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Brian White & Gene Munster are the two anal- ists that have the worst track record on predictions (fact).
 
Since the purchase of WifiSLAM, my thinking has been that Apple intends to expand their reach into some form of home automation, possibly using their new iWatch, the iPhone, etc. In short - your iWatch or iPhone would know when you're in bed, when you're approaching a door, etc.

I think you're over analyzing WifiSlam, they bought them to ensure access to a decent quality wifi location database and the ability to triangulate without GPS therefore saving power on the iPhone.

That's about it.

And really, home automation devices are static, so why would they need WiFislam?
 
Remind me again why we need this?
We don't. But the smartphone industry is scraping the bottom of the innovation barrel and is now trying to sell us a device that saves us the "inconvenience" of reaching into our pocket for something to check the time... which shouldn't even be a problem if you're someone like me who already wears a wrist watch.

Ugh, this whole thing is so stupid...

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U hate the gold??? And Apple is messed up??? While millions love it.

Troll???
Your "macrumors newbie" title is well-earned.
 
The guy is a billionaire from his designs. What have you created that's made you billions?

Hopefully somebody other than Ive is designing them. He's messed up enough Apple products already.

And my god if you're going to make a "gold" product, don't make some ridiculous copout champagne colored gold that isn't even gold at all on the front. Grow a freaking pair and make something bright and glittery enough to do the color justice.
 
Hopefully somebody other than Ive is designing them. He's messed up enough Apple products already.

And my god if you're going to make a "gold" product, don't make some ridiculous copout champagne colored gold that isn't even gold at all on the front. Grow a freaking pair and make something bright and glittery enough to do the color justice.

Sales figures on the gold iPhone seem to counter your opinion...
 
Really hope Apple doesn't mind **** this thing to death like Samsung.
All they need to do is relesae a bluetooth enable wrist display that pair (and is powered by) an iPhone.

Front facing camera w/ iPod Nano sized screen.
Doesn't need storage, an additional camera, processor, ect.
 
The naysayers on this forum never cease to amaze me.

- An iPod phone? Who needs that?
- A giant iPod? Who needs that?
- An iPod Watch? Who needs that?

Im sure those same people both own an iPhone and an iPad. This is what Apple does. Perfect a product, master the "new" category and market the ***** out of it.

You don't realize how much a new product is beneficial until apple releases that polished item in to the market.

If and I mean if Apple really does "screw" up this new iWatch, then I guess I'll be sining a different tune, but their track record says otherwise. Until then, I'd say we all sit back and see what Apple has up its sleeve.
 
be prepared to shell out thousands on controllable accessories

And we could have said the same thing before computers/laptops, cell phones, mp3 players, tablets, smart tvs, etc. As technology advances there will always be something new to buy...

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Great! Now I can control my smoke detector with my watch. It's just like I'm in Back to the Future or something.

You're going to condemn the concept because of the information you read from one highly speculative article?
 
Don't forget, Jobs looked years down the road when it came to technology, people's unknown needs, etc. As well, Apple recently purchased WifiSLAM, a company that specializes in INDOOR triangulation (using wifi and other signals).

Since the purchase of WifiSLAM, my thinking has been that Apple intends to expand their reach into some form of home automation, possibly using their new iWatch, the iPhone, etc. In short - your iWatch or iPhone would know when you're in bed, when you're approaching a door, etc.

An entire in-home (Apple) ecosystem could be on its way. I could really see Jobs envisioning something big like this. Apple is probably the best company to really make something like this work.... and to make it mainstream.

I like the idea of using ibeacons with the iwatch.
 
Remind me again why we need this?

Why would I want internet on my phone?! The screen is tiny and hard to see and I could always just use my computer anyways!! - A guy like you

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The naysayers on this forum never cease to amaze me.

- An iPod phone? Who needs that?
- A giant iPod? Who needs that?
- An iPod Watch? Who needs that?

Im sure those same people both own an iPhone and an iPad. This is what Apple does. Perfect a product, master the "new" category and market the ***** out of it.

You don't realize how much a new product is beneficial until apple releases that polished item in to the market.

If and I mean if Apple really does "screw" up this new iWatch, then I guess I'll be sining a different tune, but their track record says otherwise. Until then, I'd say we all sit back and see what Apple has up its sleeve.

I know, right? They just don't get it. Technology doesn't just stop advancing. There will always be new types of devices.
 
Ive has been responsible for Apple's design since the iMac. I feel like the design awards and sales figures present a powerful argument against what you're trying to say...

I haven't studied and analyzed the design of every single product Ive has ever been a part of for however many years. My argument is, what have you done for me lately? Apple's level of innovation and its hardware and software decisions have basically sucked since Jobs made the mistake of letting Cook take over instead of Forstall, who then got kicked out by Cook and Ive. Apple's stock used to be 700 and now it's under 500, was as low as 385. It started plummeting as soon as they got rid of the so-called problem, Forstall.
 
Not the iWatch...

Well, duh. Which is why the iWatch won't be called an iWatch because it won't be an iWatch. Which makes me wonder why anyone continues to predict an iWatch. Lack of imagination is my best guess.

