Analyst Claims 3 Million CDMA iPhones Set for December Manufacturing Run

[spillproof]

It will be interesting to see how many people actually jump to Verizon or other CDMA based company.

I just want my dang white iPhone 4 lol

 

[scades]

Why January?

Why January? Most obvious reasons are that 1) That's the earliest time possible after Apple/VZ negotiations were completed, or 2) Actually, given ATT's start-up problems with the original iPhone, a non-holiday introduction might be a whole lot smoother. True, a high-volume December start-up might jazz up investors, but does either company want to deal with an avalanche of user complaints and frustrations?

 

[kdarling]

It doesnt make sense for Verizon to get the iPhone. They are moving to an LTE network (Like AT&T), which is based on GSM Technology.

LTE is not based on GPRS-TDMA or UMTS-WCDMA, and is not backward compatible with anything. It uses a new air interface, different controllers and backend systems. It can be tacked onto both GSM or CDMA2000 legacy networks.

For their iPhone to work, and be able to roam the USA, it would need to be able to fall back on CDMA, which means the iPhone would need to be dual-band.

Yes, for the iPhone to work on LTE anywhere in the USA for the next few years, it would have to have fall-back CDMA and/or GSM radios.

Also, if the iPhone was dual band, and fell back onto a CDMA network outside of an LTE zone, it would be UNABLE to do simultaneous voice and data;

Yes, just like the original iPhone, or any subsequent iPhone outside of 3G coverage.

Not to mention the iPhone would quickly need to be replaced if it was not dual band, and strictly CDMA, once they went to an entirely LTE (GSM) network.

Which will take at least another ten years to happen, same as with ATT. Neither carrier is going to throw away perfectly good networks for no good reason. Most people still use dumbphones, for instance, plus there are tons of embedded apps like ATMs and meters that use the older cell protocols.

And again, LTE is not limited to GSM.

 

[AidenShaw]

Vodafone's networks use GSM and WCDMA exclusively. Owning shares in Verizon does not change that.

"Owning shares" could be two shares.

"Vodafone America" is their 45% stake in VerizonWireless as one of the two partners.

It's hard to justify "Vodafone and they use GSM exclusively" when Vodafone owns 45% of VerizonWireless. Really hard to defend. Really, really hard.

 

[Freshmixture]

My 2 cents:

-I can totally see a dual band Verizon iPhone (CDMA only makes zero sense)

-I can see a Apple announcement in January.....but NOT going on sale then

-I'm seeing a ton of "Who will defect from AT&T to another carrier once the iPhone goes to more carriers" polls.....

-Where are all the "How many Verizon customers will get the iPhone" polls

-Verizon's new CEO taking over on Oct 1st is great news for a future Verizon iPhone.....they won't make the same mistake twice.

-I believe once the iPhone comes to Verizon.....the whole Android thing will be silenced

Finally,

-I will be one of the fools in line one week before the iPhone goes on sale for Verizon (my contract falls due in Dec 2010.....I'm in such a good position if there is an announcement in Jan 2011....)

 

[Zepaw]

I am on a prepaid phone. I would go to ATT for iPhone but I have little to no coverage. Verizon is all around me so I would gladly jump to a Verizon iPhone if I get the chance.

My free case from the program arrived yesterday even though I returned it in the 30 day trial period. If it is the same fit I have a case ready for January.

 

[Evo-L]

LTE is not based on GPRS-TDMA or UMTS-WCDMA, and is not backward compatible with anything. It uses a new air interface, different controllers and backend systems. It can be tacked onto both GSM or CDMA2000 legacy networks.



Yes, for the iPhone to work on LTE anywhere in the USA for the next few years, it would have to have fall-back CDMA and/or GSM radios.



Yes, just like the original iPhone, or any subsequent iPhone outside of 3G coverage.



Which will take at least another ten years to happen, same as with ATT. Neither carrier is going to throw away perfectly good networks for no good reason. Most people still use dumbphones, for instance, plus there are tons of embedded apps like ATMs and meters that use the older cell protocols.

And again, LTE is not limited to GSM.

Really? LTE is a term used for the future of wireless technology. Verizon is not sticking with their CDMA system, they are moving on. Maybe Chinas version of LTE will be based on CDMA, I dont know, who cares?

HSPA+ isnt an LTE technology?

 

[carlgo]

Why is VERIZON USING OLD CDMA Technology? While the entire world uses GSM?

You forgot to add the talking point of simultaneous data and voice. Jeez, how many times have you been told....

Try to remember what you were told about getting into technical discussions about what CDMA, GSM, etc. all really means.

And when someone asks why, if the technology is old, can I make a phone call on V and not on ATT, simply repeat the talking points provided to you.

 

[kdarling]

HSPA+ isnt an LTE technology?

HSPA is a technical evolution of WCDMA (UMTS-3G) technology.

LTE is a different, unrelated technology. It is called an "Evolution" (or sometimes sillier, a "natural evolution") for marketing reasons, not because it derives from, or is backwards compatible, with anything else.

When added onto a legacy UMTS network, it's sometimes called UMTS-LTE, but has no backwards relationship to UMTS-3G other than the umbrella name.

 

[MorphingDragon]

"Owning shares" could be two shares.

"Vodafone America" is their 45% stake in VerizonWireless as one of the two partners.

It's hard to justify "Vodafone and they use GSM exclusively" when Vodafone owns 45% of VerizonWireless. Really hard to defend. Really, really hard.

Vodafone's own networks use GSM exclusively.

But then someone with such a high quality of english comprehension such as yourself must know what "own" in this context must mean.