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Analyst Predictions for 2010 iPhone: 70% Chance of Verizon, Battery Improvements, RFID
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Choice is Good
...but would I leave AT&T for...
Verizon: Higher costs, rigid control, pay extra for Visual Voice Mail, unlimited data plan that is actually capped at 5GB/Mo, no concurrent voice/data. Nah.
T-Mobile: Even worse 3G coverage. Nah.
However, it makes sense for Apple to pick T-Mobile next.
...but would I leave AT&T for...
Verizon: Higher costs, rigid control, pay extra for Visual Voice Mail, unlimited data plan that is actually capped at 5GB/Mo, no concurrent voice/data. Nah.
T-Mobile: Even worse 3G coverage. Nah.
However, it makes sense for Apple to pick T-Mobile next.
It's your decision whether or not to break Apple's EULA, but its not illegal at all. You bought it; you can do what you want with it.
EDIT: Just to clarify, jailbreaking an iPhone creates a voidable contract for both Apple and AT&T, but not you. So AT&T can deny you service, and Apple can deny you warranty service. But unless you actually use it for illegal activities, they won't have anything on you other than the termination fee you initially agreed to.
iPhone won't be on Verizon because Verizon uses outdated CDMA technology, while most of the world moved to GSM.
What everyone keeps forgetting is Verizon has there own app store... I don't see them ever allowing people to use iTunes or the Apple app store on there network.
With that said I will be switching to Verizon when my contract expires next year. I love the iPhone, but my wife is on call for her job and AT&T just isn't cutting it... she can't leave the house when she's on call because she doesn't know if her phone will ring.
I'm looking forward to Google's rumored phone and am really hopping it's not as fugly as the Droid.
With that said I will be switching to Verizon when my contract expires next year. I love the iPhone, but my wife is on call for her job and AT&T just isn't cutting it... she can't leave the house when she's on call because she doesn't know if her phone will ring.
I'm looking forward to Google's rumored phone and am really hopping it's not as fugly as the Droid.
I love when "analysts" make "predictions" but leave sort of an escape clause in their statements for when their prediction fails. What the hell good is the prediction? "70% chance of Verizon" but "a number of reasons why such a deal may not occur in 2010". To me this just sounds like either an AT&T basher or an angry iPhone user that has experienced dropped call/signal issues.
Ever thought of the iPhone getting LTE? I mean, honestly, it will arrive mid 2010. Verizon should have some major cities covered with LTE by then.
iPhone + LTE = groundbreaking data device generating lots of money for a fast and massive LTE rollout
Check out this link 20 to 30 major cities at start will make a really big and most of all very hypable technology rollout.
As for RFID - yeah, great. Could come in handy, if the tech is widely adopted for paying.
Apple should never have gone with Cingular/AT&T in the first place. They've sucked forever. No cellular provider is perfect, but AT&T is by far the worst.
I've been with all the providers at one point or another. Everyone kind of blows, but I think I got the most bang for my buck with T-Mobile. Verizon's customer service is great. Sprint's cellular service is impeccable. But they've all got problems.
AT&T has issues across the board. But I'm with them because I'm a Mac Lifer. Always support Apple products. But in the last 10 years, teaming with AT&T is probably the worst thing Apple's done. And it's come back to bite them in the butt.
If I had my choice of providers, I'd go with T-Mobile. They have the best rates, but the most dropped calls ... however, I email and text more than use the phone, so it wouldn't effect me that much. Verizon would be my second choice.
Also, AT&T sucks. Just wanted to make that clear.
I've been with all the providers at one point or another. Everyone kind of blows, but I think I got the most bang for my buck with T-Mobile. Verizon's customer service is great. Sprint's cellular service is impeccable. But they've all got problems.
AT&T has issues across the board. But I'm with them because I'm a Mac Lifer. Always support Apple products. But in the last 10 years, teaming with AT&T is probably the worst thing Apple's done. And it's come back to bite them in the butt.
If I had my choice of providers, I'd go with T-Mobile. They have the best rates, but the most dropped calls ... however, I email and text more than use the phone, so it wouldn't effect me that much. Verizon would be my second choice.
