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AMD M395X in new Retina iMac

fathergll said:
The main thing you want to be aware of is that the 4GB card runs much hotter than the 2GB which means 2 potential issues;

1. Fan noise(well documented in the M295X)

2. Long term effects of high thermal temps in the iMac. No your iMac won't melt but be cautious of any issues down the road. Don't listen to anyone who blindly says 'Apple engineers these computers for high temps'. Use your own head and make your own decision. BMW engineers the M3 for high performance as well, doesn't mean it's going to have the same reliability as a 328.
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If one is dropping that kind of dough and wants performance why skimp on it, go for the gt3.
 
aevan said:
So, basically you have one of the (if not THE) most beautiful and accurate screens on the market in the best looking desktop computer on the market that is silent, fast and has a great OS.... And can run all the modern games in 1440p resolutions with high details even though it was not created for that purpose - and you find it "disappointing"? Because there is a gaming GPU that can run games a bit better?! I mean, when did everything become crap all of the sudden? When did people start believing they are somehow entitled to whatever they imagine? Apple comes out with a FRIGGIN 5K DISPLAY and people are 'meh'. Apple makes a SILENT supercomputer that is smaller than a trashcan, and people are 'meh'. Apple makes a laptop that is the size of an iPad and people are 'meh'. Apple makes crazy-ass haptic magic "I don't believe I'm not really clicking" trackpad that can sense pressure and people are 'meh'. But when Apple puts a GPU that benchmarks 80 instead of 90 fps in Assassin's Creed people are DISAPPOINTED! Seriously, when did this happen? Oh, right.... It was always this way. It's called "forums on the Internet".
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You win the internet today, sir (or madam). <slow clap>
 
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My M295X can handle Blizzy games @ 5K at 30-40fps with "almost" high details, quite nice for an M gpu, but I won't expect a noticeable increase with the M395X
 
Astelith said:
My M295X can handle Blizzy games @ 5K at 30-40fps with "almost" high details, quite nice for an M gpu, but I won't expect a noticeable increase with the M395X
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Hi Astelith. Does running your games result in fan-noise or would you say the rumors are over exaggerated? I am considering retirering my early 24" 2009 IMac ( which still runs rather well ) and replacing it with the new 2015 27" iMac with almost the same specs as yours from last year. I am strongly considering the M395x.
 
palantas said:
Hi Astelith. Does running your games result in fan-noise or would you say the rumors are over exaggerated? I am considering retirering my early 24" 2009 IMac ( which still runs rather well ) and replacing it with the new 2015 27" iMac with almost the same specs as yours from last year. I am strongly considering the M395x.
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Rumors here are over exaggerated? Say it ain't so? 😀

I have the fully loaded 2014 iMac Retina w/M295. I play Starcraft II in full 5k resolution. Can I hear the fan? Yes? Is it noisy? NO! It barely rises above a soft whisper.

Some folks just love to complain, or hear/read about complaints then pass them on with full embellishment.

You're into a serious upgrade with the new iMac, and you won't regret it.
 
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aevan said:
M395X is Ok for Bootcamp gaming. M295X is Ok for Bootcamp gaming. Heck, my M290X is Ok for Bootcamp gaming.So, basically you have one of the (if not THE) most beautiful and accurate screens on the market in the best looking desktop computer on the market that is silent, fast and has a great OS.... And can run all the modern games in 1440p resolutions with high details even though it was not created for that purpose - and you find it "disappointing"? Because there is a gaming GPU that can run games a bit better?! I mean, when did everything become crap all of the sudden? When did people start believing they are somehow entitled to whatever they imagine? Apple comes out with a FRIGGIN 5K DISPLAY and people are 'meh'. Apple makes a SILENT supercomputer that is smaller than a trashcan, and people are 'meh'. Apple makes a laptop that is the size of an iPad and people are 'meh'. Apple makes crazy-ass haptic magic "I don't believe I'm not really clicking" trackpad that can sense pressure and people are 'meh'. But when Apple puts a GPU that benchmarks 80 instead of 90 fps in Assassin's Creed people are DISAPPOINTED! Seriously, when did this happen? Oh, right.... It was always this way. It's called "forums on the Internet".
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Can I frame this and put it on my wall?
 
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Games and very demanding video rendering or encoding will raise the fan speed from silent to 1800-2000 or even higher levels, but if you are playing a game you have to turn off the sound to hear the fan, if you are working with video the iMac is silent until the rendering or encoding, I am personally used to listen music so I don't care about the fan
 
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Maybe apple knows something about AMD that we don't; When they made the original switch to intel processors AMD was (briefly) reigning king. Then we saw the core i series that just left AMD in the dust.

Maybe, just maybe apple knows something we don't. Or more likely apple just got a killer deal for these GPUs as AMD is currently in a bit of a desperate situation.
 
dandrewk said:
Rumors here are over exaggerated? Say it ain't so? 😀

I have the fully loaded 2014 iMac Retina w/M295. I play Starcraft II in full 5k resolution. Can I hear the fan? Yes? Is it noisy? NO! It barely rises above a soft whisper.

Some folks just love to complain, or hear/read about complaints then pass them on with full embellishment.

