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Analyst Speculates on Mac Pro and MacBook Air Updates, iTunes.com at WWDC
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Typically, what does/does not garner Page 1 status never really bothered me - with the exception of anything associated with Wu.
I've been here since, I don't know, 2002 - and Wu has never shed a spec of new light, presented anything resembling an angle that hadn't already been reported in the media (often, several times).
If Wu is an analyst, then so too is my cat Stella. Who fully expects Apple to announce the next gen iPhone at WWDC.
Still holding on by my fingernails.....
Well my trusty 6 year old Power Mac G5, which has been a wonderful, reliable workhorse that has made me quite a bit of money, and has been nursed along and held together with duct tape and crossed fingers, has a main hard drive that is finally starting to give up the ghost. (6 years is a pretty good life- never planned on making it last so long!). I know hard drives are easy to replace, but I'd have to reinstall a bunch of software, and the whole computer needs to be much faster for my animation work. A slow computer for animation is like a slow race car. After two additional untimely external hard drive failures within the last year (Western Digital and G Tech) I'm ready to move to a very very fast, Intel-based Mac computer with a large amount of reliable, internal storage and plenty more ram.
I've been debating on buying a loaded 27" Imac for a couple months now, but I have held back just to see if the new Pro is coming out. (plus who wants to change computers in the middle of a big project?)
Either way, I will not wait anymore for a Mac Pro after the WWDC.
No news by the end of the conference, I'm pulling the trigger on an i7. If they could at least TELL US a new Pro is coming out, I'll work on my wife's laptop (no pun intended) until the release. I've got over three months of animation freelance work to do with this machine and I simply cannot waste any more time (and productivity) waiting for some long-rumored apparition to make a red carpet appearance.
I know you guys are tired of hearing about mac pro release stuff, but thats where I'm at. I really need one immediately, and I'm not alone.
Well my trusty 6 year old Power Mac G5, which has been a wonderful, reliable workhorse that has made me quite a bit of money, and has been nursed along and held together with duct tape and crossed fingers, has a main hard drive that is finally starting to give up the ghost. (6 years is a pretty good life- never planned on making it last so long!). I know hard drives are easy to replace, but I'd have to reinstall a bunch of software, and the whole computer needs to be much faster for my animation work. A slow computer for animation is like a slow race car. After two additional untimely external hard drive failures within the last year (Western Digital and G Tech) I'm ready to move to a very very fast, Intel-based Mac computer with a large amount of reliable, internal storage and plenty more ram.
I've been debating on buying a loaded 27" Imac for a couple months now, but I have held back just to see if the new Pro is coming out. (plus who wants to change computers in the middle of a big project?)
Either way, I will not wait anymore for a Mac Pro after the WWDC.
No news by the end of the conference, I'm pulling the trigger on an i7. If they could at least TELL US a new Pro is coming out, I'll work on my wife's laptop (no pun intended) until the release. I've got over three months of animation freelance work to do with this machine and I simply cannot waste any more time (and productivity) waiting for some long-rumored apparition to make a red carpet appearance.
I know you guys are tired of hearing about mac pro release stuff, but thats where I'm at. I really need one immediately, and I'm not alone.
I'll believe it when I see it. This guy has a worse reputation than the analyst who predicted that Ballmer was going to be at WWDC, introducing Visual Studio for OSX.
Are you sure you didn't intend that pun? Just checking. It sounded like you intended the pun.
Big surprise. Shaw Wu is always throwing darts in the dark. Sometimes he hits the target, often he does not.
Not What They Want
While you have a good point, I don't think that's what the industry means or wants. Cloud Computing in their eyes translates to paid services in which the consumer doesn't actually OWN what they're buying. Paid access to data seems to be where things are going, unfortunately. I plan to fight it tooth and nail. If I don't host the data myself, then I don't own it and as such I can't ensure its security and backup policies. I get the feeling that this is where things are headed and it is bad news to me.
We've seen the idea fail again and again. Just look and the Microsoft/Danger problem with the Sidekick cloud a while ago. Also, look at online gaming. Every time a new version of a game comes out, the old(er) version is taken offline with no local access to online play. Why? Because the companies own the servers, so they can make the decisions. It's sad but true. Okay, rant over.
