.
what makes you think siri isn't doing the same thing on some level?
 
Say what you want about Apple but Siri will never do such thing....she wouldn't recognize the command in the first place :p

I know you think that you are knocking Siri, but in fact you're paying "her" a compliment. Any voice interpretation software is going to have a range of error. Some apps will be overly conservative about interpreting what is said; some may be over-aggressive. It seems pretty clear that for a home application, being conservative--"sorry, I don't understand that"-- is FAR better than being over-aggressive-- making a guess and taking action based on that guess.
 
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In an update on Ars that posts Amazon's detailed response, it's clear that the Alexa device, while accidentally awakened, asked multiple times out loud for confirmation of both the contact name and the send command. I think this one is pilot error.
 
Yeah, have a device that listens to you 24/7 and have it hooked up to the internet, made by a corporation that cares nothing about you.
What could go wrong?
 
Yeah, have a device that listens to you 24/7 and have it hooked up to the internet, made by a corporation that cares nothing about you.
What could go wrong?

To some extent, phones and laptops already can/do.

But yeah I don't see the appeal in these "smart assistants."
 
what makes you think siri isn't doing the same thing on some level?

Motive and the fact that Apple wouldn’t risk their reputation for that.
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I have yet to find a post from you when you are critical of Apple. Usually you only talk very positively about Apple which I find little unusual. :)
Regardless, Homepod is the same problem. If someone hacks in your Homepod you have a massive problem and having that device at home is a big risk.
I like the idea of Homepod at home but not with a microphone. If Apple releases one without all the ******** and gives me just a good speaker then I'll get one but I'm not buying a device with a microphone.

I am critical of Apple when necessary, but I view Apple as a business so I really have no say in the decisions they make. I feel they ultimately give me the best overall value when it comes to tech stuff. HomeKit is the most secure of the smart home platforms so I’m confident it won’t be hacked as you say, at least until proven otherwise. Siri works well for me, mainly because of the microphones so I’d like the keep that. Siri can be much improved, but I’m guessing that’s coming in June.
 
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Let's put internet connected speakers in every room of the house, because using a light switch, or checking the weather on my phone takes too much effort. What could go wrong?
Your iPhone IS an internet connected speaker with a microphone. But it gets even better...it also has GPS and LTE so they can “listen to you” on the go!

Tell me again how your phone is different from an internet connected speaker?
 
Not totally surprising. Echo's exist so Amazon can sell you more products.

lol If so, it's a failure in my house, and likely many others. We don't buy anything through our Echoes. We use them mostly for home control, music, timers, and the occasional question.

Who really thinks this was a "bug". A bug that the recoding got sent to the wrong place and Amazon got caught maybe.

This gets my vote for dumb post of the week.

Of course it's a bug. What, you think it was intentionally coded to send random recordings to random contacts??
 
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This is one of the reasons why I still have no idea why people put these devices in their homes voluntarily. HomePod included.

You know right?!

Welcome to the future of computers. We never had true privacy.

At least now we know.

Speak for yourself I did have privacy, back in the 80’s to very early 1990 - the net was called BBS ;)

Now that you mention it, I don’t think Amazon has updated their privacy rules for GDPR yet

Does this really surprise anyone? Everyone is still after and focusing on Facebooks BS & PR run. Every interview about their screwups under scrutiny ends up being a product marketing spot by any staff.

Let's put internet connected speakers in every room of the house, because using a light switch, or checking the weather on my phone takes too much effort. What could go wrong?

Laziness. This product solves no issue we want or need!!
 
Welcome to the future of computers. We never had true privacy.

At least now we know.
Some of us always knew, others pretended they didn't. The whole big data/machine learning/social network thing is a scam, it hardly improves our lives unless we are so corrupted that we feel right when the machine thinks you are your social friends and you must think and behave like the majority does. It would never work for me. The industry is spending trillions in research, development and marketing in order to force spybots on you without giving you an alternative (helps the governments too) instead of e.g. promoting solutions that are both private and efficient. Users that do care should start learning and teaching how to be offline, underground, and critical sooner than later. it's not just the future that is dystopic, we are already experiencing it in the present.
 
This is one of the reasons why I still have no idea why people put these devices in their homes voluntarily. HomePod included.


Makes you wonder if the VERY same ppl would by an autonomous driving car not programmed to brake!??

Uber Self-Driving Car in Crash Wasn't Programmed to Brake https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-system-saw-pedestrian-killed-but-didn-t-stop

I somehow recall a joke about the DeLorean built by nephews and the inventor forgot to build a Reverse gear in the car. Again that was a joke ... Uber these Frakn morons actually claimed safety but nobody thought common sense that a car driving by a computer should be taught how and qhen to brake.
 
Like this ....
 

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