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How many people running MacOS see Boot Camp as a necessity at this point?

I'm sure a lot of people here do, but this is a unique group of users.

Only place I use Windows is at work. If I need to use it from home, I remote in on my MBP. It works fine for the stuff that fits in corporate's neat little box and I ocassionaly need.

I think Boot Camp was a way to convince people running Windows they wouldn't be SOL if they bought a Mac and it didn't fit their needs. Those days are essentially gone now. If you're that entrenched in the Windows world, yo're never making MacOS your primary.

And if you ARE that entrenched in Windows, you either have a position that allows you to have multiple machines (especially at today's costs) or have little interest in a Mac.

If I was that entrenched in Windows, I would be running it on a laptop, and using my iPad Pro for personal use.

I use it for some PCVR gaming (and works well, on my iMac Pro). So it's great. But it's not a "necessity". IN the next round of Mac purchases, I would probably get a cheap gaming PC and use that. They are far cheaper price/performance. For now though, it is great to have the convenience of both in one unit.

EDIT: unfortunately these drivers don’t allow that to happen. While I had no problem doing PCVR on my 5500M 16 inch MacBook Pro, and it runs great on my iMac Pro with the Vega 64, it just crashes to a hard reboot the 5600M in Boot Camp. This is with these latest drivers too.
 
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That is a valid stopgap. I did it myself with a 2018 MBP and 2018 mac mini. I assumed from the long hardware drought preceding that purchase Apple was transitioning to something else. The purchase give me the breathing room to unwind from the ecosystem.

It may be I'll find a use for Apple's new ARM thing, but they have been too opaque about their plans to sit back and have faith that will happen.
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Stoked for this admittedly-expected news. Put my order in for a 16" 2.4 i9/64GB/4TB/5600M this morning. I'm one of those oddballs who absolutely plans to game in Boot Camp w/an externally-connected FreeSync gaming monitor.

Very nice, I would say that you one of the best gaming laptops on the market. I do the same from last november model and rolls over my buddies gaming laptop and we spent the same amount of money. I am saving my money up to get the new samsung odesey G9 QLED ultra wide curved gaming monitor, these monitor are so hot they are back ordered until the first of September. Love my PS4 but I can put my MacBook Pro 16 in my laptop bag. Head over to my buddies house and in minutes we are gaming together.
 
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I use it for some PCVR gaming (and works well, on my iMac Pro). So it's great. But it's not a "necessity". IN the next round of Mac purchases, I would probably get a cheap gaming PC and use that. They are far cheaper price/performance. For now though, it is great to have the convenience of both in one unit.

EDIT: unfortunately these drivers don’t allow that to happen. While I had no problem doing PCVR on my 5500M 16 inch MacBook Pro, and it runs great on my iMac Pro with the Vega 64, it just crashes to a hard reboot the 5600M in Boot Camp. This is with these latest drivers too.

I’m in the same boat, had the 16inch MBP with 5500M and was able to run SteamVR with beat saber and Half-life Alyx just fine, really annoying that the new 16inch MBP with the 5600M can’t run SteamVR smoothly. Really hoping AMD puts out new drivers soon!
 
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While us on 5500m haven’t had one driver update so still on 19.30 since launch this is why we don’t get improve speed the 5600M is on 19.50 and they was always included in the bootcamp so didn’t need to download manually from amd site
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They never do once you buy a Mac it doesn’t update the drivers for like a year


Forget apple, use www.bootcampdrivers.com They run stuff much better and no letterbox bs
 
As a followup, I have all my Parallels VMs installed and configured now. Why carry one laptop in your bag when you can carry 15, and one of them is a surprisingly capable Windows gaming rig? I love Macs but I'm not into OS monogamy, and as an IT manager this gives me access to anything I could possibly ever need in one package. That do-it-all aspect is something I think is worth the (admittedly large) extra, at least to me.

The new era of ARM Macs will be something, I'm sure, but they won't be able to do what this does.

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Does it fix the throttling after ~15 minutes of heavy gaming?
I've been limiting boost clock to 3.4 GHz and I've not noticed any throttling in games like COD. I also do things like auto disable turbo in macOS when on battery -- the i7 model at full turbo (& full fans) has about the same multicore performance as my i9 at base clock (with fans at near idle).
 
Or you could take that $700, and buy a PS5 with some games and extra controllers.
You do realize that you can not edit and render videos or audio mix on a PS5 right? oh wait YOU CAN USE A COMPUTER for many things in fact. If you game and edit videos. If you are a professional or maybe you go to school and use it. Your $700 console is only so powerful and is HEAVILY OS limited along with no means of future proofing it. First you spend 700 then a few years later you spend another 700 some and maybe a few later spend say 700. Now if you buy a good future proofed computer for around 1,000-1,500 and there you got around 5-8 years if you don't do dumb crap with it and make sure you clean it every once in a while.
 
I wonder if it even can handle modern AAA games. All the benchmarks I have seen for this GPU use a low/med settings with a 1080 display.
I own one and honestly it works perfectly and is a real powerhouse. Its fast too and manages to have an amazing TDP with the amazing performance it puts out.
 
What are you asking of it? Just curious.
To be able to run games at medium settings at around 2k-4k at ~60fps. It can run quite a bit and destroys at keeping temps decent with the heavy horsepower. It seems to do pretty well especially being in a laptop that is only just over 1/4th of an inch thick that is pretty good performance. Pair it with a 6c 12t i7 instead of an i9 and you got yourself a pretty good gaming pc along with a very productive mac.
 
To be able to run games at medium settings at around 2k-4k at ~60fps. It can run quite a bit and destroys at keeping temps decent with the heavy horsepower. It seems to do pretty well especially being in a laptop that is only just over 1/4th of an inch thick that is pretty good performance. Pair it with a 6c 12t i7 instead of an i9 and you got yourself a pretty good gaming pc along with a very productive mac.

Do you have benchmarks you can share? Everyone that I looked at seemed to be running at 1080 which isn't that hard anymore to push 60+ fps. Right now I have this annoying setup where I have a 2018 MBP that coughs through Final Cut, and a Win10 desktop that sits idle next to it because no one else seems to make decent editing software for novice. I am trying to decide if I should upgrade the MBP or get a mini and external GPU.

If Apple would release NVIVEA drives this would be easy because then I could move my 1080 over. But sigh. No. Of course not.
 
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