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While I'm glad that higher resolution is finally the "next big thing" and not the lame 3D glasses that everyone was trying to sell for the past several years; what kind of options will there be for 4k content delivery.

I'm fairly picky about what I watch on my current, 58" Plasma and hate to see the play-doh like compression artifacts that cable TV often hands me during sports and other shows with lots of movement, and that's just at 1080i/p. Is 4k even going to be offered by any of the providers soon?

I know I've heard that the Sony and Netflix are considering it, but with a lot of broadband providers capping downloads, will we start bumping into those?

Is Blu-Ray going to be able to have enough headroom for the high quality, 4k bit-rates?

So many questions!

Yes, I spoke with a sr network engineer at Google. He installs wiring/switches for Google Fiber. Kansas City metro area is rapidly growing the Google Fiber network and will be able to support 4K streams. Now its up to the networks to provide those streams.

He has a prototype box at his house with a 4k tv. The stream is pushed from GF Ops Center in KC. It's amazing picture quality. Looking at over $150/mo probably for TV and Internet.

The box supports 4k, has built in apps from Google, Google Play, Netflix, Amazon Video, Hulu, etc.
 
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It is that time of year again, another round of Apple branded TV's. Yes they are coming middle of next year . . . or the year after, or the year after, or the year after. I think this is the fourth season of the Apple branded TV predictions.
 
It's a good thing I'm a plasma guy ;)

That little money for a 4K TV? Yeah right!

Besides, 4K is a scam.....don't buy into it. Unless you need a TV that's 70" or more, there's no value. Your eyes can't see the difference at normal viewing distances. I don't know about you, but I'm not watching my 60" 1080p plasma from 3' away and complaining I can see the pixels :rolleyes:
 
I highly doubt any of this is true, 4K will not be that cheap for those sizes at all by the end of next year, at least not on any decent quality displays.

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It's a good thing I'm a plasma guy ;)

That little money for a 4K TV? Yeah right!

Besides, 4K is a scam.....don't buy into it. Unless you need a TV that's 70" or more, there's no value. Your eyes can't see the difference at normal viewing distances. I don't know about you, but I'm not watching my 60" 1080p plasma from 3' away and complaining I can see the pixels :rolleyes:

Have you seen a 4K TV yet? I am a die hard plasma guy too, love my Panasonic Plasma's, have owned 4 of them. But the moment I can get a good quality 4K TV at 60" for around 2000 dollars I am sold! hopefully by then there will be some 4K Blu-Ray's coming out, I know they have a spec for it.. just a matter of time :) That said, 4K is simply amazing to see in person you really ought to see it.
 
every year its the same old *****.
"Apple to release TV in Q4 2012"
"Apple to release TV by XMAS"
"Apple to release TV next month?"

blah blah blah. Same old ***** we hear every few months.
 
I highly doubt any of this is true, 4K will not be that cheap for those sizes at all by the end of next year, at least not on any decent quality displays.

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Have you seen a 4K TV yet? I am a die hard plasma guy too, love my Panasonic Plasma's, have owned 4 of them. But the moment I can get a good quality 4K TV at 60" for around 2000 dollars I am sold! hopefully by then there will be some 4K Blu-Ray's coming out, I know they have a spec for it.. just a matter of time :) That said, 4K is simply amazing to see in person you really ought to see it.


I see it practically everyday as I work in the CE business. I'm personally not sold, at all. Honestly, neither are the professionals who have to market and sell them. It's just a way for manufacturers to make more money. Scam related it's right there next to 3D.
 
Sooooo....some number of things might happen at some point in the future, gotcha. Hey, as long as we're making things up, why not just make it a 100" 16K display for $500?
 
I just don't see Apple getting into the TV display business. I think the whole talk of ATV is more direct to a box/UI/Content distribution than actually a television per se.
I could be wrong but this Apple television talk I have been hearing since 2005 and so far nothing.
 
I highly doubt any of this is true, 4K will not be that cheap for those sizes at all by the end of next year, at least not on any decent quality displays.

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Have you seen a 4K TV yet? I am a die hard plasma guy too, love my Panasonic Plasma's, have owned 4 of them. But the moment I can get a good quality 4K TV at 60" for around 2000 dollars I am sold! hopefully by then there will be some 4K Blu-Ray's coming out, I know they have a spec for it.. just a matter of time :) That said, 4K is simply amazing to see in person you really ought to see it.
Yes, 4K TVs are pretty awesome.

I'll assume that $1,500-2,500 is material cost.
 
What's the point of getting in the low margin business of TVs? They're already simple enough to use. People don't need fancy software for him.
 
Besides trying to play 4k content on youtube is bad enough with Time Warner Cable throttling it. I don't see much else in content delivery besides physical media via blu-ray.
 
While I'm glad that higher resolution is finally the "next big thing" and not the lame 3D glasses that everyone was trying to sell for the past several years; what kind of options will there be for 4k content delivery.

I'm fairly picky about what I watch on my current, 58" Plasma and hate to see the play-doh like compression artifacts that cable TV often hands me during sports and other shows with lots of movement, and that's just at 1080i/p. Is 4k even going to be offered by any of the providers soon?

I know I've heard that the Sony and Netflix are considering it, but with a lot of broadband providers capping downloads, will we start bumping into those?

Is Blu-Ray going to be able to have enough headroom for the high quality, 4k bit-rates?

So many questions!

Good questions. What's the point of ultra high def when so little material is available in HD more than a decade after it was introduced as the new "standard?"
 
TVs are boring. Probably it will be something between a Kinect and an Apple TV packed into a 4K IPS panel. Boring.
 
Looks like the guy is missing a zero at the end of those prices..
 
Year away.

TV Business is cut throat.

Will there really be any difference compared to the few hundred other TV's that will be basically the same thing?

Yawn.

Yawn again.

I'm diagnosing you with aortic dissection:

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every year its the same old *****.
"Apple to release TV in Q4 2012"
"Apple to release TV by XMAS"
"Apple to release TV next month?"

blah blah blah. Same old ***** we hear every few months.

That's because it's this type of behavior that's baked into Apples DNA. The main difference at this point, is they no longer have a charismatic pitchman to whip the crowd into a feeding frenzy. Yet many of their customers emotional attachment still carries on. As long as that continues the fat profits will to.
 
While I'm glad that higher resolution is finally the "next big thing" and not the lame 3D glasses that everyone was trying to sell for the past several years; what kind of options will there be for 4k content delivery.

I'm fairly picky about what I watch on my current, 58" Plasma and hate to see the play-doh like compression artifacts that cable TV often hands me during sports and other shows with lots of movement, and that's just at 1080i/p. Is 4k even going to be offered by any of the providers soon?

I know I've heard that the Sony and Netflix are considering it, but with a lot of broadband providers capping downloads, will we start bumping into those?

Is Blu-Ray going to be able to have enough headroom for the high quality, 4k bit-rates?

So many questions!

Personally I am not looking forward to what 4k may do to the plasma market. I do not wanna see the plasma market killed. As far as I am aware pixel density at the 4k level is no possible with current plasma technology. I would make rather have the much better contrast, colors, and view angles of plasma over a 4k LCD (led) set.
 
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