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I think Apple will continue to offer 2 new phones, high-end and mid-rang, like we saw this year with iPhone 5s and 5c.
 
Multiple refreshes per year? Are they serious? As it is now, it takes so much effort and taxes the heck out of their supply chain to meet iPhone demand when it's announced... I can't imagine them pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and being able to meet that much demand/volume.

On the positive side though, I hope I can finally get an iPhone (or iPad) with the hardware that 2013 commands. I still can't believe they're selling a 16gb iphone... I understand they make a ton of margins but this makes them seem stubborn/stuck to adapt to changing consumer/technology preferences.

/rant.

Actually the hype is there because annual lauch date of new iPhones. So there is fewer things for consumers to focus on.

One year for one or two iPhones will create a temporarily higher demand and euphoria for them.
Now imagine Nokia cellphone business model back in late1990s? Literally hundreds of phone model each months with little to no difference between them.

Would iPhone be as desirable as it is today then? Doubtful.
 
Calm down... She means Apple will refresh multiple iPhones per year, not refresh the iPhone multiple times per year.

2013:
iPhone 4S - low end
iPhone 5C - mid range
iPhone 5S - high end

2014:
iPhone 5C - low end
iPhons 5S - mid range
iPhone 6 - high end

2015:
iPhone 5S - low end
iPhone 6C - mid range
iPhone 6S - high end

The plastic C model acts as an incentive to buy the latest S model.
 
Well that's a good thing, once a year just isn't cutting it anymore. Especially with android and windows phones being upgraded all the time.
 
Does that mean older iPhone will get obsolete faster than ever before? Meaning people need buy iPhone more frequently? Good luck with that Apple fans...

Obsoleteness has nothing to do with number of newer products or releases. Something is obsolete when it's no longer able to keep up with current usage requirements OF THE USER.

I have a 4s. It works great for what I need it to do. I have no plans to abandon it until I require something it cannot do (or if it breaks, of course)

My 2-year-old MBA works great (other than a few battery issues), my 2-year-old appleTV works great, my old, old, old airport works great. AND, if you didn't figure it out yet, I'm an Apple fan.

I also drive a 3-year-old Nissan Cube, does that mean it's obsolete since there are 3 newer models? PS, yes, goofiest car on the road.

I got the point you were trying to make...that fanboys MUST have the newest device at all times, but that just isn't true for the VAST majority of us. We may salivate and get excited, but we're actually logical and make sound decisions that are right for us.
 
Does that mean older iPhone will get obsolete faster than ever before? Meaning people need buy iPhone more frequently? Good luck with that Apple fans...

No...it just means that trolls will make stupid comments twice as often.

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The telcos - verizon, att, sprint, tmobile - all just created plan that cost more to allow us to upgrade phones yearly in the US. This can only mean even more expensive plans from the telco to allow us to upgrade every three months :D

More seriously, I do think this is a good move (because it allows them to better compete against all the weekly samsung releases) but maybe people will move the the european model of simply buying their phones out right (not so good for apple).

Exactly. Apple doesn't want to be the only company not releasing new phones every 6 months. Now with T-mobile's jump plan it's too easy to get a new phone every 6 months.
 
CAN'T WAIT!

I would actually save more money if Apple releases phones like they do with MBP iMac etc., with internal upgrades.

Then I would have no incentive to upgrade my phone every year, may actually move to 2 - 3 years upgrade cycle, or even longer, like my Mac.

So it may actually lower Apple's sales when they flood the market with too many releases.

Food for thought.
 
iOS products can be upgraded in capacity for interim upgrades. Personally I have no use for a new iPhone until there is a 128 GB option. Capacity increases have really been lagging since the transition to solid state media.

Same here no 128GB is disappointing as we put more and more apps and stuff onto our iPhones. Here is hopping they do that in 3-4 months.
 
Then I would have no incentive to upgrade my phone every year

People that upgrade their phones every year have too much money to blow. I hate to be "that" guy, I don't mean to tell anyone how to spend their money but phones don't evolve enough every year for it to make any sense(in my opinion). These are the same people that rant later on "Apple isn't innovating anymore." Wait 2-3 years, every iPhone you get that way really feels like a great upgrade.
 
By multiple refreshes, they just mean an date to the "C" series as well as the main iPhone, that's my interpretation. Meh...
 
