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I don't think they are 'mythical' by any degree. During the groups time at the CDC HQ there was plenty of 'biological' proof, I don't recall if it was a virus or bacterial. Nevertheless, the 'affliction' for lack of a better word, restarts the core of the brain, 'nothing that makes us human' as the scientist said, I wouldn't be surprised if they have some semblance of instincts, much like how some pack animals work together, they might have the ability to work together in a sense. Maybe not in the way a living group of humans can, but they are predators, and predators are pretty sneaky.:D

Well, zombies are mythical, so the writers of The Walking Dead can make the zombies operate any way they want to.

However, I think the rules are pretty consistent.

1) Zombies are walking dead, but can be killed by massive trauma to the brain, blunt force, gunshots, etc. They are also rotting, so new zombies look relatively human, except for the blood and constant need to gnaw on flesh, but older zombies may be in severe disrepair.

2) If excited, zombies can move quicker and will tend to mass if there's food, and that's either horses, dogs or people.

3) Zombies can see, hear and smell as well as normal humans, but since they are tuned to hunting by this point, they can be very attentive. They're also easily confused by flares and attracted to loud noises.

4) They 'remember' some aspect of themselves, which means they can try to open doors and climb ladders.

5) The infection is through bites or scratches, but not contact.
 
Almost time for the new episode tonight!

I feel sorry for her. She has to tell her husband she's being having an affair with his best friend and she's pregnant by him. Yikes.
 
Almost time for the new episode tonight!

I feel sorry for her. She has to tell her husband she's being having an affair with his best friend and she's pregnant by him. Yikes.

She could try to let him think it is his? :D

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When Andrea shot Daryl tonight mistaking him for a walker, I literally jumped out of my chair and shouted "NOOOOOO!" Thanks goodness it was only a graze. I understand his character was not in the comics. He is such a great addition. :)

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Finally we get to see what's in the barn. And it's not the chuacabra.
 
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Wow at what's in the barn! It's so many twist and turns with this show.

I thought he died when she shot him. I like his character a lot. It was so stupid of her to shoot in the first place! It p-ed me off.

In the beginning, I guess they will find more people and the city will burn down. I saw a lot of helicopters. That must be a later episode.
 
In the beginning, I guess they will find more people and the city will burn down. I saw a lot of helicopters. That must be a later episode.


Very interesting. My initial impression is that it was a flashback, but since we did not see them do that to Atlanta, it has to be a flash forward.

Not to detract from the show, I'm loving it, but I guess I should not use too much logic regarding walkers. Those out staggering through the forest have about a 1% chance of catching any critters. I would think that the whole bunch of them would starve in the matter of a month.
 
I think these people are uber-religious, I think they refuse to kill (the already dead) people in their barn. Or it people they know and think there will be a cure.

Either way, good lord they are going to knock the door down.:eek:

Glen went from Horny to horrified in about 1 second.
 
Very interesting. My initial impression is that it was a flashback, but since we did not see them do that to Atlanta, it has to be a flash forward.

It's not a flash forward. The characters in the scene already know each other and the husband is now dead. It was a flash back to show you how some of them initially met on the road. I'm not sure which city they were bombing, but I took it more as fill in detail on how some of them met and the continuing crises that would bring them together.
 
It's not a flash forward. The characters in the scene already know each other and the husband is now dead. It was a flash back to show you how some of them initially met on the road. I'm not sure which city they were bombing, but I took it more as fill in detail on how some of them met and the continuing crises that would bring them together.

I knew that and conveniently forget it for my post, lol.
 
In the beginning, I guess they will find more people and the city will burn down. I saw a lot of helicopters. That must be a later episode.

Very interesting. My initial impression is that it was a flashback, but since we did not see them do that to Atlanta, it has to be a flash forward.

It's not a flash forward. The characters in the scene already know each other and the husband is now dead. It was a flash back to show you how some of them initially met on the road. I'm not sure which city they were bombing, but I took it more as fill in detail on how some of them met and the continuing crises that would bring them together.

mscriv is correct; it's a flashback, and the helicopters are indeed bombing Atlanta. If I remember last night's episode correctly, I think I heard the mention of napalm, which does incendiary damage (burn flesh and other flammables) but not necessarily concussive damage (knock down walls and buildings); that would explain why most of Atlanta's buildings were still standing when Rick went to Atlanta in the first season.

I think these people are uber-religious, I think they refuse to kill (the already dead) people in their barn. Or it people they know and think there will be a cure.

Either way, good lord they are going to knock the door down.:eek:

Do you remember one of the first "heart-to-heart" talks between Herschel and Rick? Herschel talked about the infection being another illness, and that the CDC would eventually cure it. (To which Rick responded by informing Herschel that the CDC was destroyed.)

Anyway, there is a strong parallel between this latest situation twist and the comic. That's all I'm going to say; anything more detailed is spoiler territory.

