Early adopter tax for 4K is going to be a b!+ch, but It will be awesome in the long run. I still think anything below 60" isn't really worth it. I have a 100" projection setup, and I could use 4K, but 65" is pushing it IMO. I'm interested to see when studios release 4K material, and if/when broadcasters will ever switch to 4K. Some places just switched to HD, so I can't imagine them shelling out more money to broadcast in 4K. Maybe Apple can help get the ball rolling somehow.
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Analyst Claims Apple Launching 55- and 65-Inch 4K Televisions Late Next Year
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you will be able to play angry birds immediately using your already owned app and your iphone/ipad as the controller. sure, you can play it now on a Samsung TV, navigating some ****** interface with your old fashioned remote control. who does that?
All this commends, a zillion of them asking about"where is the 4K content?" Don't any of these people own cameras?
I'm looking at 4K TV sets and thinking that finally I can have something that looks almost as good as projected 35mm Kodachrome slides. I know that my 1080p TV set is not even close
I remeber making some experimental multiscreen shows in school. We'd put movie film on the center screen and slide projectors on adjactent screens so that only the center moved. I could make something like that with my 1080 video camera and SLR and composite it into one 4K video file.
Now I want 8K and 100 inch screens
Why did everyone buy that 12 megapixel camera? So you could display the image on a 1 megapixel cell phone screen?
I'm looking at 4K TV sets and thinking that finally I can have something that looks almost as good as projected 35mm Kodachrome slides. I know that my 1080p TV set is not even close
I remeber making some experimental multiscreen shows in school. We'd put movie film on the center screen and slide projectors on adjactent screens so that only the center moved. I could make something like that with my 1080 video camera and SLR and composite it into one 4K video file.
Now I want 8K and 100 inch screens
Why did everyone buy that 12 megapixel camera? So you could display the image on a 1 megapixel cell phone screen?
I really don't see this happening. The cost of a 4k set is huge, let alone something in the > 55 inch range. TV's are supposed to last decades. Mavericks is the last upgrade my 2009 MBP will be eligible for. That's 4 years. So by that standard, one can expect a similar time frame for these systems. So while the TV itself might last more than a decade, the same can't be said for the software. I hope Apple will still offer the little black box for the 99%.
I think if Apple finally does sell a television set, it would have the following:
1. It would be in three sizes: 55", 65" and 75".
2. May likely use the Sharp-developed IGZO flat panel technology with 3840x2160 (Ultra HD) resolution.
3. Will sport HDMI 2.0 inputs.
4. Built-in 802.11b/g/n/ac 2.4 and 5 GHz Wi-Fi support.
5. Full Apple TV functionality, plus extensions to the Apple TV software to control set top boxes provided by cable or satellite TV company or third-party DVR's such as a TiVo or Moxi unit. May also control Blu-ray disc player with appropriate control codes.
It won't be cheap, but its ability to find program across cable/satellite TV channels or online streaming sources will be unmatched.
1. It would be in three sizes: 55", 65" and 75".
2. May likely use the Sharp-developed IGZO flat panel technology with 3840x2160 (Ultra HD) resolution.
3. Will sport HDMI 2.0 inputs.
4. Built-in 802.11b/g/n/ac 2.4 and 5 GHz Wi-Fi support.
5. Full Apple TV functionality, plus extensions to the Apple TV software to control set top boxes provided by cable or satellite TV company or third-party DVR's such as a TiVo or Moxi unit. May also control Blu-ray disc player with appropriate control codes.
It won't be cheap, but its ability to find program across cable/satellite TV channels or online streaming sources will be unmatched.
I highly doubt any of this is true, 4K will not be that cheap for those sizes at all by the end of next year, at least not on any decent quality displays.
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Have you seen a 4K TV yet? I am a die hard plasma guy too, love my Panasonic Plasma's, have owned 4 of them. But the moment I can get a good quality 4K TV at 60" for around 2000 dollars I am sold! hopefully by then there will be some 4K Blu-Ray's coming out, I know they have a spec for it.. just a matter of timeThat said, 4K is simply amazing to see in person you really ought to see it.
Think again. 4k is already below 1k for 55". If the big tv makers push for 4k this holiday season as planned, we will see good quality 70" 4k for $2k next year. You'll also have to abandon plasma for 4k. Plasma can't cut it when it comes to that many pixels.
It's really a matter of perspective or rather, viewing distance. In a small apartment, people cannot sit further away from their sets more than about 8 feet. So while a 60" 1080p set would show its weakness, a 4k would be perfect. The switch to 4k won't happen the broadcast side for at least 5 years. However, on the internet data stream side, you only need about about 20MB/sec and no need to build all new infrastructure. There's no reason Apple cannot continue to build up Apple TV channels and offerings so they can flip the 4k switch about a year from now for all of those who can afford the Apple 4k set and broadband speeds that can handle it.
