I run YouTube on a GoogleTV dongle streamer and it’s in private mode, I don’t see any glitching or stuttering. Need to turn most of these things off in YouTube.
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Roku is frustrating rubbish probably on par with TvOS. Roku App Store is also a joke.
It's not really behind, it's different. That's very much not in the direction Apple is going, or likely to go anytime soon.
The Apple TV is intended much more as a plug-n-play set top box which can be used for various subscription services. Dolby TrueHD Atmos and DTS:X aren't available on the Apple TV because they aren't used by any subscription services. They are available for the Shield, because the Shield is a much broader scoped product.
The same goes for upscaling, anyone with a decent TV using the box for subscription services is going to be better served with the upscaling by the built-in processor tuned to their specific tv.
Meanwhile the Shield lacks some of the video support for things like 12-bit Dolby Vision or higher frame rate HDR.
My point is that if you've got a great home theater that can support advanced audio formats and a media server with remuxes from Blu-Rays with those formats, among other things (like gaming), the Shield is probably for you, but for the much larger consumer base that wants a box with a very nice and responsive UI who will probably be using it only for subscription services or for the far more common audio formats from various sources other than discs, the Apple TV is probably going to be a better product.
For me, when I want Dolby TrueHD Atmos and DTS:X, I'm going with disc anyway.
I have this exact setup and it's great in theory but the actual experience of streaming games is poor. The inherent latency of streaming ruins the experience for me - even in the most casual games.
Native gaming should be the focus. Give me more new games, ports of older games, and more/better emulators.
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How are we going to get that though? Apple keeps saying "we're serious about gaming" but there it begins & ends. They run a "build it and they will come" model while the gaming industry runs an AppleTV+ like model of significant money investments, buying exclusives, subsidizing development, dedicating human talent to FOCUS on the one thing, etc.
And I don't experience/notice the latency you describe. I am wired end to end (no wifi), so perhaps that plays a part? Else, that works well for me and delivers the whole PC (WIDE) world of games immediately instead of wait, wait, wait, "we're serious", wait, wait, "we're double dog serious", wait, wait, etc.
And I don't experience/notice the latency you describe. I am wired end to end (no wifi), so perhaps that plays a part? Else, that works well for me and delivers the whole PC (WIDE) world of games immediately instead of wait, wait, wait, "we're serious", wait, wait, "we're double dog serious", wait, wait, etc.
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You can remove the ALL the adds and suggestions and stuff except that 1 under the menus by changing the Home Screen and Theme options and turning off each stupid feature they like to turn on. Also turn off autoplay ads and such in the accessibility area.
The only annoying thing is when they add another stupid home screen gimmick it is on by default and you have to turn it off. But my Roku main menu has only 4 items.
If it's a few years old, get a newer one. Roku Express 4k is $25.
I have 2 ATVs (one negating the HORRID samsung TIZEN OS, the other on an older Android TV Sony that is fine but the Apple is better), multiple Roku built-in TVs, a few roku external devices, and a google TV native. No FIRE devices as I tried one and couldn't stand it.
All have good and bad points, but ultimately, at $25, the Roku 4k is just the right level of good+price. So much so I bought an extra for travel, and another $17 Roku HD for travel as well for the kids.
No updates anymore for a really old product. No one should be told to buy this. Nvidia has discontinued the shield line
Give us a clean white plastic to match the clean modern aesthetic. Lots of people want to avoid black in their living spaces.
I would expect them to use the A18 and not the A17 pro. Apple usually gives it the newest common A series chip just for cost, and inventory reasons (they at some point want to stop making A15, so this is part of the reason why the update).
I also find it strange the article didn't mention the next chip will have AV1 support, which is very relevant for Apple TV.
I also find it strange the article didn't mention the next chip will have AV1 support, which is very relevant for Apple TV.
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If it indeed has the latest chip and expanded RAM, this will be a day 1 buy for me.