When Laurie shot Darrel tonight mistaking him for a walker, I literally jumped out of my chair and shouted "NOOOOOO!" Thanks goodness it was only a graze. I understand his character was not in the comics. He is such a great addition. :)

Yes, Daryl is quite the breakout character. Robert Kirkman is reportedly trying to figure out a way to write Daryl into the comic.
 
AMC is holding true to form and making this very much a drama more then a zombie movie.

I haven’t read the books, so I can't say if they follow the same idea. I was a little miffed about 3 shows into this season as it was less about zombies, but I'm starting to develop feelings (good and bad) about the characters which is the sign of a well written storyline.
 
I'm really, bloody glad Darryl didn't die in the recent ep. A couple of times I thought he was a goner. Although the bit where he fell down into the water and shouted "sunova bitch" brought back memories of Sawyer :).
More and more I'm disliking whatshername who fired the shot at Darryl. She just frowns and complains, everything is her "right" and does things without thinking. Not keen on juggernaut characters like that but I can imagine they're building her up for a fall (or change of personality).
 
AMC is holding true to form and making this very much a drama more then a zombie movie.

I haven’t read the books, so I can't say if they follow the same idea. I was a little miffed about 3 shows into this season as it was less about zombies, but I'm starting to develop feelings (good and bad) about the characters which is the sign of a well written storyline.

This is precisely why The Walking Dead is a hit. It basically proves that the only thing that can make a zombie weekly series special is people trying to survive under horrific circumstances, but trying to maintain their humanity. If it was just fighting off zombies every week, it would get old pretty quick.

I'm really, bloody glad Darryl didn't die in the recent ep. A couple of times I thought he was a goner. Although the bit where he fell down into the water and shouted "sunova bitch" brought back memories of Sawyer :).
More and more I'm disliking whatshername who fired the shot at Darryl. She just frowns and complains, everything is her "right" and does things without thinking. Not keen on juggernaut characters like that but I can imagine they're building her up for a fall (or change of personality).

Remember Andrea no longer likes her life. She has wanted to die ever since she had to kill her sister.

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Yes, Daryl is quite the breakout character. Robert Kirkman is reportedly trying to figure out a way to write Daryl into the comic.

In the spectrum of possible character types, hard to believe he overlooked a red neck survivalist. And Merle was awesome in his first season appearance. :)

Regarding what is in the barn, I'm looking forward to the reasons why. As simple as keeping walkers alive until they can be cured or something more sinister??
 
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Yes, Daryl is quite the breakout character. Robert Kirkman is reportedly trying to figure out a way to write Daryl into the comic.

If Daryl is not original to the books then how about his brother Merle? Is he an original character or another one created just for the TV show? My wife and I keep wondering when, how, or if he will ever show back up.
 
This week was better, but I guess I'm the only one who thinks season two has been terrible with nothing beyond the zombies/gore attraction. But I do enjoy discussion, so my main problems with it of late:

1) Spending the season parked by the side of a road, looking for a little girl (who honestly I don't give a damn about). I think I've had enough of them searching the woods for Sophia. The episodes are incredibly boring, little to nothing happens until the final minute. How many times have we seen them unroll a map and assign search quadrants? Or trek through the woods talking about things they've already discussed? Way too many.

2) Constant dumb decisions by everyone. Trying to lower someone down a well with a zombie in it, withholding guns/training from everyone, having the mother of the missing child never actually look for her (all she does is clean the RV for her), trigger happy Andrea, peeing on a preggo stick in the woods instead of behind a bathroom door, more than half the group sitting around doing laundry/playing guitar while others search for the girl, keeping that POS winnebago as a main vehicle, etc. I have serious trouble believing any of these idiots (except Daryl) would ever survive a zombie apocalypse. It's like the 10 dumbest people possible survived. I mean these people actually spent time ironing clothes.

3) The acting is absolutely terrible. From Rick to Andrea to Carol, Shane, Lori, it's cringe-worthy more often than not.

4) It's hard to like/root for any of these characters. I find the Rick/Lori/Shane triangle nauseating. All Carol does is cry. Andrea is dangerously stupid. Dale is a buffoon. T-Dog has had 3 lines all season. Glenn is a doormat. The only regular character I actually like is Daryl the redneck. And there really isn't one single female character that's not useless? Really?

This week, we saw in the flashback that Lori and Shane left Carl behind with strangers while they both went to scout up ahead - during the beginnings of an apocalypse. Worst parents ever, my god. It's things like this that pull me out of the story week after week and make me fervently hope the zombies win.
 