While you have a good point, I don't think that's what the industry means or wants. Cloud Computing in their eyes translates to paid services in which the consumer doesn't actually OWN what they're buying. Paid access to data seems to be where things are going, unfortunately. I plan to fight it tooth and nail. If I don't host the data myself, then I don't own it and as such I can't ensure its security and backup policies. I get the feeling that this is where things are headed and it is bad news to me.
We've seen the idea fail again and again. Just look and the Microsoft/Danger problem with the Sidekick cloud a while ago. Also, look at online gaming. Every time a new version of a game comes out, the old(er) version is taken offline with no local access to online play. Why? Because the companies own the servers, so they can make the decisions. It's sad but true. Okay, rant over.
"Speculate" is the operative word here kids.
This is Macrumors. Speculation is in it's DNA.
Three basic points:
1 - It's "its", not "it's"
2 - Shaw Booooo knows nothing;
3 - His sources are right here at MR, and the saddest thing is: they are paid ZERO [insert your local currency here] for their great assistance...
Three basic points:
1 - It's "its", not "it's"
2 - Shaw Booooo knows nothing;
3 - His sources are right here at MR, and the saddest thing is: they are paid ZERO [insert your local currency here] for their great assistance...
Picky Picky Picky!!
Spelling is DEAD!!
I am in the exact same situation. 1st gen G5 still holding up but barely. But I know that even if they dont mention an upgrade at WWDC they could pull a quiet update with-in a week or so. Man this is painful. Hate to get stuck with an iMac because I could not wait just another week... or 2...or 3.
PS I was banging on my wife's iBook waiting on the G5 to come out.
déjà vu
..only noticed the pun potential after I wrote the line. So I guess maybe I did intend the pun...
Sorry to hijack this thread someone, but I just felt I needed to say something about drive failures. As someone who is in IT and maintains 20-30 machines, Western Digital drives are BY FAR the least reliable drives I have EVER seen and used. I can't tell you how many have failed in the last 5-7 years in our workstations. On a personal level I've had several fail and will NOT purposely buy another one again.
Some external HD enclosures with drives inside when purchased don't say the manufacturer of the drives they contain. I've had one of those and both drives failed just outside of warranty. It is absolutely CRAZY there isn't someone putting a class action lawsuit against the sale of defective products.
You have been warned, and I'd love to hear any Western Digital sales/management speak to this point. Burned once, shame, burned a dozen times and even a Mea Culpa isn't enough. It was bad during the 40-80GB drive sizes and I thought perhaps the new manufacturing on larger drives would be better.
If you care about your data, I would rather recommend Seagate drives which have in practice proven quite reliable (with a few failing in the years but usually after a good 3-5 years of reliable service). The price difference for performance/size is NOT worth it if you are on a budget. Consider the cost of losing your data.
Interesting point, if cloud media was the way things were going this would have been a good measure of what would be needed to get there. Wonder if something like that could also detect the average download speeds of individual users?
Because it's not just your music, it's your videos and other stuff we haven't even created yet. Because at some point we're going to realise having 7B copies of the same file on a device drawing electricity is stupid. Because at some point connections to these places in the cloud will be the same as the connection to your hard drive is now.
There is a day soon when the question, "why would I store that locally?" will be a question no one understands. The concerns around storage will be gone. They will be replaced with confidence that it happens elsewhere, like electricity is today, where as just a few years ago people ran their own generators.
It will not happen all of a sudden, though it will happen quickly. We will transition to that paradigm, and we have started this transition already, this is merely another step in that direction.
Look at past years, this year isn't significantly different.
The server is likely on life support as Apple doesn't seem to be promoteing them very well. That is sad but let's face it Mac OS just isn't optimized for server workloads the way Linux is. One thing that Apple could do though is to go after the home server market. I actually believe the home server market could be bigger than the Mac Pro market.
In summation I just see these demands for new product releases from Apple as being uninformed at the very least. New hardware comes when it is ready.
Dave
Apple never releases its new products at the same time. From the standpoint of management it would make no sense to do so.
The iPod updates come in the fall and always have.
One could look at the Mac Book and pretty much determine what the Mini update will be. Certainly they need an update but it isn't significantly behind for a low end unit.
This is the time for an iMac update.