Also, AT&T sucks. Just wanted to make that clear.
Actually T-Mobile roams on the AT&T network... T-Mobile plans are cheap, but there service is far worse then AT&T. Sprint is also cheap, but nowhere near as good as AT&T.
Would it seriously be that hard to offer both a CDMA model? Isn't it basically a single chip or two difference?
Does Apple think consumers are really that stupid that they won't be able to clearly buy one for their specific network?
Does Apple think consumers are really that stupid that they won't be able to clearly buy one for their specific network?
the iphone will NEVER goto Verizon, that's my "analysis".
I do realized dropped calls and crap sucks on AT&T, but I bet it'll get better. I just for some reason LOATHE Verizon. The name even just pisses me off.
But anyway the fact of the matter is I don't think they will because of the network differences. I mean they're talking about this chip, but I'd imagine there'd be a major software change from the cellular standpoint to deal with this non-concurrent data issue and all sorts of other things.
My friend has a droid now, when he is on data his phone is busy all the time, sometimes I get through for some reason.
Okay... well maybe when LTE hits, but then Verizon won't have this "map" game to play anymore, it's anyone's game at that point, not to mention the phone will still need to fall back to something.
I see T-Mobile getting it before Verizon. Smaller network but less prep to get it on their network.
I do realized dropped calls and crap sucks on AT&T, but I bet it'll get better. I just for some reason LOATHE Verizon. The name even just pisses me off.
But anyway the fact of the matter is I don't think they will because of the network differences. I mean they're talking about this chip, but I'd imagine there'd be a major software change from the cellular standpoint to deal with this non-concurrent data issue and all sorts of other things.
My friend has a droid now, when he is on data his phone is busy all the time, sometimes I get through for some reason.
Okay... well maybe when LTE hits, but then Verizon won't have this "map" game to play anymore, it's anyone's game at that point, not to mention the phone will still need to fall back to something.
I see T-Mobile getting it before Verizon. Smaller network but less prep to get it on their network.
Apple already partnered with T-Mobile, it's just not the North American division.
T-Mobile is slated to have the fastest growth as their towers are going to skip 7.2 mbps HSPA...
Wasn't there some talk about a combined GSM/CDMA receiver ? Add an LTE receiver to that and you're golden. A true worldphone compatible with all current standards. = Win.
People who think that there will be usable LTE coverage in 2011 are misleading themselves. It'll take YEARS before we have full LTE coverage. We don't even have 100% 3G coverage yet.. (be it CDMA or GSM..). They can't (or don't want to) offer adequate 3G coverage yet.
LTE in the largest markets does not mean sufficient LTE coverage to leave out CDMA.
People who think that there will be usable LTE coverage in 2011 are misleading themselves. It'll take YEARS before we have full LTE coverage. We don't even have 100% 3G coverage yet.. (be it CDMA or GSM..). They can't (or don't want to) offer adequate 3G coverage yet.
LTE in the largest markets does not mean sufficient LTE coverage to leave out CDMA.
I really doubt that Apple will be able to offer an increase in batterylife of dramatic proportions given the level of development or lack thereof in battery technology. What they could and most probably will do is to use new more power efficent chips, as they always do.
Given the limited opportunities to significantly improve the batterylife it is of greatest importance for Apple to optimize power consumtion. Especially when it comes to multi-tasking (which will probably be the greatest sellingpoint of the 2010 iPhone) and/or greater performance on data-throughput (802.11n), but most probably not LTE, as there's a lack of support from carriers and their networks and coverage as of now.
Other expected smaller improvements are
- Higher capacity, up to 64 GB (given that a compatible singe-chip NAND-flash of that size is produced to a great enough extent to a reasonable prize)
- Improved camera. Probably not a big sellingpoint.
- At least a slight redesign to differentiate it from 3GS and 3G is required.
- Maybe Bluetooth 3.0 to allow for fast wireless syncing? Feels like they would update their Mac lineup with Bluetooth 3.0 first though.