I've never understood the value of upgrades to the Apple TV compared to a smart phone. Even much older WiFi protocols provide enough bandwidth for 4K streaming (25Mbps is standard and 50Mbps is on the high end) and the hardware decoding hasn't changed much, they've been h.265 for years now and Apple doesn't license the good audio formats (the ones they don't use in their streaming). And how much are people really storing on board, a few rentals? Unless someone is doing serious gaming, I don't see the value of more storage or a faster processor. I think most Arcade games are made for the lowest common denominator. If you have an eight year old unit, I get it, but from the last gen to this gen, I don't think you'd even realize any sort of benefit.
I have an M1 Mac mini that runs Plex and it is worlds better than an Apple TV. I have a cheap RAID system that serves up my media. The only thing I can't do is mirror my display to my TV, but I feel the urge to do that about once a year. Plex has an Android app and it puts the load on the server, so any smart TV will work but I use Nvidia Shield TV and a few Fire TVs.
I have an M1 Mac mini that runs Plex and it is worlds better than an Apple TV. I have a cheap RAID system that serves up my media. The only thing I can't do is mirror my display to my TV, but I feel the urge to do that about once a year. Plex has an Android app and it puts the load on the server, so any smart TV will work but I use Nvidia Shield TV and a few Fire TVs.
These are niche use cases. Most TV manufacturers install Roku, FireTV or GoogleTV.
Those that had their own OS have mothballed it, Roku is being replaced with GoogleTV as the default Smart TV OS of choice by many manufacturers and FireTV is just a custom skin of GoogleTV. Amazon is the primary driver for FireTV as TizenOS is for Samsung. In this space the present clear winner is GoogleTV for tv manufacturers and with that comes developer investment.
I am sorry if Apple is unable to innovate in this space why even bother, if a consumer is on a budget and many are, do you think those consumer will opt for a plus $100 set top box from Apple or just use what’s built-in the TV which is GoogleTV with AirPlay included. Many consumer just play mobile games and the built-in hardware spec do a fine job. If anyone is into serious gaming it’s either a dedicated gaming console or a PC, Apple is high on its own smoke and drunk on its own Kool-Aid.
At this point it might as well cut deals with TV manufacturers to have it run TvOS as a form of advertising but Google beat them to the punch.
So you are saying that YouTube, owned by Google, works better on a GoogleTV device than on a third party device? Hmmm....
I have an Intel Core Due mac mini server running plex server on High Sierra. Works fine. I am with you. The idea that AppleTV needs to be so powerful is ludicrous.
Is say it's just taking a page from Apple's playbook (which is fine) except that it runs great on every 3rd party device EXCEPT AppleTV
It overheats when playing Apple Arcade games like Tamagotchi Adventure Kingdom and Puyo Puyo: Puzzle Pop.
And just like in Search, they will soon have a monopoly as Roku has been pushed out of many brands, and it will not be until after the competition is out of business before anything is done about it.
Wouldn't surprise me Google pays the manufacturers to use GTV rather than how Roku gives it almost for free.
Nope it’s the app not the OS, I think it might be related to all the options that YouTube has like play preview, recommendations or whatever. I don’t think YouTube app is optimized unless all of those things are turned-off.
No one should be buying Apple devices if they want a top-notch gaming experience, it's just a case of using the right tool for the job. I made my peace with that long ago
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One would think Apple would release a polished product like Nvidia Shield TV from the start only to be the best for many many years.
I got my 4K Apple TV device years and years ago. There is zero prospect of me upgrading to a newer version as it does its simple read-only job quite well.
But... for all the gadgets Apple tosses in our direction, none would grab my attention more than a sleek Mac mini style powerful gaming machine and controller. OK, you'd need substantial investment in games software, but it strikes me that Apple are missing out. The gaming market is huge. I mean proper photorealistic games. They would make a lot more money out of me than they do with Apple TV+.