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Analyst Claims 3 Million CDMA iPhones Set for December Manufacturing Run
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CDMA iPhones could be for China Telecom
Then again, China Telecom runs CDMA, they have 80 million subscribers, and iPhone 4 has just been approved for sale in China. China Telecom is the #2 cell provider in China. It's too big to ignore.
Then again, China Telecom runs CDMA, they have 80 million subscribers, and iPhone 4 has just been approved for sale in China. China Telecom is the #2 cell provider in China. It's too big to ignore.
If you post, you should actually know what you're talking aboot
I'm not sure I've seen a post so aggressively wrong...
You yourself have a plethora of facts wrong. Here, let me help you.
It's not related to either. FYI, no quotation marks needed.
No, the network stack is NOT based on GSM. Thanks for playing though.
Your confusion comes from the fact that the same standards body that worked on GSM, EDGE and UMTS came up with LTE. But that's it.
Again, it's not really an evolution. They call it that, but "truth squads" aren't really about truth either. LTE is a brand new architecture and brand new air interface which is not backwards compatible with anything.
Well, no. You see, since LTE isn't backwards compatible with anything, you can have any fallback that you want. GSM, CDMA, makes no difference.
Incorrect. There are several very large CDMA carriers (all with more subscriber that the total population of Canada, eh) outside of the US that will be using CDMA as their fallback network. Again, UMTS/HSPA gives no advantage at all for fallback.
Do you just make stuff up when you post?
FYI, I work in wireless telecom and directly on LTE, CDMA and UMTS. I have first-hand knowledge of which I speak.
I'm not sure I've seen a post so aggressively wrong...
You yourself have a plethora of facts wrong. Here, let me help you.
It's not related to either. FYI, no quotation marks needed.
No, the network stack is NOT based on GSM. Thanks for playing though.
Your confusion comes from the fact that the same standards body that worked on GSM, EDGE and UMTS came up with LTE. But that's it.
Again, it's not really an evolution. They call it that, but "truth squads" aren't really about truth either. LTE is a brand new architecture and brand new air interface which is not backwards compatible with anything.
Well, no. You see, since LTE isn't backwards compatible with anything, you can have any fallback that you want. GSM, CDMA, makes no difference.
Incorrect. There are several very large CDMA carriers (all with more subscriber that the total population of Canada, eh) outside of the US that will be using CDMA as their fallback network. Again, UMTS/HSPA gives no advantage at all for fallback.
Do you just make stuff up when you post?
FYI, I work in wireless telecom and directly on LTE, CDMA and UMTS. I have first-hand knowledge of which I speak.
that being said can CDMA phones be jb'd and then put on to other networks? just wondering...i am not planning on jumping ship ever.
Not really. I used the 20mb package while spending 10 days traveling europe this year. I used pretty much all of it though. $25 isn't outrageous for 10 days. I just had to make sure to turn off roaming when I didn't need to look stuff up.
Someone suggested that you buy a prepaid sim card for $15 over there and just use that. Dunno which is the better value in the long run.. Maybe I'll do the sim card next time.
My guess is he's referring to the GSM MAP core which is largely the same in UMTS. Of course, that ain't the case with LTE...
Seriously? It's one thing to hate on Verizon or Sprint, but personal attacks aren't really warranted.
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Validas, a company that analyzes cell phone bills and usage for consumers and corporate customers, analyzed 20,000 consumer phone bills between January and May of 2010 and discovered that Verizon Wireless smartphone customers consume on average about 421 megabytes per month. Meanwhile, AT&T iPhone users consume roughly 25 percent less data, or about 338 megabytes per month.
20,000 sample of ~50 million. Someone wanna do the math on that sample size. Not to mention where the data came from, phone bills. You have to question the way/where it was sampled.
I've never seen CDMA all across Europe. Only LTE test networks in Scandinavia.
CDMA2000 networks.
Eastern Europe -> No money, all broke.
Black Africa -> No money, all broke.
Most Asia -> No money, all broke.
It's basically Verizon-only. If AT&T wouldn't be so bad, there were no need for a Verizon-iPhone. I have 99% coverage with T-Mobile Germany, as well as TIM Italy.
just release it already. its a win win for me. A) i get a new phone and get rid of my crappy bb storm. b) Verizon stock will go up. It will be a good holiday season for me 
How come everyone's assuming the chips will be used in an iPhone? Isn't it more likely that (with Apple's timing of product releases) the new non-wifi iPads would have the CDMA chips?
CITATION NEEDED. POST LINKS proving me wrong. If you are so certain that you are right and I am wrong then why don't you go ahead and edit the Wikipedia pages. Oh wait, you are just either a Verizon fanboy or an employee of VZW. Wake me up when VZW implements an "OPEN" implementation of Assisted GPS which is open to third party navigation apps and wake me up when they finally abandon CDMA.
Here is how the evolution of standards went.
CDMA:
CDMA (1G)
CDMA2000 EVDO (2G)
GSM:
GPRS (1G)
Edge (2G)
UMTS/HSPA (3G)
HSUPA (3G)
HSPA+ (3G+)
LTE (4G or 3.9G)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System
I have used by 3GS iPhone on networks in the US for voice including AT&T and T-Mobile and on NTT DoComo in Japan earlier this year. In previous years, I have used my iPhone 3G/3GS in the states and across Europe. Have you even left the US and roamed on GSM networks? Are you even aware of what standard is used elsewhere?
