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I believe when some people "hate 16GB model" mean they want Apple axes the model AND replace it with the higher end model instead.

So 32GB would be in the same price of 16GB as of today, 64GB as 32GB and 128GB in exchange of 64GB. No more 16GB, please.

Yeah, I should have just dropped the extra $100 for 32Gs, but I'm too thrifty I guess. Having to worry about how much video I shoot is a PITA tho.
 
Actually, I'm all for this concept. Everyone's contract comes up for renewal at different times of the year. By having a constantly evolving iPhone means I'll get the latest and won't have to wait for the NEXT release - bring it on Apple.

They should do the same with iPads - means that when I'm ready to upgrade, I can be assured that I'm getting iPad's latest bells and whistles - no waiting for the cycle. Again, Apple, bring it on!
 
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A bunch of people getting worked up over predictions of an analyst... Thank God Apple doesn't listen to their demands most of the time.
 
I can't see them moving to a system of more than one iPhone refresh a year. That would cause so many problems and just leave a lot of unhappy customers. They can't cope with one annual refresh let alone two. I could see the logic in maybe mixing up the release schedule so they don't announce everything at once.

Personally I would move WWDC to January and focus it entirely on iOS and OSX. That would give them the flexibility to finish and release the annual iOS and OSX updates without tying them to any hardware release schedules. That way they could move the 5s release up to say June with the 5c released later in September. That would help to even out their production schedules.
 
A strategy like this would allow Apple to catch up to Android. An accomplishment that's long overdue.

Not everyone is as emotionally attached to Apples profits, like their fans are.

Here's an example from Forbes:
"But self-perception is different than reality. And the truth is that a growing number of consumers are dissatisfied with the company’s products. There’s the fact that Apple iOS 7 literally makes some owners sick. The Internet features many blog postings detailing what to do when key programs, like FaceTime and iMessage, aren’t working properly. And hopefully users can find an available electrical outlet since it’s unlikely their phones have much battery life left. Even the iconic white earbuds are no longer status symbols, having been replaced by Beats By Dre headphones.
“Apple has lost some of its luster,” says Jeff Fromm, Barkley’s marketing executive and author of Marketing To Millennials."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2013/11/07/has-apple-soured-among-moms-and-children/

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I don't except him to be Jobs, I expect him to have vision. He has none.

This is wrong, Cook was selected by Steve for very good reason. He's doing very well.
 
I can't see them moving to a system of more than one iPhone refresh a year. That would cause so many problems and just leave a lot of unhappy customers. They can't cope with one annual refresh let alone two. I could see the logic in maybe mixing up the release schedule so they don't announce everything at once.

Personally I would move WWDC to January and focus it entirely on iOS and OSX. That would give them the flexibility to finish and release the annual iOS and OSX updates without tying them to any hardware release schedules. That way they could move the 5s release up to say June with the 5c released later in September. That would help to even out their production schedules.

I actually think that having multiple releases solve a lot of manufacturing, logistic and gross margin problems for Apple. If you look at Apple earning report over the years, 4th quarter has always the high water mark in term of revenue. But one big problem for Apple to keep going in that direction has to do with the supply chain and logistics.

Apple cannot force the timing of innovation and manufacturing solution from the suppliers. Last year, they paid dearly for Ipad mini GF2 technology (both in term price and available quantity because of yield problem). This year, they look to have problem with Ipad min 2 retina display. That is because they want to have all these new technology available in 4th quarter.

If Apple roll into a multiple releases a year schedule, they can move technology into their product a lot faster. If a technology is ready in March, release a product that make use of it instead of waiting until Dec. And if a product is not ready for 4Q, let them go to 1Q and avoid paying the penalty of yield problems.

It also smooth out the production and logistic problem as well. It is not easy to manage a manufacturing line with big burst of demand in one quarter and very little demand in the next. They have to layoff workers, and then later bring back another group of workers and start the retraining process. Shipping all the new products in one single quarter stretch the logistic and cost Apple bucket of money to have to charter plane to fly directly from China etc.


And it will help the gross margin as well.. Apple is big enough that it can move the price of the common components by itself. If they can smooth out the demand of the wifi chip, dram, flash drive throughout the year, they won't see the price spike in 4Q every year..
 
Multiple refreshes per year? Are they serious? As it is now, it takes so much effort and taxes the heck out of their supply chain to meet iPhone demand when it's announced... I can't imagine them pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and being able to meet that much demand/volume.

On the positive side though, I hope I can finally get an iPhone (or iPad) with the hardware that 2013 commands. I still can't believe they're selling a 16gb iphone... I understand they make a ton of margins but this makes them seem stubborn/stuck to adapt to changing consumer/technology preferences.

/rant.

says you with a 16gb 5s :p:D
 
Multiple refreshes per year? Are they serious? As it is now, it takes so much effort and taxes the heck out of their supply chain to meet iPhone demand when it's announced... I can't imagine them pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and being able to meet that much demand/volume.

On the positive side though, I hope I can finally get an iPhone (or iPad) with the hardware that 2013 commands. I still can't believe they're selling a 16gb iphone... I understand they make a ton of margins but this makes them seem stubborn/stuck to adapt to changing consumer/technology preferences.

/rant.

You forgot to mention the main reason they still sell a 16GB iPhone. People buy them. I seriously doubt the average iPhone user needs more that 16GB.
 
If Apple refreshes the iPhone lineup every 6 months or so it would drive the competition crazy.
 
16GB is perfect for lots of people. I know several.

