Percentages confuse peopleIn 2007 just before iPhone Apple was not in a good shape. The larger MacOS share of revenue was due to missing their largest part of revenue stream. The current “small” share of revenue is a larger number.
Percentages confuse peopleIn 2007 just before iPhone Apple was not in a good shape. The larger MacOS share of revenue was due to missing their largest part of revenue stream. The current “small” share of revenue is a larger number.
I can't speak to the accuracy of the chart, but yep, agree w/pretty much the rest. The bulk of Apple's revenues are from iPhone. Mac revenues are a small % of the whole now and smaller than "Wearables, Home and Accessories" and much smaller than from services. Attached a snippet from https://s2.q4cdn.com/470004039/files/doc_earnings/2024/q3/filing/_10-Q-Q3-2024-As-Filed.pdf page 9 which is their latest quarterly 10-Q report from https://investor.apple.com/sec-filings/default.aspx.I didn't read this gargantuan thread (I used a dictionary for that word) ,
but the OP is right and that is why Steve Jobs was a genius.
Jobs worked via "how can I make this better functionally and more pleasant to the user" . Apple today does not care about MacOS or the user. All the money is in iphone+iOS. MacOS to Apple is like Bing to Microsoft.
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You can see how in 2007 the Mac was 43% of Apple revenue, now accessories like earpods make more money than the mac ( 7.7%). They make money off the hardware , but no innovation or improvements on the OS itself.
Revenue? But how much of that revenue is returned to the Chinese manufacturers and to TSMC?I can't speak to the accuracy of the chart, but yep, agree w/pretty much the rest. The bulk of Apple's revenues are from iPhone. Mac revenues are a small % of the whole now and smaller than "Wearables, Home and Accessories" and much smaller than from services.
In 2007 just before iPhone Apple was not in a good shape. The larger MacOS share of revenue was due to missing their largest part of revenue stream. The current “small” share of revenue is a larger number.
Percentages confuse people
But so is iOS. It’s not exactly cutting edge. It’s more like they’re simply better at hardware.its not about size of revenue, but more about attention dedicated to it. I have yet to see a company that can put dedication to multiple products. There will always be the flagship products, and then side products.
Bing brings Microsoft $12B in revenue, a huge sum of money, but we all know its attention is on Windows/MS Office/ and Azure since they are the biggest money makers.
When it comes to the mac, Apple's innovation attention is directed towards the hardware , M processors and build quality (which is superb btw) but not so much the MacOS itself. MacOS is more on the "If its not broken don't fix it" priority list.
But so is iOS. It’s not exactly cutting edge. It’s more like they’re simply better at hardware.
How can one make innovations on the software, when the OS itself quite old? The same old apps year after year with just some eye candy...People here complain they want innovation on the software side not hardware side.
Off the top of my head:iOS on iPad if you haven't noticed isn't all that great. People here complain they want innovation on the software side not hardware side. As for iPhone you are correct, but currently I hardly see any problem with. It has achieved maturity. maybe you can add or fix few things here or there but it has reached its max as a smartphone OS I think. What more do you want it to do?
I agree, though the first one would be more of a pain for me...it probably would work better on the iPad. The other three are good suggestions IMO.Off the top of my head:
I could go on and on. Basically, a lot of what Android has had for a decade. At least they finally added T9 dialing with iOS18. Hasn’t even been 20 years.
- A proper file system.
- Support for Apple Pencil on the phone.
- The ability to back up purchased apps so they don’t just disappear when you get a new phone and the publisher pulled the app from AppStore.
- Group management in Contacts.
But it seems we’re on the same page - Apple is great at hardware, the software side is good /ok.
How can one make innovations on the software, when the OS itself quite old? The same old apps year after year with just some eye candy...
Off the top of my head:
I could go on and on. Basically, a lot of what Android has had for a decade. At least they finally added T9 dialing with iOS18. Hasn’t even been 20 years.
- A proper file system.
- Support for Apple Pencil on the phone.
- The ability to back up purchased apps so they don’t just disappear when you get a new phone and the publisher pulled the app from AppStore.
- Group management in Contacts.
But it seems we’re on the same page - Apple is great at hardware, the software side is good /ok.
Of course it can evolve, but does it? Except for the eye-candy? The OS doesn't sell, the hardware sells, so the eye-candy. There are some nice features such as trackpad gestures, mouse gestures etc, but the competitors ave them too now. Linux as an OS doesn't sell either, but it evolves...I think the OS itself can "evolve" to improve.
The hardware is tied to the OS, though, so if Apple wants to sell hardware, they better make the OS a value add, not a hindrance.Of course it can evolve, but does it? Except for the eye-candy? The OS doesn't sell, the hardware sells, so the eye-candy. There are some nice features such as trackpad gestures, mouse gestures etc, but the competitors ave them too now. Linux as an OS doesn't sell either, but it evolves...
That I agree, but what to do when there are enough people, who'd buy for the sake of buying?The hardware is tied to the OS, though, so if Apple wants to sell hardware, they better make the OS a value add, not a hindrance.
Of course it can evolve, but does it? Except for the eye-candy? The OS doesn't sell, the hardware sells, so the eye-candy. There are some nice features such as trackpad gestures, mouse gestures etc, but the competitors ave them too now. Linux as an OS doesn't sell either, but it evolves...
If there's enough people who feel that the OS in its current state is good, then there's no incentive to change.That I agree, but what to do when there are enough people, who'd buy for the sake of buying?