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So many armchair MBAs on the thread here. I wonder how many of these self righteous statements will survive when they enter the real business world.
 
Since there have been over 200 million iOS devices sold, Amazon (and others) have the potential to reach a far greater audience. This is all possible because of the platform that Apple built. Why then, should Amazon be allowed to profit on this platform without paying "rent"?

the idea that all 200 million iOS sold are out and working is idiotic - it is just a PR number for a blog - Wonder why should Apple be allowed to profit with iTunes on Windows without paying "rent"? It is after all the platform Microsoft built
 
Apple has every right to do what it wants with its platform; it seems perfectly reasonable to me for them to want to get in on the action from apps that are taking advantage of the platform's userbase (meaning, apps like Kindle that direct the user to the Kindle Store, in which case Apple gets nothing, despite providing Amazon with the customer in the first place via the iOS device).

So app and content providers like Amazon and others contributing massively to the appeal and demand of iOS devices and providing Apple with buyers means nothing?
 
So many armchair MBAs on the thread here. I wonder how many of these self righteous statements will survive when they enter the real business world.

Oh please, this isn't about making money, it's about the user's usability getting reduced. Obviously, Apple isn't hurting for money, so cash grabs like these are quite ludicrous. :rolleyes:
 
No, it's like Wal-Mart taking a percentage of the price for things sold in Wal-Mart.

I know...so unreasonable! Right?

I love how the really simple analogies miss out the huge purchase price of the iDevice. So that Wal-Mart is in a shopping mall I bought.

By your logic Audi should get a cut from the radio stations using "their hardware" in my TT! :rolleyes:

Bottom line - the more Apple does to make the iPad less useful to me, the more likely it is I'll go elsewhere.
 
Ah, I thought we were talking about the iOS platform. I don't know if you can add mobi books to the physical Kindle.

Nope, Kindle e-reader. Believe me, I HAVE done it - you have to convert the book to the proper format, unless you find a site that already sells the book in .prc format.

But like I said, for new stuff it's Amazon. But it's usually cheaper there anyway, so that's cool.

But you had me all excited about using iTunes to get around that. Dang.
 
Hell the rule in Jan were even worse.

If Apple was truly interested in strong-arming Kindle off of iOS why did they change the rules from the original?

If it was truly an evil, closed, strong-arming platform worse than anything conceived in modern technology, why did Apple acquiesce to some changes to its initial rule?
 
Ah these companies have such egos, I swear. Let them run to Android or something else, but they will see at the end that "they" are the ones who are loosing, not customers. I can still go to a store and buy a cheaper printed version of a magazine or a book.
 
Oh please, this isn't about making money, it's about the user's usability getting reduced. Obviously, Apple isn't hurting for money, so cash grabs like these are quite ludicrous. :rolleyes:

And name me 5 successful companies that don't look for ways to maximize the cash they take in.
 
Yeah, that might be a hard argument for Amazon to make, since the only books they allow on the Kindle are books downloaded from Amazon (although there are a few work-arounds to that, but they aren't easy).

Nope. Not true. As has already been noted, you can load any .mobi file onto a Kindle. I've helped my mom do this with her Kindle. It's as simple as emailing the .mobi file to your Kindle account email address. Hardly a "work-around", and certainly very easy.
 
Samples

So, I guess when I come to the end of a sample, there is no link to purchase the book? Can anyone confirm?

If so, how inconvenient.

:(
 
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Nope, Kindle e-reader. Believe me, I HAVE done it - you have to convert the book to the proper format, unless you find a site that already sells the book in .prc format.

But like I said, for new stuff it's Amazon. But it's usually cheaper there anyway, so that's cool.

But you had me all excited about using iTunes to get around that. Dang.

Sorry :)
 
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Is everyone here that has the app, just going to update?

I plan on holding on to the version that I have, with the button...

www.ereaderiq.com

a few decent books a week and i read about sales so i'm going to update. most of my kindle use is done offline anyway so i don't care about buying from within the app
 
So many armchair MBAs on the thread here. I wonder how many of these self righteous statements will survive when they enter the real business world.

I don't know about you but some of us have internationally recognised MBA's and run our own companies.

We just don't sell hardware to customers and then make the item they bought less useful to them. ;)
 
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Nope. Not true. As has already been noted, you can load any .mobi file onto a Kindle. I've helped my mom do this with her Kindle. It's as simple as emailing the .mobi file to your Kindle account email address. Hardly a "work-around", and certainly very easy.

I've never used the email address, so that's something to try. I've either had to convert books to the .mobi format altogether (and in that case I then just put it on the Kindle via USB) or the book I wanted was available on Amazon.
 
I don't think we can speculate one way or another how the removal of a link to a web browser had demonstrably hurt the Kindle platform. Should iBooks gain significant leverage over Kindle in the next year we might be able to state that, but until that point you are merely speculating based on your pre-conceived notions.

It is not pre-conceived. Fact of the matter that now it is harder to go buy books from Amazon. It takes more steps and is more difficult to do. These means fewer books will be sold. Simple as that.
 
So many armchair MBAs on the thread here. I wonder how many of these self righteous statements will survive when they enter the real business world.

+1

Lot's of silly statements from people who obviously have no marketing, sales or distribution experience. If they did, they would stop being so silly and just sit back and watch the show as this new distribution channel get's ironed out by the companies involved.

No one is evil here... Apple, Amazon, or otherwise... they are all just trying to sort out what works. We've already seen several times over the history of iTunes where Apple has changed it's policies to better serve the content providers and it's customers.

But it's easier just to cry about the 30% cut and make other silly statements than to really understand what's going on here.
 
If Apple was truly interested in strong-arming Kindle off of iOS why did they change the rules from the original?

If it was truly an evil, closed, strong-arming platform worse than anything conceived in modern technology, why did Apple acquiesce to some changes to its initial rule?

Perhaps because they may face legal scrutiny for anticompetitive practices?
 
So, I guess when I come to the end of a sample, there is no link to purchase a book? Can anyone confirm?

If so, how inconvenient.

:(

That I don't know, because I don't usually bother with samples. But I would guess the answer is no.

So, you'll just have to go to Amazon.com to buy the book. Or, get rid of the iPhone/iPad.

(Just kidding... but maybe not)
 
It is not pre-conceived. Fact of the matter that now it is harder to go buy books from Amazon. It takes more steps and is more difficult to do. These means fewer books will be sold. Simple as that.

Do you know how many people used the link in the app to purchase books?

Even more simple is that unless iBooks offers the same content as Kindle, Amazon will remain the dominant ebook platform. Simple as that. I'm deeply skeptical this will take place in the next year.
 
It is not pre-conceived. Fact of the matter that now it is harder to go buy books from Amazon. It takes more steps and is more difficult to do. These means fewer books will be sold. Simple as that.

Seriously, if this affects book sales at all it will shock me.
 
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