The issue here is that people are not being honest with themselves. They are reluctant to say "I want to pay $100 less for 32 GB", because, a. it underscores how little power they, as individuals, have relative to Apple, and b. they think "I want" makes them appear selfish. So they offer up strategic statements as to how Apple should do business, making themselves feel generous in providing their sage advise to Apple on behalf of the world community. It's a lot of noise. The facts are: a. you do have little power relative to Apple, and b. selfishness-- making buying decisions to satisfy your own needs-- is your best weapon, so you should not be ashamed to use it.

As someone who drives new product development, I listen carefully to customers who can articulate their own problems, needs and desires. To be honest, people who tell me how we should run our business on behalf of some larger market have a lot less credibility as input.

It's unclear from your response who exactly you're responding to, since I happened to answer a comment that was posted by someone toward someone else that wasn't me, but you did use my quote, so I'm going to go with that.

Calling people here selfish for posting opinions regarding Apple products?.. Really? That's quite a stretch. Suggesting I'm ashamed of anything at all is equally bizarre in this context. I also learned you think I'm dishonest.. with myself, no less.. I find that fascinating. You must be quite a study yourself.

You do realize this is a forum about Apple products, yes? So it shouldn't be a surprise to you when people here weigh in with their ideas regarding Apple product strategy. It is kind of the point. This forum isn't a surrogate for my private communications with Apple itself, it's a way of sharing my thoughts and ideas on the products and product strategies of the company..

I think you're really overthinking this.
 
No, I'm right. We are still on Jobs timetable.... let's see what happens when that runs out.
Unless you've seen him recently it's my understanding Jobs is dead.

Dead men may leave behind wishes, guidelines & such but this is Internet time that moves in different directions at warp speed to adjust to competitive developments.

Hero worship or wishful thinking is irrelevant in the modern world.

Tim Cook has demonstrated great versatility, high intellect, keen vision, and best of all remains himself. Others in his place would have caved by now.
 
I actually think that having multiple releases solve a lot of manufacturing, logistic and gross margin problems for Apple. If you look at Apple earning report over the years, 4th quarter has always the high water mark in term of revenue. But one big problem for Apple to keep going in that direction has to do with the supply chain and logistics.

Apple cannot force the timing of innovation and manufacturing solution from the suppliers. Last year, they paid dearly for Ipad mini GF2 technology (both in term price and available quantity because of yield problem). This year, they look to have problem with Ipad min 2 retina display. That is because they want to have all these new technology available in 4th quarter.

If Apple roll into a multiple releases a year schedule, they can move technology into their product a lot faster. If a technology is ready in March, release a product that make use of it instead of waiting until Dec. And if a product is not ready for 4Q, let them go to 1Q and avoid paying the penalty of yield problems.

It also smooth out the production and logistic problem as well. It is not easy to manage a manufacturing line with big burst of demand in one quarter and very little demand in the next. They have to layoff workers, and then later bring back another group of workers and start the retraining process. Shipping all the new products in one single quarter stretch the logistic and cost Apple bucket of money to have to charter plane to fly directly from China etc.

And it will help the gross margin as well.. Apple is big enough that it can move the price of the common components by itself. If they can smooth out the demand of the wifi chip, dram, flash drive throughout the year, they won't see the price spike in 4Q every year..

Problem is you can't move Christmas can you. No point releasing a iPad mini in January if the peak demand is pre-Christmas in Oct, Nov. Dec and there's no point releasing it March because it will be out of date and look lame compared to the new tablets released pre-Christmas. To maximise sales you have to release the right products at the right time.
 
Does that mean older iPhone will get obsolete faster than ever before? Meaning people need buy iPhone more frequently? Good luck with that Apple fans...

When someone assumes that people are mindless fans and simplifies the world that way, it says more about them than what they think they've said about us. You can be proud.
 
Problem is you can't move Christmas can you. No point releasing a iPad mini in January if the peak demand is pre-Christmas in Oct, Nov. Dec and there's no point releasing it March because it will be out of date and look lame compared to the new tablets released pre-Christmas. To maximise sales you have to release the right products at the right time.

And that thinking bring Apple to the current situation. For the last 2 years Apple ran into manufacturing problems with LCD display, problematic gross margin, and quality issue pop up here and there. Look at the Ipad mini, they should have moved from A5 to A6 at this point. The additional build cost is probably $5-10 max but yet Apple decide to keep using A5. The only offering this year with A6 processor is 5c. Everything else is either A7 or A5. I would guess that A6 is in tight supply now and we will see an Ipad mini with A6 next year. By offering new products throughout the year, they can smooth out the supply issues of various components.

We cannot move Christmas but people don't buy the newest toy only during Christmas season. They buy a lot of older toys also. Those who want the latest and greatest toys will buy anytime Apple bring it out. Maximize the total sales number and earning for the entire year is the goal and not the sales number for just one quarter. Right now Android device makers are using Apple annual rollout schedule to sell their gear when Apple does not have new products in the market. Why let your competitors know your schedule in advance?
 
I'm all for REAL innovation, but these refresh cycles are getting absurd. They are very tiny incremental improvements, and for what?

Yeah, go ahead and berate me with benchmarks, but still, come on you have to admit Apple's pace is ridiculous these days.

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Exactly. When Jobs came back the first time one of the main problems he admitted to was Apple was confusing the consumer.

100% Agree. They are caving into pressure, rather than focusing on redefining the rules of the "tech" game.
 
Unless you've seen him recently it's my understanding Jobs is dead.

Dead men may leave behind wishes, guidelines & such but this is Internet time that moves in different directions at warp speed to adjust to competitive developments.

Hero worship or wishful thinking is irrelevant in the modern world.

Tim Cook has demonstrated great versatility, high intellect, keen vision, and best of all remains himself. Others in his place would have caved by now.

Yeah, your post is utterly nonsensical. It deserves a MASSIVE facepalm.
 
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