As the most personal of all the personal devices Apple has yet to offer - one that will track your every movement and action - I predict that it will be called the iAm.
 
And the reason you can't use your laptop, pad, or phone to do these things.....is?

I don't even like the idea of wearing a watch or watch-like thing on my wrist :(
 
I think you're over analyzing WifiSlam, they bought them to ensure access to a decent quality wifi location database and the ability to triangulate without GPS therefore saving power on the iPhone.

That's about it.

Unless you are an "in the know" employee at Apple you can hardly say "that's about it" when it comes to your guess as to Apple's reasons for buying WiFiSlam. At best we are all speculating. You guess one thing.... I guess another.

And really, home automation devices are static, so why would they need WiFislam?

I've already mentioned this in my post. If Apple can create an accurate location for each user / homeowner, the system would know when a user is approaching a door, when a user goes to bed, etc. Security cameras, lighting, music, room-by-room temperature control, & many other things could be controlled or monitored via a user's iWatch, iPhone AND customized based on where the person is within the home. (Such as providing heat/lighting to only the areas of the home that are occupied). In short, home automation devices are NOT static when it comes to the user interface aspect. A user's exact location within a home could be a VERY key ingredient to future home automation. Even a very basic home automation system (entry level cost) could use a user's location for some features.

You could do research on Bill Gate's house in Medina. A key part of his home's automation relates to the movement of people within the home.

You could also research the Savant home system, especially as it relates to iOS user interface options.

Here is a quote from the Savant website: "Apple’s renowned operating system, OS X®, has been the driving force behind every Savant SmartSystem shipped since we first opened our doors. While other competing control companies claim to offer tight interoperability with Apple products, Savant goes beyond just integration. Savant provides a complete home and commercial control, automation and entertainment product line built on an Apple platform, providing users with an unmatched level of responsiveness and a rich line of customizable iOS user interface options."
 
The naysayers on this forum never cease to amaze me.

- An iPod phone? Who needs that?
- A giant iPod? Who needs that?
- An iPod Watch? Who needs that?

Im sure those same people both own an iPhone and an iPad. This is what Apple does. Perfect a product, master the "new" category and market the ***** out of it.

You don't realize how much a new product is beneficial until apple releases that polished item in to the market.

If and I mean if Apple really does "screw" up this new iWatch, then I guess I'll be sining a different tune, but their track record says otherwise. Until then, I'd say we all sit back and see what Apple has up its sleeve.
You are everything wrong with the Apple community. Apple has made some great products in the past, so you immediately assume every new idea they have will be a great success. Will you call the hockey-puck mouse on the first iMac a success? Was Ping a revolution in social media? Are the default earbuds that come with almost every iPod ever made really the best listening system they could ship with their device?

Apple has made mistakes in the past. And so have other companies! I'm not just against the idea of an iWatch, I'm against the entire idea of a "smartwatch;" it is a solution in search of a problem. And if nothing else, smartwatches are the ultimate extension of first-world laziness: you're too lazy to pull your phone out of your pocket to check the time or answer your phone (a process that has worked just fine for DECADES) and instead of getting a regular watch to tell the time you're willing to spend potentially hundreds of dollars on essentially a really crippled smartphone add-on that attaches to your wrist.

And for the record, I DON'T own an iPhone or iPad or any smartphone! I own a very simple $30 Samsung flip-phone (I don't care who made it) and an iPod Touch, both of which provide me with all the entertainment and technology and phone connectivity I need at an average of $25 per month. And I LAUGH most happily at anybody who's wasting their money on an iPhone for $85 per month for the "convenience" of having everything in one device.

TL;DR: get off your high horse, quit kissing Tim Cook's butt, and learn to deal with the fact that not everybody things Apple can do no wrong. :cool:
 
Why would you want one of these when you can get a Rolex?:cool:
 
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You going to look an idiot going out wearing an iWatch and how the hell are you
going read the screen let along trying to use the touch screen as its bad enough on an iPhone.
I hope it doesn't happen.
 
Great! Now I can control my smoke detector with my watch. It's just like I'm in Back to the Future or something.

That would be cool. I have very sensitive hearing. I would love to be able to turn off the smoke alarm from three blocks away as apposed to rushing into the house with a baseball bat to turn it of by imparting significant kinetic force. (Then patching the wall again.)

I think you're over analyzing WifiSlam, they bought them to ensure access to a decent quality wifi location database and the ability to triangulate without GPS therefore saving power on the iPhone.

That's about it.

And really, home automation devices are static, so why would they need WiFislam?

Half of the point is, apps created by outside people. I don't think home automation will be built in. I think, people will write home automation apps for the device. Some will turn off the lights and turn down the heating or A/C when you leave the house and turn them back on when you are near home.

Others may keep track of older people's movement and warn a relative if they stay in one place for too long. (They have fallen and they can't get up.) The best apps are the ones, no one has thought of.


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I plan to get one for my dog. (Even more so, if it lets her turn on the lights when she comes into a room and turn them off when she goes out.) She is a watch dog.
 