Hard to say what else. If they can make an iPhone powerful enough to run several applications in the backround while keeping decent batterylife and performance, then it will be a huge hit.
Given the limited opportunities to significantly improve the batterylife it is of greatest importance for Apple to optimize power consumtion. Especially when it comes to multi-tasking (which will probably be the greatest sellingpoint of the 2010 iPhone) and/or greater performance on data-throughput (802.11n), but most probably not LTE, as there's a lack of support from carriers and their networks and coverage as of now.
Other expected smaller improvements are
- Higher capacity, up to 64 GB (given that a compatible singe-chip NAND-flash of that size is produced to a great enough extent to a reasonable prize)
- Improved camera. Probably not a big sellingpoint.
- At least a slight redesign to differentiate it from 3GS and 3G is required.
- Maybe Bluetooth 3.0 to allow for fast wireless syncing? Feels like they would update their Mac lineup with Bluetooth 3.0 first though.
Hard to say what else. If they can make an iPhone powerful enough to run several applications in the backround while keeping decent batterylife and performance, then it will be a huge hit.
An LTE version of iPhone running VoLGA over IMS for T-Mo is what I want to see.
LTE - Long Term Evolution
LTE - Long Term Evolution
Exactly. As a side comment, i recently got out of my 2 year Optus contract and went to Telstra (Australia). I can now actually get a days use of the phone with 3G switched on. With Optus i got about 1/2 a day. It was so bad I never bothered switching 3G on.
I heard that recently as well when I saw an article that talked about a new technology that essentially finger prints RFIDs without added components, manufacturing, or cost. Sorry, I can't seem to find it. I think it was on engadget.
Re: Technical possibility of a CDMA+GSM iPhone.
With the exception of the Droids, many or even most of the smartphones added to Verizon's stable in the past year or so have been combination CDMA+GSM.
Samsung Saga,
HTC Touch Pro 2,
HTC Imagio,
HTC Ozone,
RIM Storm,
RIM Tour, and the older
RIM 8830.
That's a lot of dual mode phones. (I think one reason the Droids aren't, is because Verizon unlocks the GSM side upon request, and a lot would probably end up on ATT.)
With the exception of the Droids, many or even most of the smartphones added to Verizon's stable in the past year or so have been combination CDMA+GSM.
Samsung Saga,
HTC Touch Pro 2,
HTC Imagio,
HTC Ozone,
RIM Storm,
RIM Tour, and the older
RIM 8830.
That's a lot of dual mode phones. (I think one reason the Droids aren't, is because Verizon unlocks the GSM side upon request, and a lot would probably end up on ATT.)
Huh? 3G GSM UMTS uses CDMA technology. It's a different CDMA design to Verizon's Qualcomm based technology but it's still CDMA. Neither are 'outdated'.
this could be disastrous for AT&T.
I know many of my colleagues, my family, and myself hate the AT&T coverage and rate of dropped calls in Houston. Only reason I stay with them is cuse the iphone has wifi, and when I do get even the "E" signal it sounds good. Not sure if I will be resigning at end of this contract with at&t if iphone is opened to verizon
I know many of my colleagues, my family, and myself hate the AT&T coverage and rate of dropped calls in Houston. Only reason I stay with them is cuse the iphone has wifi, and when I do get even the "E" signal it sounds good. Not sure if I will be resigning at end of this contract with at&t if iphone is opened to verizon
It's not secure enough, and uses confidential algorithms in many cases.
It'd be darn hard to use your iphone/itouch while it's wrapped in tinfoil.
Digital Wallet? No.
Faster processor, more RAM, faster network speed, HD video camera, and video chat with 1.0Mp front-facing camera? Yes.
AND A DEDICATED, PHYSICAL BUTTON FOR THE CAMERA SHUTTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Faster processor, more RAM, faster network speed, HD video camera, and video chat with 1.0Mp front-facing camera? Yes.
AND A DEDICATED, PHYSICAL BUTTON FOR THE CAMERA SHUTTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That looks sweet man. That's what I call an iPhone.
And a 5 or more megapixel camera with a better lense would help too and remove the exclusivity with any network and sell it unlocked.