Your into a serious upgrade with the new iMac, and you won't regret it.
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Thanks for your opinion on the matter. I am not really that sensitive to a fan, and with music playing I bet I won't hear a thing.
 
Fried Chicken said:
Maybe apple knows something about AMD that we don't; When they made the original switch to intel processors AMD was (briefly) reigning king. Then we saw the core i series that just left AMD in the dust.

Maybe, just maybe apple knows something we don't. Or more likely apple just got a killer deal for these GPUs as AMD is currently in a bit of a desperate situation.
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it is known that apple sign a contract with 2 years for each one.
so next year we will having Nvidia
 
Fried Chicken said:
Maybe apple knows something about AMD that we don't; When they made the original switch to intel processors AMD was (briefly) reigning king. Then we saw the core i series that just left AMD in the dust.

Maybe, just maybe apple knows something we don't. Or more likely apple just got a killer deal for these GPUs as AMD is currently in a bit of a desperate situation.
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it is known that apple sign a contract with 2 years for each one.
so next year we will having Nvidia
 
Fried Chicken said:
Maybe apple knows something about AMD that we don't; When they made the original switch to intel processors AMD was (briefly) reigning king. Then we saw the core i series that just left AMD in the dust.

Maybe, just maybe apple knows something we don't. Or more likely apple just got a killer deal for these GPUs as AMD is currently in a bit of a desperate situation.
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I think the latter, apple saved $$$ and AMD are selling 3yr old GPUs

Lets be honest, the M295x GPUs were rather lacklustre, nd the m300 seem like the same old GPU with a slightly higher clock speed. I stand by my previous convictions, that the imac should have remained with nvidia.
The GTX 990M looks amaizing, i would gladly payes for this as a BTO option.

The chip’s performance, according to the executive, is supposedly as high as the current GTX 980M SLI configuration. The current GTX 980M chips are based on a crippled GM204 die with 1536 CUDA cores (4 out of the 16 SMMs disabled). The Geforce GTX 980M SLI configuration currently outpaces the desktop Geforce GTX 980 by several tens of percent.

From http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-mobility-gtx-990m-q4-2015-faster-than-gtx-980/#ixzz3oUPpbc9L
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johnnyturbouk said:
The GTX 990M looks amaizing, i would gladly payes for this as a BTO option.
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Or would you go full rage in these forums because Apple charged, let's say, +500 for it?
An iMac isn't meant to be a fully fledged gaming machine. Never was, never will be. Just because it is capable of gaming (the innards are great after all), it doesn't mean it has to blow every self-built PC out of the water (which was primarily built with gaming in mind).

Let's be happy with that new revision we have here and don't forget that other vendors sell a 5K display alone for 2000. Helps to maintain the sanity.
 
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tokyodan said:
"In terms of overall gaming performance, the graphical capabilities of the AMD Radeon R9 M295X 4GB are marginally better than the AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4GB."

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/inde...re=radeon-r9-m395x-4gb-vs-radeon-r9-m295x-4gb
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The problem is that the the GPU is designed for the next generation of developers using Vulcan, DirectX 12 and Metal rather there being a big boost to OpenGL/DirectX 'Classic' games. Looking through the figures on gpuboss I wouldn't be surprised if the biggest beneficiaries of the M395X will be those software developers who have embraced Metal.
 
Keep in mind these are GPUs that are designed for battery powered laptops. A new generation doesn't always translate to higher processing power, but rather more efficient power. Laptop manufacturers seek better CPUs, faster RAM etc. without having to increase battery size.

Of course, this doesn't help iMacs one bit. If I were shopping for a 27" iMac right now, I'd seriously consider a refurbished or used 2014. With the new generation shipping, there will be some REAL bargains out there, and I'd end up with an iMac that performs every bit as well as the newer ones.
 
tokyodan said:
"In terms of overall gaming performance, the graphical capabilities of the AMD Radeon R9 M295X 4GB are marginally better than the AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4GB."

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/inde...re=radeon-r9-m395x-4gb-vs-radeon-r9-m295x-4gb
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Did you look at the scores? Every single one is in favor of the M395X, just the Texture rate and Pixel fill rate of the M295X are higher. I call BS on that and I guess the 723 MHz are wrong too - when the M295X was already at 850 MHz, the M395X will be at 880-900.
 
MandiMac said:
Did you look at the scores? Every single one is in favor of the M395X, just the Texture rate and Pixel fill rate of the M295X are higher. I call BS on that and I guess the 723 MHz are wrong too - when the M295X was already at 850 MHz, the M395X will be at 880-900.
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There's evidently a strong market for sites that aggregate every rumor and speculation, and algorithmically transform it all into gospel truth.

Only way to be sure is to run benchmarks and other programs that probe the chipsets features. Do you think the local Apple store will have these models in stock?
 
jerwin said:
There's evidently a strong market for sites that aggregate every rumor and speculation, and algorithmically transform it all into gospel truth.

Only way to be sure is to run benchmarks and other programs that probe the chipsets features. Do you think the local Apple store will have these models in stock?
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Yeah, you're right..

I don't think that the Apple Stores will have every model in stock for benchmarking and testing to our liking. As for me, I already ordered a i5/M395X/512GB device which I get early next week. Maybe I start a thread here because I intend to install Win 10 and we know everyone loves performance questions 😉
 
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