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Acer i3 with crap Intel graphics. I prefer Apple's choice of sticking to the nVidia IGP. Look, the Air is not a computer for you, and that is fine. No one is holding a gun to your head.

And seriously, what Netbook ships with something better than an Atom or Athlon Neo ? Those are both slower than the C2D part in even the base 11.6" MBA.

http://www.netbookreviews.net/acer/1830t/

also, what cant you do with the HM55 graphics that you can with the onboard nvidia 330? are you really going to play games? the SU9400 aint going to cut it, and neither will 2GB of ram
1080p videos? yep the intel does that, except the MBA has no hdmi out...

the new intel graphics cards are about the same speed as an nvidia 9400, its what was used in alot of macbooks last gen, lots of people seem to be fine with that.

i would say on an Ultraportable (what the MBA is) isnt battery life more important? the Acer lasts 8 hours, and the Asus equiv model lasts 11 hours.
 
I have a Quad Core i7 930, 8 gigs of DDR3 2100 ram, and Two Terabytes in Raid 5 on my power machine (running OSX... Hackintosh). If I need to use that processing power I just VNC into it and bam I can use all of that power from wherever I am. I can't however lug around my 15" Macbook Pro wherever I am.

Macbook Air 11.6.. due sometime next week. I wish Apple was faster :(

you somehow can make a 10Gbit to your VNC machine at home to encode videos?

you go to a clients house, you copy all their home videos from SD/memorystick/etc onto your laptop, you transcode them to DVD format and add menus and stuff, then you burn the DVD. how do you do that with VNC?

BTW all this shouldn't take more than 2 hours,

this is just an example, some people DO need processing power on the go.
 
I got one

I got one, couldn't be happier! Runs fast, almost netbook like, but actually with a nice screen. I don't get why no pc manufacturer other than sony gets it. People like nice screens. If the screen looks washed out, people won't like the computer.
 
Viao X is thinner than the MBA over all. Comes with an Extra extended batter bringing the overall battery life better than that of the 11.6 MB AIR. It is also lighter 1.6lb vs 2.3

Viao Z i5 alone is worth the 400 dollar premium over MBA 13 in. ALso Viao Z has a 1600x900 LED screen.

Where do YOU get your facts from?

But the Viao doesn't run OSX... You can't compare Apples to crap...

It's not all about specs...
 

Intel graphics.

also, what cant you do with the HM55 graphics that you can with the onboard nvidia 330? are you really going to play games? the SU9400 aint going to cut it

Yes, I am going to play games. And yes, the SU9400 is going to cut it, most of the graphics processing can be offloaded to the GPU, it's why we want nVidia stuff to begin with.

the new intel graphics cards are about the same speed as an nvidia 9400, its what was used in alot of macbooks last gen, lots of people seem to be fine with that.

The intel graphics card is not supported under OpenCL or VDA framework. The 320M is.

Not to mention why would I want to pay for new hardware that doesn't outperform what I already have ? :rolleyes:
 
If you don't like it, don't buy it. And seriously, me worship Apple ? I've been called a hater more times than I can count. Tell that to someone else.

I thought I would never see the day that I agree with KnightWRX, however, today is that day. You've nailed it. If people don't like the new MBA, just don't buy it.

And no, no one in their right mind (or those who frequently read these threads) would ever think that you are a worshipper of Apple. I think your arguments in this thread have been spot on.
 
Mobility is the theme and what sells these days: low power/long batteries, light weight and instant-on, sells over power/performance/capacity.

True, true, true. Any idiot who could figure out how to get to newegg.com would have a fairly easy time doing power/performance/capacity.

What these idiots can't do is be Apple engineers and fit all those goodies in a tiny, tiny computer with long, long battery life.
 
Though moving from a MBP to an 11" MBA is kind of like moving down from an S-Class to an entry-level C-Class, all I do is use the internet, use Microsoft Office, iTunes, and maybe iPhoto occasionally. And I travel and move about frequently.

I'd say it's more like moving from an S-Class to an SLK. A bit less practical, but more stylish.
 
The 11.6 Air will be a huge hit for Apple as opposed to the old Air or even the new 13". The 11" is a true successor to the 12" Powerbook. :)

I think the 11" will be the better seller because of the price, but wouldn't underestimate the 13" model. The base 13" with the 128GB SSD and costs the same as the 11" with the 128GB SSD and the 1.6GHz processor, and has an SD card slot to boot.

I will soon be on my 3rd MacBook Air (yes, I tend to spend a lot on technology - call it a hobby). I purchased the original 1.8 GHz with a hard drive, and then purchased the 1.86GHz with SSD that fall when it came out. The difference was night and day (the SSD and nVidia 9400m made a lot of difference). I really like the 4GB RAM and 256GB SSD options in the new one, and decided to finally move up to the 2.13GHz C2D. Hopefully the faster specs on the new SSD (they use a Toshiba controller now instead of the older Samsung controller on the outgoing model), the 320m, and extra RAM will provide another usability boost. Sure, Sandy Bridge may be coming next year, but Air's been in need of an upgrade for a while and now is a decent time to do it. It may be a while before Apple can get the Sandy Bridge CPUs small enough for the Air, so 2012 may be more realistic.

Because of the faster CPU and higher SSD storage options, I suspect the 13" will appeal to current MB Air owners and those considering a MB Air as their only computer, while the 11" will appeal to road warriors, those looking for a step up from a netbook, and those looking for a second Mac. I also agree that women will find the 11" model attractive.
 
I can imagine the Macbook Air to be a big hit. For those who dislike it (including me), it's probably not us that Apple is targeting. I can imagine them targeting people who don't had a hold on a Mac yet or those owning iTouchs and iPad's to bring them over to the Mac platform - after them realizing what quality stuff the iTouch and iPod are.
 