This week was better, but I guess I'm the only one who thinks season two has been terrible with nothing beyond the zombies/gore attraction. But I do enjoy discussion, so my main problems with it of late:

You are pickier than I am. I like the acting. Don't expect people to do all the right things in a story about zombies taking over the world... I can see a group spending more time than they should looking for a lost girl. Of course, Shane agrees with you. He wants to cut her loose and move on. This is while the story develops at Hershel's. And how long before Lori breaks the news to Rick? ;)

On a separate note, I believe comics have a hard time competing with well done filmed drama. I'm up to Episode 6 of the Walking Dead Comics. The most emotional scenes I've seen that were not in the comics:

Morgan, the African American living in Rick's house trying to get the nerve to shoot his walker wife. (Season 1: Not in the comic)

Andrea lovingly saying good bye to her dead sister Amy as she (Amy) starts to animate as a zombie, before Andrea shoots her in the head. In the comic, it's just blamo without fanfare. ;) (Season 1)

The death of Jim by zombie bite was excruciating compared to the comic. (Season 1)

The most shocking event in Season 2 is when Shane spoiler> shoots Otis to facilitate his escape <end spoiler on the medical equipment run?? I don't know if there is a parallel in the comics. Was Shane morally justified or just being pragmatic and self serving? His actions saved Carl Grimes. Otis had all ready told him to go on ahead...

The big surprise in the comic (stop here if you plan on reading it) spoiler> is that while Shane attacks Rick and is about to kill him over his wife, when little Carl Grimes shoots him dead, <end spoiler before they make it to the CDC.
 
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Great insight in this thread!
 
Oh yeah, one more thing that drove me nuts this week - freaking Dale joking with Andrea that they've "all wanted to shoot Daryl." Really? Why, because he actually gets off his duff and contributes instead of having book club meetings and hanging dry laundry all day?

The MVP of your little Meals on Wheels caravan almost got killed because of utter stupidity, and the only person who should feel worse than Andrea is Dale for joking about it.

In the words of Dr. Creepster von Religious, aka Herschel, "It's a wonder you people have survived this long."
 
Oh yeah, one more thing that drove me nuts this week - freaking Dale joking with Andrea that they've "all wanted to shoot Daryl." Really? Why, because he actually gets off his duff and contributes instead of having book club meetings and hanging dry laundry all day?

Oh, come on. Dale was just trying to alleviate some of Andrea's guilt. :)
 
Oh, come on. Dale was just trying to alleviate some of Andrea's guilt. :)

What the hell for? She SHOULD feel guilty. Her desperation to shoot a gun almost got their most useful party member killed. Let that sink in so you don't pull that crap again. Chuckling about it straightaway is dumb.

The way these writers have portrayed the women on this show is absurd.
 
The way these writers have portrayed the women on this show is absurd.

This is something I brought up with my girlfriend. She hasn't watched the show yet, but she asked about the female characters on the show.
1) Sits in a caravan all day.
2) Is caught in some love triangle and is pregnant.
3) Scowls all the time and doesn't think. Generally an unpleasant character.
4) Wants emotionless sex to p**s off her strict father.

They haven't really done a good job with them, IMO. And I really hope they get fleshed out a bit.
LOST on the other hand (which my friends compare to since that was the last great American sci-fi show we watched) had a string of powerful, non-cliched female characters. Same for Heroes.
 
What the hell for? She SHOULD feel guilty. Her desperation to shoot a gun almost got their most useful party member killed. Let that sink in so you don't pull that crap again. Chuckling about it straightaway is dumb.

The way these writers have portrayed the women on this show is absurd.

Not making excuses for Dale, but I think he is in love with her. People in love say things. In your example it's the writers portraying how a man reacts to a woman.

You starting to sound like my wife. Why are they stopping there? Why are dead people sitting cars? Why are there walkers way out in the woods? etc.
"Just go with the flow, hun". :)
 
You starting to sound like my wife. Why are they stopping there? Why are dead people sitting cars? Why are there walkers way out in the woods? etc.
"Just go with the flow, hun". :)

I don't like to have to turn my brain off when I watch television, so yeah, I expect the writers to do their part. I do admit to being picky about what I watch, so I fully realize I'm probably on the harsher spectrum with regards to this show. I also just really enjoy discussing and analyzing television.

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This is something I brought up with my girlfriend. She hasn't watched the show yet, but she asked about the female characters on the show.
1) Sits in a caravan all day.
2) Is caught in some love triangle and is pregnant.
3) Scowls all the time and doesn't think. Generally an unpleasant character.
4) Wants emotionless sex to p**s off her strict father.

They haven't really done a good job with them, IMO. And I really hope they get fleshed out a bit.
LOST on the other hand (which my friends compare to since that was the last great American sci-fi show we watched) had a string of powerful, non-cliched female characters. Same for Heroes.

Yes. A thousand times yes.
 
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Andrea's one of the best-written characters in the comics, and she was very true to the books in the first season. However, thanks to the crap they pulled with the side CDC story, now she's ticked that she "couldn't die her own way", and is moody and everything else.

She's NOT the Andrea we know and love right now. However, while watching The Talking Dead after the episode, they did bring up a good point - while it was incredibly stupid for her to shoot the gun (for many reasons, least of which, 4 guys could easily dispatch ONE walker without *having* to shoot a gun), they did show something that she gets VERY good at later. She's the sniper/long range shooter in the group, and I think they needed to have this moment to start showing how skillful she is.

Huntn: I loved that second spoiler of yours in the comic...I hope they can do it similarly in the show. I think the argument Rick and Shane had in this episode is leading up to that...
 
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