I'm still of the opinion that Apple is trying to finalize new technology for the Pro and maybe even the iMac. There is a good possibility the hardware just isn't ready.
AIR sucks in its current configuration. As such it needs an overhaul and refactoring. An update might come but I doubt it will ignite sales without offering up a better suite of features.
History tells us that the new iPhone should arrive next month so no worries here.
Your final two items are actually very interesting. If anything is outdated it is the displays. I'm actually of the mind that Apple may simply give up on displays and let the pro monitor manufactures take over. Then I have this flip side where I think Apple will instead make the monitors into high tech TVs. If there is any product line that is wide open a range of possibilities it is the displays.
The server is likely on life support as Apple doesn't seem to be promoteing them very well. That is sad but let's face it Mac OS just isn't optimized for server workloads the way Linux is. One thing that Apple could do though is to go after the home server market. I actually believe the home server market could be bigger than the Mac Pro market.
This is again an attitude I don't get - why get mad at Apple if their supplier doesn't have the parts to build the product you want. It isn't Apples fault especially considering they are dealling with the supplier with the best mobile lineup at the moment.
In summation I just see these demands for new product releases from Apple as being uninformed at the very least. New hardware comes when it is ready.
Dave
And a historical industry reviewer regarding what *should* have happened years ago. I still don't understand why Apple didn't support SIM cards in the laptops they produce. Years ago Dell offered it (years ago!), why not Apple? Ridiculous that every single laptop doesn't offer this as a standard feature.
If you don't lime my jokes it's fine, but everyone else is bashing the analyst's records, with good reason. Tell them all not to come too. This is a forum, not a professional data exchange application. People gather to socialize, fight, share their interests and disappointments, no purpose. Live with it.
Lots of wishful thinking.
You may believe that and frankly it might work for SOME consummer uses but only some. For the business world they will want more security and reliability than the industry can provide.
Dave
That is very unlikely to ever happen. There just isn't enough bandwidth/coverage available. Even with the research going on into 60 GHz networking you still won't have the coverage you need.
I can't ever imagine that happening. For anybody that works outside the office or leaves the home socially, storage will continue to be important into the foreseeable future.
Unfortnately recent history has indicated that you can't trust external services. Be it Microsoft/Danger, yahoo or whatever the evidence is clear you can't rely upon external services. In fact one of iPhones best features is the ability to do local backups.
You may believe that and frankly it might work for SOME consummer uses but only some. For the business world they will want more security and reliability than the industry can provide.
Dave
One more thing . . .
One more thing . . . .
We are extending the keynote by an hour because we have a few more things to talk about, is that alright with you guys?
[Crowd roars.]
Rocketman
One more thing . . . .
We are extending the keynote by an hour because we have a few more things to talk about, is that alright with you guys?
[Crowd roars.]
Rocketman
There are several reasons.
First that bandwidth isn't always available, that is getting a connection will always be an issue.
Second could based music and video services waste an incredible amount of bandwidth effectively causing each file to be downloaded everytime it is "played". Here the problem becomes congestion and bandwidth costs.
Third as long as you have to pay for bandwidth it will be cheaper to store content locally.
Fourth interactive use of content can be very constrained if it is only streamed to the user.
Fifth could based systems assume that you only get your content from the web service. For many of us the materials purchased through iTunes is only part of the content we may want on the device.
Sixth could based services are not green. They waste an incredible amount of energy.
Now given those quick six items streaming might makes sense in the case of view them once TV and movie shows. For music it is just nuts as tracks are contantly replayed.
Dave
First that bandwidth isn't always available, that is getting a connection will always be an issue.
Second could based music and video services waste an incredible amount of bandwidth effectively causing each file to be downloaded everytime it is "played". Here the problem becomes congestion and bandwidth costs.
Third as long as you have to pay for bandwidth it will be cheaper to store content locally.
Fourth interactive use of content can be very constrained if it is only streamed to the user.
Fifth could based systems assume that you only get your content from the web service. For many of us the materials purchased through iTunes is only part of the content we may want on the device.
Sixth could based services are not green. They waste an incredible amount of energy.
Now given those quick six items streaming might makes sense in the case of view them once TV and movie shows. For music it is just nuts as tracks are contantly replayed.
Dave