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Sorry for letting the facts get in the way, but Mac overall market share is closer to 10% than 5%. And when you consider PC models that cost more than $1000 (which is where the real profits are made), at times Apple has been the one with 95% market share. Mac sales for 2010 are also up double digits and for the last quarter, they rose 27% over the previous year.

facts lol!! You make the mistake of believeing what Apple tell you is fact when they actually are very selective in the figures they publish.

In actual FACT worldwide, Apple are still almost irrelevant from a statistical point of view. Their large % increases are driven by poor historic performance rather than massive unit growth. Going from 1 unit to 2 is a 100% increase but still only 1 extra unit.

the table on the link shows 2010 forecast worldwide 'PC' shipments at 354 mill.

http://www.techcrunchit.com/2010/06/15/idc-sees-pc-market-grow-by-19-8-in-2010/

and whilst the years don't exactly align, Apple announced unit sales of 13.7 mill (total) for FY2010.

so...

13.7/354 = ?

3.87%



..numbers...... unarguable! ;)
 
I think the 11" MBA will sell really well. For me it completes the perfect Apple ecosystem. iMac for the office, MBA for travelling and iPad for relaxing in the living room.
 
Apple's risk-taking tends to pay off. Big time.




Who the f wants a Vaio?? It doesn't run OS X. Plus it can't hold a candle to Apple's design.

Funny, I've just flogged a bunch of corparate iPad's because literally no one wanted iOS. No native office support.

The Air looks a great form at a decent price.... and now no one wants OSX!!!

so now I need to look at something similar in the PC market or buy Air's and just single boot Windows 7 on there.
 
Who the f wants a Vaio?? It doesn't run OS X. Plus it can't hold a candle to Apple's design.

And it doesn't come with anything equivalent to iMovie, iPhoto and Garage Band. And it isn't worth squat 3-5 years down the road, IF it is still functioning by then... the mac will still be sellable by 50% of its original cost or better. And customer service is superior. And printing/wifi/networking just works easier. and build quality: we have wrist rests (yes important!), big touch pad with great multi-touch usability. no plastic parts. And no OS license number "genuine advantage?" stuff to deal with. Every mac comes with OSX, one version (ultimate?) with all development tools too. no pc viruses, so no virus protection software constantly bugging me with questions/upgrades.

so many people don't consider overall cost of ownership and user experience when talking about macs. They just whine about initial cost.
 
the mac will still be sellable by 50% of its original cost or better.
How about a third unless you can really convince someone it's worth it.

AppleCare is getting rather expensive compared to the $149 I paid for it. I've never had to call them for technical support though.
 
How about a third unless you can really convince someone it's worth it.

AppleCare is getting rather expensive compared to the $149 I paid for it. I've never had to call them for technical support though.

I just did some investigation on resale values on ebay. 40% would be more accurate. 33% would be on the very conservative side.

So show me a PC that sells for 40% of its value after 5 years, if it even runs. ;)
 
I just did some investigation on resale values on ebay. 40% would be more accurate. 33% would be on the very conservative side.
40% sounds about right.

So show me a PC that sells for 40% of its value after 5 years, if it even runs. ;)
It relies entirely on the value structure Apple has created and not on the value of the actual parts. All that falls flat if anyone can run OS X on anything. You many clone iOS devices are out there? Perceived value is sadly still a perception.

Beyond that is masochism.
 
It relies entirely on the value structure Apple has created and not on the value of the actual parts. All that falls flat if anyone can run OS X on anything. You many clone iOS devices are out there? Perceived value is sadly still a perception.

Beyond that is masochism.

Well that is part of it. Apple's track record doesn't show any signs of this changing. But the parts do apply. Apple components just flat out last longer than plastic components. I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 from 5 years ago. I paid $1200 new I think. It has a loose hinge and some vertical stripes on the screen that won't go away. If it worked perfect it might be worth $200 today, if I can convince someone to buy it and not put $200 toward a new cheapy. With the condition its in, maybe its worth $50 for parts. I also have an eMachine laptop from 6 years ago, new $1100. That thing died after 3 years: busted plastic hinges and several keys on the flimsy keyboard just quit. I also used the 1 year warranty to replace the motherboard on it.
 
Well that is part of it. Apple's track record doesn't show any signs of this changing. But the parts do apply. Apple components just flat out last longer than plastic components. I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 from 5 years ago. I paid $1200 new I think. It has a loose hinge and some vertical stripes on the screen that won't go away. If it worked perfect it might be worth $200 today, if I can convince someone to buy it and not put $200 toward a new one. With the condition its in, maybe $50 for parts.
Did you just convert my plastic Macbook into a metal one? How did you manage that with all of them and the current ones that are still sold?

AppleCare managed to pay itself back with the number of repairs I've had but should I consider that a good warranty or good customer service that they fixed everything that broke down? Telling my story of repairs could make people wary of buying a Mac. Once again, that's entirely subjective.

Maybe one day we'll have metal MacBooks as well but plastic is already everywhere.
 
Did you just convert my plastic Macbook into a metal one? How did you manage that with all of them and the current ones that are still sold?