You are everything wrong with the Apple community. Apple has made some great products in the past, so you immediately assume every new idea they have will be a great success. Will you call the hockey-puck mouse on the first iMac a success? Was Ping a revolution in social media? Are the default earbuds that come with almost every iPod ever made really the best listening system they could ship with their device?

Apple has made mistakes in the past. And so have other companies! I'm not just against the idea of an iWatch, I'm against the entire idea of a "smartwatch;" it is a solution in search of a problem. And if nothing else, smartwatches are the ultimate extension of first-world laziness: you're too lazy to pull your phone out of your pocket to check the time or answer your phone (a process that has worked just fine for DECADES) and instead of getting a regular watch to tell the time you're willing to spend potentially hundreds of dollars on essentially a really crippled smartphone add-on that attaches to your wrist.

And for the record, I DON'T own an iPhone or iPad or any smartphone! I own a very simple $30 Samsung flip-phone (I don't care who made it) and an iPod Touch, both of which provide me with all the entertainment and technology and phone connectivity[/B] I need at an average of $25 per month. And I LAUGH most happily at anybody who's wasting their money on an iPhone for $85 per month for the "convenience" of having everything in one device.

TL;DR: get off your high horse, quit kissing Tim Cook's butt, and learn to deal with the fact that not everybody things Apple can do no wrong. :cool:

Sorry, I know I shouldn't give in, but this troll looks way too hungry not to eat.

1. I do not assume that every new idea they have will be a success, nor did I say or call everything they've done perfect. What I do assume, based on their track record, since 2007, is that all major product releases have been a success.

2. This is an assumption by you that Apple's iWatch will be very similar to the recently released Samsung smart watch that is a simple extension of their Galaxy phone lines. It's nice to see how you realize what a sloppy product that Galaxy S watch really is. If the iWatch is the same, then you have a very good point and we may have a failed Apple product on our hands. Conversely, I do not feel that is the case, again, based off their previous major product releases since 2007.

3. Congratulations, I am truly happy you've found a solution that works best for you, I really am. However, you may not know this, but your perfect solution may not be the "perfect solution" for everyone else. I co-own a business and run critical tasks from my phone daily on-the-go. Email, web browsing, remote log-ins and specialized apps are just a few of the essential tools my smart phone offers. My smart phone works great for me just as your flip phone works well for you.

4. Wow, openly mocking people for using something they may find invaluable? Now that's classy. I don't know what's worse? The people paying $85 a month for something they utilize or a person who mocks others for doing something differently than them?

5. I don't think praising products like the iPhone and iPad are kissing Tim's ass. If so, he's getting an ass full of kisses from the world. Additionally, I don't think "everybody things Apple can do no wrong." I never stated once that Apple was perfect, nor could they do no wrong. To clarify once again, Apple, since 2007, has not failed to deliver on a major product release. It's plain and simple.

Side note, the fact I even wasted my time responding shows that you won the trolling award of the month, but how could I resist? You're just too good.
 
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Hopefully somebody other than Ive is designing them. He's messed up enough Apple products already.

And my god if you're going to make a "gold" product, don't make some ridiculous copout champagne colored gold that isn't even gold at all on the front. Grow a freaking pair and make something bright and glittery enough to do the color justice.

The more I read these kind of comments....the more I love my dog

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You going to look an idiot going out wearing an iWatch and how the hell are you
going read the screen let along trying to use the touch screen as its bad enough on an iPhone.
I hope it doesn't happen.

Just after the last research shows that the iPhone has the best touch screen, an unknown Kiwi tells us otherwise. Who to believe?

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Sorry, I know I shouldn't give in, but this troll looks way too hungry not to eat.

1. I do not assume that every new idea they have will be a success, nor did I say or call everything they've done perfect. What I do assume, based on their track record, since 2007, all major product releases have been a success.

2. This is an assumption by you that Apple's iWatch will be very similar to the recently released Samsung smart watch that is a simple extension of their Galaxy phone lines. It's nice to see how you realize what a sloppy product that Galaxy S watch really is. If the iWatch is the same, then you have a very good point and we may have a failed Apple product on our hands, but I do not feel that is the case, again based off their previous major product releases since 2007.

3. Congratulations, I am truly happy you've found a solution that works best for you, I really am. However, you may not know this, but your perfect solution may not be the "perfect solution" for everyone else. I co-own a business and run critical tasks from my phone daily on-the-go. Email, web browsing, remote log-ins and specialized apps are just a few of the essential tools my smart phone offers. Works great for me just as your smart phone works for you.

4. Wow, openly mocking people for using something they may find invaluable? Now that's classy. I don't know what's worse? The people paying $85 a month for something they utilize or a person who mocks others for doing something differently than them?

5. I don't think praising products like the iPhone and iPad are kissing Tim's ass. If so, he's getting an ass full of kisses from the world. Additionally, I don't think "everybody things Apple can do no wrong." I never stated once Apple was perfect nor could they do nor wrong. To clarify once again, Apple since 2007 has not failed to deliver on a major product release. It's plain and simple.

Side note, the fact I even wasted my time responding shows that you won the trolling award of the month, but how could I resist? You're just too good.

Don't feed the troll....
 
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