Makes no sense. I think Apple would enter a mature market only if they had something strong enough to shake it up, and they could milk that lead for 3 - 5 years. Entering such a mature market like TV with what, a higher resolution screen (that almost all tv makers already produce), with a built in apple TV, gives them what. More streamlined without needing the extra box? High resolution screen at cheaper than competitors? Unless Apple struck major deals with TV providers and movie studios, including non US countries, this is nothign more than another cheap LCD TV set. And yet someone is claiming Apple is doing one, and keeping a straight face?
The 720p set I bought nearly ten years ago seems to be totally future proofed. It will probably wear out long before SD programming disappears. So already we are talking about the next generation of programming? Seriously, I don't get it.
Seems like the equivalent of allowing TelCo provider apps on an iphone. Would give a super fragmented product base, depending on what country you live in, what provider you have (if any), what DVR you have (if people have those).
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Are you visitng from the 1980s?
The price is way off.
Also the biggest question is will is be OLED or just LCD. My guess is LCD. Also will it have built in 3D ? It should support it.
Also the texh, LG panels are ok but not the best and Samsung can be hit or miss with tv's. There are so many questions on this tv. The top software wise being what the calibration controls will be like. Apple doesnt like letting people in to its software but iF I cant calibrate the tv then I cant buy it as this premium product will never look as good as it could.
Also the biggest question is will is be OLED or just LCD. My guess is LCD. Also will it have built in 3D ? It should support it.
Also the texh, LG panels are ok but not the best and Samsung can be hit or miss with tv's. There are so many questions on this tv. The top software wise being what the calibration controls will be like. Apple doesnt like letting people in to its software but iF I cant calibrate the tv then I cant buy it as this premium product will never look as good as it could.
A 55" LG 4k TV alone already costs $4500. There's no way Apple will be able to release a similarly specced TV with built-in Apple hardware for a third of that price.
Actually plasma can cut it at that. Infact last yearat IFA, Panasonic had a 8K plasma. Wasnt for general sale but was technically possible just stupidly expensive.
The reason you wont see 4k plasmas or Panasonic tv's soon is the tv market is a mugs game and companies lose money on tv's as they cost far more to make than people will pay for them.
The only company I believe who last year made a profit on tv's was LG.
I will NEVER buy an Apple TV set for the same reason I will never buy an iMac. I don't like "all in one" designs that couple a display to the computing functionality. If one fails the whole thing is kaput. I prefer a "component" approach as it provides more freedom of choice. I like the existing hockey puck Apple TV idea a LOT better. I use mine all the time. I only wish they would expand the functionality and free up the things you do with THAT.
So we will have these nifty ultra high def tvs and what will air on them?
Let's see DVDs - some look like video tape of a tv screen and some look great for their resolution.
Let's see Blu Ray - some look worse than quality DVD and some look quite brilliant and do justice to the films that were in the theaters.
Now we have 4k TVs and absolutely still no standards on transfers of movie medium to disc or stream. Until the greedy bastids that forced HDMI standards and the like on us (studios etc.) get their act together and force a quality standard on media there is no point going further given just how rotten the industry is today. - Oh let's not forget Sony doing a Beta video scheme on us with their proprietary 4k crap also. I just hope people will be far more demanding on media quality and not be just "gotta have the latest" lemmings.
Let's see DVDs - some look like video tape of a tv screen and some look great for their resolution.
Let's see Blu Ray - some look worse than quality DVD and some look quite brilliant and do justice to the films that were in the theaters.
Now we have 4k TVs and absolutely still no standards on transfers of movie medium to disc or stream. Until the greedy bastids that forced HDMI standards and the like on us (studios etc.) get their act together and force a quality standard on media there is no point going further given just how rotten the industry is today. - Oh let's not forget Sony doing a Beta video scheme on us with their proprietary 4k crap also. I just hope people will be far more demanding on media quality and not be just "gotta have the latest" lemmings.
ha!
Yours will probably be the most accurate.
Here are the problems for Apple jumping in in the next few years:
1- too fragmented, too many competitors for
2- a market with quickly dropping prices where
3- Apple has little ability to demonstrate its premium quality
As the price of these TVs quickly drops, early market leaders are losing money. Furthermore what separates a Sony TV from a bargain brand is the internal parts that Apple neither has expertise in nor would Apple even make.
Apple is great with building hardware and software to harmonize with a user in a tactile way (iPads, Magic Mouse for iMacs, etc) I sit 2 feet away from my iMac screen but "my chair" is about 14-15' from my TV. There's too much separation between me and the TV for me to want it more or less just because Apple made it. I interact with my iMac but I watch my TV. One is a 1-way relationship the other is 2-way. I would rather Apple devote resources to the Mac and to iWork than to an Apple-branded TV.
Well, Apple already have a 3k Display in a 15" laptop.
55 inch HD televisions are already under $800.
4K only has twice as many pixels horizontally as HD.
Unlike other TV manufacturers which only make money once from a hardware sale, Apple will build in iTunes and make money from Games, Movies, Music, TV etc. for the life of the television.
If they're going to do this Apple will need to be in the ball park on price if they are going to do this, otherwise people will buy a cheaper Samsung Smart TV and a $99 Apple TV.
$1500-$2500 seems about right.