Analyst Predicts 2017 iPhone 8 'Mega Cycle' With OLED, Wireless Charging, and No Home Button

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    Rumors surrounding this year's iPhone 7 have focused on its removal of the 3.5mm headphone jack, and its 2017 successor has even been the center of a few reports, but this week Barclays analyst Mark Moskowitz has speculated Apple will skip its traditional "S" upgrade cycle next year altogether. Citing industry sources, Moskowitz says the Cupertino company won't debut a spec-bumped, internally upgraded "iPhone 7s" in 2017, but a completely overhauled "iPhone 8" with "major design changes" and new, next-generation features like wireless charging.

    The "mega cycle" upgrade could increase iPhone sales by 10.3 percent, according to the analyst, adding that in addition to wireless charging the iPhone 8 could pack an OLED display, a completely altered form factor, and no home button. Previous reports have suggested Apple is working with suppliers to begin manufacturing OLED panels in 2017 for its iPhone lineup, as well as develop an in-house single-chip solution to integrate its touchscreen and display drivers, allowing for a Touch ID-enabled screen and negating the need for a separate home button.

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    Moskowitz's speculation is in line with rumors that have appeared so far, suggesting the iPhone 7 won't have "any must-have form factor changes," and will include only a few internal tweaks and component upgrades paired with a flagship feature or two such as a dual-lens camera on some models. The company's historic cycle would traditionally see this year as a major iPhone upgrade following 2015's iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus launch, but changes rumored so far have been modest.

    As a result, the analyst believes Apple will sell 1.8 percent fewer iPhones this year than it did last year, given users' contentment with their current devices and the rumored modest updates in the iPhone 7. Other rumored updates to the iPhone 7 include redesigned antenna bands, the removal of the 3.5mm headphone jack, and possibly even a Smart Connector as seen on the iPad Pro.

    The less-than-stellar sales for the 2016 iPhone could lead investors to fear for an iPhone market that is "nearing saturation," according to the analyst, but it would only set up 2017's uptick in sales for the redesigned iPhone 8. Some reports point to interesting new design overhauls for the 2017 iPhone as well -- including the switch from aluminum casing to glass -- but Moskowitz's previous predictions haven't been entirely reliable, so his forecasts for the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 should be taken with a grain of salt.

    Article Link: Analyst Predicts 2017 iPhone 8 'Mega Cycle' With OLED, Wireless Charging, and No Home Button
     
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    Since when is wireless charging "next generation"? Android phones have had it for half a decade.
     
  3. Paradoxally macrumors 68000

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    Is there a reason for Apple to skip the S version? Gives them 2 years instead of 1 to perfect the iPhone 8...
     
  4. TurboPGT! Suspended

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    Why did you have to go and do that? Do I really need to explain why "wireless charging" is anything but, and why its current implementation is an unimaginative gimmick for people who buy things based on bullet points?
     
  5. JamesDo macrumors regular

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    iPhone 9 features the ghost of Steve Jobs.
     
  6. Paradoxally macrumors 68000

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    Not done right, I assure you.
     
  7. edgonzalez32 macrumors 6502

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    So it would essentially work like virtual assistant? Nice, one more jailbreak tweak I wouldn't have to install.
     
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    For the past 6 months I've already decided that I'd be skipping the iPhone 7 (been on the every other year cycle since the 3G), this only reinforces that decision
     
  9. JamesDo macrumors regular

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    Couldn't care less about wireless charging, but come on, I own an iPhone 6s, but I've seen the Galaxy S7 Edge and that screen is miles ahead. Second, I find the design of the iPhone 6 en 6s a bit boring, they are just generic looking phones, nothing special.
     
  10. Creep89 macrumors 6502

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    Well then no new iPhone this year for me. My 6S Plus will do it.
     
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    Where does that leave us for the iPhone 7? i find it difficult to believe that Apple wont do anything for this years iPhone, there are people who like myself will be upgrading from the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus.
     
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    Why did I question the author that said wireless charging is "next generation"? Because it's not.

    What's not done right about the current implementation? What differences do you think Apple could possibly make that current wireless charging capable phones can't do now?
     
  13. Paradoxally macrumors 68000

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    The screen, but that's it. That alone does not make a phone. Sony's Z5 Premium has a stunning 4k display, but the software -- much like Touchwiz -- is still garbage.
     
  14. NT1440 macrumors G5

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    Apple has been pouring R&D into both a FAST wireless charging system (one of the biggest drawbacks of current tech) AND a wireless charging ecosystem:

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  15. appledefenceforce macrumors 6502

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    Ah, the "I had it first" mentality. FYI the first Android that offered wireless charging was introduced in 2012 and it was very very very limited so get off your imaginary train at the next platform.
     
  16. cableguy84 macrumors 65816

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    The home button is living on borrowed time.
    Needs to go, takes up too much space
     
  17. Deadman64 macrumors 6502a

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    Google "watt up" and you'll see :)
     
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    Getting an iPhone SE is even more tempting now...3.5 mm headphone jack and a relatively inexpensive way to hold you over for a few years.


    Also, I kind of feel like they need to drop the numbers now. iPhone 8, with the A11 chip running iOS 10. Just do like you did with the iPhone SE and call it "iPhone" and "iPhone Plus" and identify it by year of release if your selling the old models at a cheaper price.
     
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    Samsung has had fast wireless charging for 2 years now. Now if Apple can make wireless charging that can charge devices within several feet I will be amazed, I highly doubt that will be the case though. It's going to be the same method of laying your phone down on some special charger that we currently have.

    Huh? A decade = 10 years. Half a decade = 5 years. Even if 2012 was the first year, 4 years is nearly half a decade. The Palm Pre had wireless charging and that came out in 2010, so actually it's been around for more than half a decade.
     
  20. Dave245 macrumors 604

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    And it's not true wireless charing, it still requires a dock or matt of some sort in order to charge and often it charges the device slower than using a conventional charger. Just because someone is the first to do something does not mean they are the best to do it! Apple have proved this time and time again by not being first but by often releasing a product that is better.
     
  21. Deadman64 macrumors 6502a

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    Ugh, I only wish all of this stuff was happening this year. It's going to be tough to pull the trigger on the iPhone 7 when I know the 8 is coming with awesome features.
     
  22. Paradoxally macrumors 68000

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    It's very slow. If Apple makes it even 50% faster it's a revolution for wireless charging.
     
  23. Gawjuz macrumors member

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    So the 2016 iPhone should be dismissed as there are rumours flying around concerning new technologies that MAY be connected to the 2017 iPhone? I don't think so.
     
  24. Deadman64 macrumors 6502a

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    Current android "wireless" charging is inductive. (Unless they came out with something more recently I don't know about...?)

    Next generation wireless charging uses RF, like wifi. You walk into your house/apartment and your phone connects automatically to the power "router" and starts charging. Apple is most likely partnered with the company energous. Google watt up if you want to see their wireless charging videos.
     
  25. geoff5093 macrumors 68020

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    Yes wireless charging is slower than quick charging, as inductive charging creates a lot of heat which gets exponentially hotter the more power you push through. You realize that this is 1.5 years away too, right? By then the whole industry will have more advanced wireless charging.

    Have you tried Samsung's fast wireless chargers? They aren't as slow as you make it seem.
     

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