I think this is pretty obvious. It doesnt mean 6 monthly model updates - it means a new iphone more often, like spring C-line update, fall flagship line update. The C line would naturally branch off into its own product line with features, specs and pricing to suit its market and the flagship would get all the new bells and whistles each year. To assume that the C line will always be a plastic covered last years phone seems simplistic to me - its been obvious since announcement that this is simply a starting point for a new product line. The staggering of release dates (or even more frequent releases of the C line) make perfect sense.
 
Apple's bifurcation...
It happened before, when Steve Jobs was ousted. It was the main reason Apple went almost bankrupt. It took the very same Steve Jobs to resurrect it by means of cutting off resource hogs and focus on 4 products. Streamlining the resources - and I mean ALL the resources is the only way for this company to survive.
Do not put your money where the patent fight is, put your money where your focus on future devices is.

Tim Cook is a great, even brilliant logistics administrator, but he has a long way to go to be close to the visionary that Jobs was. Ives is the only other person we have seen come out of Apple that gets even close to that vision.
 
iOS products can be upgraded in capacity for interim upgrades. Personally I have no use for a new iPhone until there is a 128 GB option. Capacity increases have really been lagging since the transition to solid state media.

I know, right. Bring back HDD based iphones or Apple is bust.
 
iPhone 5S still shipping in 2 to 3 weeks.

iPad mini - may not enough stock for Holiday period (thanksgiving to Christmas)

They should go back to - march iPad cycle and June/july iPhone cycle.

Xmas now starts during Thanksgiving.
 
to be fair, they're not forcing you to buy the low end model

I never understood the way people appear insulted by the existence of a 16gb device in the line up. Some people seem to become almost obsessed with how all their apps and music could not fit on a 16gb device. Would they be less insulted if Apple simply axed the 16gb model and changed nothing?
 
If this is true, then Apple is slowly making the EXACT mistakes that Sony made in the late 90s.

Sony spread itself thin by constantly expanding, refreshing, and confusing consumers...all because they stopped staying true to their niche in the tech field. Apple's niche (according to Tim Cook himself) is a few great products, with solid refreshes and simple consumer lines.

Just ask Sony what they would do differently with their "Walkman" lineup and then their failed jump into the mobile arena.
 
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I'm all for REAL innovation, but these refresh cycles are getting absurd. They are very tiny incremental improvements, and for what?

Yeah, go ahead and berate me with benchmarks, but still, come on you have to admit Apple's pace is ridiculous these days.

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If this is true, then Apple is slowly making the EXACT mistakes that Sony made in the late 90s.

Sony spread itself thin by constantly expanding, refreshing, and confusing consumers...all because they stopped staying true to their niche in the tech field. Apple's niche (according to Tim Cook himself) is a few great products, with solid refreshes and simply consumer lines.

Just ask Sony what they would do differently with their "Walkman" lineup and then their failed jump into the mobile arena.

Exactly. When Jobs came back the first time one of the main problems he admitted to was Apple was confusing the consumer.
 
now that Apple rely only on the hardware for profit, multiple iphone refresh every year kinda makes sense.
 
Let's start with the release of the iPad Mini Retina!

Crazy way to release a iPad that was planned before the "Air"! I hate Apple marketing gimmicks like this! It get one pretty upset to know that they are just delaying it to hype the product even more then it been hyped.

I pretty upset that Apple is doing this to everyone who wants to buy an iPad Mini Retina.

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I know, right. Bring back HDD based iphones or Apple is bust.

What? The future is in the clouds! I see it going in the opposite direction soon - 8GB will be the most they will sell! LOL!

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I never understood the way people appear insulted by the existence of a 16gb device in the line up. Some people seem to become almost obsessed with how all their apps and music could not fit on a 16gb device. Would they be less insulted if Apple simply axed the 16gb model and changed nothing?

Apple makes most of they dough on memory upgrades since they charge a full $100 for every increment. So you want 128GB - it extra $300.00 - Apple memory cost is about $45 more!
 
iOS products can be upgraded in capacity for interim upgrades. Personally I have no use for a new iPhone until there is a 128 GB option. Capacity increases have really been lagging since the transition to solid state media.

How could one live such a small capacity phone? Utterly useless until they release the 128 petebyte iPhones. :eek:
 
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Apple makes most of they dough on memory upgrades since they charge a full $100 for every increment. So you want 128GB - it extra $300.00 - Apple memory cost is about $45 more!

but that's also cheaper per GB, with every $100 increment they are doubling the added memory you get.

$45 to $100 - so 100% markup, welcome to retail.
 
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