LTE is the "EVOLUTION" of UMTS. If it was a new standard unrelated to UMTS then it would not be called Long Term Evolution.
because some people have been waiting for a CMDA iphone since 2008. And they dont want to wait to Q4 of 2011, they want one ASAP!
I've asked this once and didn't get an answer, so I'll try again.
With the Droid X, Droid Incredible, Droid, Droid 2, Samung Fascinate--why do people seem so content in thinking that an iPhone will clog up the network?
How can the network survive 5 (if not more) very heavy data-using phones, yet people claim that the introduction of one phone is going to slow the network down beyond belief?
I just don't get it.
because none of these phones are as big as the iphone, and people with iphones use data more because its easier.
My math says that 20K is a huge sample. As long as it's a randomized sample, 20K should be fine. On the other hand, if it's 20K employees of IBM there would be some bias involved.
I can't think of a better place to look for 3g bandwidth usage than to look at phone bills. I see stats for my 3G phone and laptops with builtin EVDO cards.
Read more.... http://blog.myvalidas.com/
So the iphone production would double from this quarter to the next? Is that analysis really sound? So far with the earlier models the production level has stayed pretty much the same throughout the product life, Foxconn just last week or so announced that not only that they have capacity for about 12.5m iphones / quarter but also that the extra capacity would require specialized (costly) machinery. So where exactly would that extra capacity for next quarter come from?
Lte+cdma
Hello,
Is it crazy to believe that if a Verizon Iphone comes to fruition that it would come with backwards compatibility? IMHO it seems unlikely for any company to release a strictly LTE phone since most users will travel into areas that will not have upgraded to LTE and thus CDMA will need to be used.
It also seems to me that it would be in the best interest of Apple to provide more options for customers. Verizon will be first to release LTE and thus would allow for more bandwidth hungry apps. For example wouldn't Facetime run much smoother and have the possibility to run OTA much sooner than 3G? I understand that Facetime isn't allowed over 3g(AT&T) because of fear of even more network congestion.
This is just my opinion and nowhere near facts. The day that the Iphone does come to Verizon will be the day that I drop my Droid phone.
Hello,
Is it crazy to believe that if a Verizon Iphone comes to fruition that it would come with backwards compatibility? IMHO it seems unlikely for any company to release a strictly LTE phone since most users will travel into areas that will not have upgraded to LTE and thus CDMA will need to be used.
It also seems to me that it would be in the best interest of Apple to provide more options for customers. Verizon will be first to release LTE and thus would allow for more bandwidth hungry apps. For example wouldn't Facetime run much smoother and have the possibility to run OTA much sooner than 3G? I understand that Facetime isn't allowed over 3g(AT&T) because of fear of even more network congestion.
This is just my opinion and nowhere near facts. The day that the Iphone does come to Verizon will be the day that I drop my Droid phone.
I see the unicorns are working overtime. I can hardly believe people fall for these rumors time and time again. Guess most of you guys would just believe anything you hear.
. I can hardly believe people fall for these rumors time and time again. Guess most of you guys would just believe anything you hear.
It also seems to me that it would be in the best interest of Apple to provide more options for customers. Verizon will be first to release LTE and thus would allow for more bandwidth hungry apps. For example wouldn't Facetime run much smoother and have the possibility to run OTA much sooner than 3G? I understand that Facetime isn't allowed over 3g(AT&T) because of fear of even more network congestion.
This is just my opinion and nowhere near facts. The day that the Iphone does come to Verizon will be the day that I drop my Droid phone.
Actually that's incorrect because facetime uses Wi-fi on other providers in europe as well.
Quite honestly i wouldn't switch to Verizon because my AT&T service works really good. On the other hand verizon doesn't work for me. Also i'm pretty sure that verizon will charge an arm and a leg for data which will most likely be tiered. I really honestly don't see people who have unlimited data with AT&T grandfathered to Verizon where they will pay out the ass for data.
The grass does not appear to be greener on big reds side of things
The more I see rumors the more skeptical I get. I'm to the point that I don't think we'll ever see a Verizon iPhone. Besides, why would Apple waste their time developing a CDMA phone for Verizon when Verizon is set to roll out their LTE network? It's more likely they are preparing for a wave of sales in China, which also uses CDMA.
Man some of you guys are worse than Apple haters on BGR.
Why wouldn't they release an iPhone in Jan and then release the iPhone 5 in the summer? Think about any other Apple device. They get updated so fast to keep their customers always wanting more. Every consumer has unlimited wants with limited resources.
LTE wont be the main source for quite some time.
Why wouldn't they release an iPhone in Jan and then release the iPhone 5 in the summer? Think about any other Apple device. They get updated so fast to keep their customers always wanting more. Every consumer has unlimited wants with limited resources.
LTE wont be the main source for quite some time.
Im sorry but do you think Verizons CDMA network is being replaced by LTE?
do you think that on the day LTE is available all current Verizon customers will have to throw away their cellphones and buy a new one?
CDMA will still be used for voice on Verizon for about 8 more years (as it works extremely well and has great coverage)
LTE will slowly replace Verizons 3G (EV-DO) network for data over the next 1-3 years or so
so releasing a CDMA/3G iPhone now would be way less ridiculous than when Apple released a non 3G iPhone on AT&T when 3G was already available