I predict the analysts will be wrong.

I WIN. They always lose.

Apple's risk-taking tends to pay off. Big time.


Viao X is thinner than the MBA over all. Comes with an Extra extended batter bringing the overall battery life better than that of the 11.6 MB AIR. It is also lighter 1.6lb vs 2.3

Viao Z i5 alone is worth the 400 dollar premium over MBA 13 in. ALso Viao Z has a 1600x900 LED screen.

Where do YOU get your facts from?

Who the f wants a Vaio?? It doesn't run OS X. Plus it can't hold a candle to Apple's design.
 
The 11" will be the big seller id imagine for 2 big reasons.

1. The size of it. It really is small and if you don't have any heavy usage i can imagine lots of people wandering into an Apple store and preferring the small size and great build quality over the standard MacBook

2. Price. Don't underestimate the price. It is cheap. Obviously the processor isn't top of the range but for web usage, iTunes etc it should be fine. A lot of people thought that a smaller machine would be more costly, because its more of an ultra portable. However Apple have managed to position it at the bottom end of their price structure for laptops.

For a second macine, someone new to a mac or a road user who has to have OS X it will be should hit the right note.

It really is not cheap. I'm aware it does not use hard drives so it can't really be that cheap, but its no where near cheap!:confused:
 
Apple's risk-taking tends to pay off. Big time.




Who the f wants a Vaio?? It doesn't run OS X. Plus it can't hold a candle to Apple's design.

I had a look to the Vaio the other day: amazing machine.
The Z is light and extremely performant: however the entry level is £1400 with HDD and £1800 with SSD and DVD/BD.

Screen resolution goes up to 1080 on 13.1" screen.

The downside is no OS X and bulky case.

There is always a choice. :)
 
Who the f wants a Vaio?? It doesn't run OS X. Plus it can't hold a candle to Apple's design.

the people that dont want to be locked into apple BS crippled propriatary designs (non removable battery, soldered ram, soldered cpu, etc)

and that would be probably 95% of the people in this world judging by market share

the whole thin anorexic design is getting kind of old, if you have a 12" laptop, you need a 12" bag, even if the MBA was 2 dimensional, or 0" thick, you STILL NEED A 12" BAG

most 12" laptops are already thin and light when compared to the 12" powerbook, and lots of people seem to be able to carry those around with NO PROBLEMS, infact i see lots of people with macbooks that are heavier and thicker, and those people also carry those around with no problems

cant hold a candle to apple's design? you mean the other way around, the vaio z will destroy the MBA in mobile computing power and functionality (yes some people need to get actual work done), the MBA is slower than some netbooks.

its funny that you think only computers with OSX actually function, there is NOTHING OSX can do that windows 7 cant do, and in some cases better (see SSD support for OSX)
 
It's all about function

I wonder why such a "cloud oriented device" does not offer built-in 3G access, at least as an option?
No, for me WiFI is not an alternative. Germany does not have many open WiFI hotspots but good 3G coverage and paid hotspots tend to be more expensive than 3G.

A USB 3G modem is a deal braker on such a device IMHO. Too bad, I will have to stick with my hackintoshed Leonovo netbook w/ 3G instead....

Christian

There is some much waffle about processor speeds and non apple alternative configs that it's really getting annoying because it is irrelevant.

Bottom line is that as a mobile machine is has fantastic appeal and I am sure it will be suitable for the majority and sell reasonably well.

Apple have made it very clear that this is their vision of the future of laptops and have been bold enough to to do it without a CPU refresh and focussed on one key theme - functionality. Only thing is they fell short with the lack of inbuilt 3G for data and the backwards move to remove the backlit keyboard.

Simply means we can now predict with certainty what will be included in the next release.

The only problem for Apple is whether they have created a market for the next release with potential customers (myself included) that will skip the current release and wait it out.
 
Who the f wants a Vaio?? It doesn't run OS X. Plus it can't hold a candle to Apple's design.
the people that dont want to be locked into apple BS crippled propriatary designs (non removable battery, soldered ram, soldered cpu, etc)

and that would be probably 95% of the people in this world judging by market share

Sorry for letting the facts get in the way, but Mac overall market share is closer to 10% than 5%. And when you consider PC models that cost more than $1000 (which is where the real profits are made), at times Apple has been the one with 95% market share. Mac sales for 2010 are also up double digits and for the last quarter, they rose 27% over the previous year.
 
And when you consider PC models that cost more than $1000 (which is where the real profits are made), at times Apple has been the one with 95% market share.

Sorry to nitpick, but that's not true. Find the article in question, you'll notice the word used was revenue share. It's a very different thing.
 
Sorry for letting the facts get in the way, but Mac overall market share is closer to 10% than 5%. And when you consider PC models that cost more than $1000 (which is where the real profits are made), at times Apple has been the one with 95% market share. Mac sales for 2010 are also up double digits and for the last quarter, they rose 27% over the previous year.

i ment globally.... becuase both sony and apple sell their products globally not just in the US, that 10% is US market share only

if nobody wanted sony products, they would not exist, same with apple.
 
Sorry for letting the facts get in the way, but Mac overall market share is closer to 10% than 5%. And when you consider PC models that cost more than $1000 (which is where the real profits are made), at times Apple has been the one with 95% market share. Mac sales for 2010 are also up double digits and for the last quarter, they rose 27% over the previous year.

i ment globally.... becuase both sony and apple sell their products globally not just in the US, that 10% is US market share only

if nobody wanted sony products, they would not exist, same with apple.

And it's 20% if looking at consumer only which negates corporates buying on price.
 
Been looking at something to take overseas for 6 months. Need portability for digital painting on like 3000x2000 canvas (photoshop). Does anyone think the macbook air would be up to the task?
 
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