AppleCare managed to pay itself back with the number of repairs I've had but should I consider that a good warranty or good customer service that they fixed everything that broke down? Telling my story of repairs could make people wary of buying a Mac. Once again, that's entirely subjective.

Maybe one day we'll have metal MacBooks as well but plastic is already everywhere.

I was referring to the MBP lineups. Yeah the plain macbook is plastic. Curious though, how old is it, and how is it holding up? Is there anything breaking on it due to the plastic shell? My PCs have just fell apart after 4-5 years. And these PCs were considered "high end" at the time. No other alternatives to plastic ones.

My guess, the plastic macs will be a thing of the past soon. I'll bet the next macbook will be aluminum. Even the iMacs are going that way, although not as important as a laptop for components.
 
I was referring to the MBP lineups. Yeah the plain macbook is plastic. Curious though, how old is it, and how it it holding up? Is there anything breaking on it due to the plastic shell? My PCs have just fell apart after 4-5 years.
The top case and bezel suffered from cracking. I've had my top case replaced 3 times already. It fixed a bad 'K' key the first time around. Now I just like the new input devices.

The logic board, hard drive, and battery were replaced due to sleep issues. I have 6 more days of warranty on it.

I never go to the Apple Store though. That place is only full of bad experiences for me.
 
The top case and bezel suffered from cracking. I've had my top case replaced 3 times already. It fixed a bad 'K' key the first time around. Now I just like the new input devices.

The logic board, hard drive, and battery were replaced due to sleep issues. I have 6 more days of warranty on it.

I never go to the Apple Store though. That place is only full of bad experiences for me.

A friend of mine owned a macbook (white plastic) for several years. I asked if she had problems. She had to replace the power board (old power connector, before magsafe.) Other than that hers never fell apart. She probably treated it like gold though ;)
 
A friend of mine owned a macbook (white plastic) for several years. I asked if she had problems. She had to replace the power board (old power connector, before magsafe.) Other than that hers never fell apart. She probably treated it like gold though ;)
Is that a vague judgment on how I've treated my Macbook?

It's tethered to my desk 99% of the time. I barely use it anymore every since I built another Windows tower.

Hmm, I've never had an issue. I bought my iPhone, iPad, MBP, mac mini, airport extreme there.
There is no way in hell I'm going back to an Apple Store or calling Apple Support if I can avoid it. It's a death trap tied up in corporate machinations.
 
Is that a vague judgment on how I've treated my Macbook?

It's tethered to my desk 99% of the time. I barely use it anymore every since I built another Windows tower.

There is no way in hell I'm going back to an Apple Store or calling Apple Support if I can avoid it. It's a death trap tied up in corporate machinations.

My boss bought one of the 1st intel MBP, and he has had problems with it for awhile... trackpad acts wierd, wifi sporadically disconnects, screen has some funky issues. It was way out of warranty. He almost ordered a new one but on a whim he took it to the apple genius bar. For $350 they shipped to apple and four days later it came back (fedex to door) with brand new screen, logic board and trackpad. Now that is service, and pretty decent deal considering what was fixed.

So I guess everyone has their own experience.
 
Put Up or Shut Up time

Here's how I see it. Apple isn't dumb and they certainly aren't going to let an opportunity slip by.

Before the iPad was introduced, there were craploads of rumors of what Apple's new compact device was going to be. Some folks wanted a touchscreen device like a big iPod touch. Others wanted an OS X netbook.

When the iPad came out and folks were lining up to buy them, Apple probably took notice that there's a segment of folks who would loved to have purchased an iPad, except that it didn't run OS X. (BTW, this is me)

Back then, I was lamenting the fact that the iPad wasn't a Mac netbook.

So now Apple comes out with basically everything I wanted back in March ... so it's put up or shut up for me.

Ultimately, it's gonna be iPad or MBA11 for me. Not quite sure yet.

One thing I am sure about is that the MBA11 is probably the first Apple device that has floored me since the white iBook. I was just at the Apple Store the other day and spent about 10 minutes playing with the MBA11 and it's so much more awesome in person.

It's the perfect secondary machine for many folks that want to do a little more than the iPad can.
 
My boss bought one of the 1st intel MBP, and he has had problems with it for awhile... trackpad acts wierd, wifi sporadically disconnects, screen has some funky issues. It was way out of warranty. He almost ordered a new one but on a whim he took it to the apple genius bar. For $350 they shipped to apple and four days later it came back (fedex to door) with brand new screen, logic board and trackpad. Now that is service, and pretty decent deal considering what was fixed.

So I guess everyone has their own experience.
I don't understand what is amazing about this story. The day my warranty expires I'll have to cough up $### to get a repair.
 
I don't understand what is amazing about this story. The day my warranty expires I'll have to cough up $### to get a repair.

Did I say it was amazing? The point is exactly what I said in the last sentence.
 
Apple's risk-taking tends to pay off. Big time.
When does Apple take risks ? Certainly neither MBA model is an even remotely risky product - customers have been asking them to make such devices for *years*.
 
Any announcement yet on how many sold so far? Do we have to wait for the end of the quarter for some numbers?
 
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