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PLEASE! I am using Galaxy Note 9 as a phone for one simple reason -the stylus. It is such a good tool, so handy and Versatile! It makes my work a joy. However, all my comps are Macs and I would run to the store to get my first iPhone that I'll use as my phone, the moment Apple offers it - hopefully as versatile (if not more) as Samsung does it.
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Facepalm That's wonderful that you use a Galaxy note 9 as your phone. However given that this is the ONLY phone that uses a stylus, perhaps it's telling you that the demand for a stylus isn't that great?
 
I love my Apple Pencil on my iPad Pro 10.5” (2017) but having it on an iPhone makes no sense. It’s a small device you control with your finger. No one is making professional artwork on their iPhone.
 
Facepalm That's wonderful that you use a Galaxy note 9 as your phone. However given that this is the ONLY phone that uses a stylus, perhaps it's telling you that the demand for a stylus isn't that great?

Well, I really couldn't care about general demand. I demand it!
 
I understand that some people want to use a pencil/stylus with their phones. Samsung have a phone with this. I am just frightened that apple have lost their way since Steve Jobs has died.

Why should apple copy what Samsung have done? If Samsung users jumped over a cliff, would you?

I agree that Apple is floundering a bit. They no longer have a true visionary at the helm or even on the bridge.
 
Context, context, context ... Steve Jobs made that remark in a time where everyone else HAD TO use styluses. He wanted a device that can be operated with the fingers alone. That was the big selling point and his point. Now the Apple Pencil for iPhone would be something completely else, does not relate to Steve Jobs's remark at all.
 
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If you happen to own an iPad and a stylus.....why not be able to use that stylus, you know....the stylus you already have...on your phone?

Selecting very fine parts of a web page, extracting text from that selection, etc. etc..... it comes in very handy
 
All right, so you found one person who does. But this is extremely niche, and Apple doesn’t cater to 1% of their customers with features. Giving options just for the sake of it is Samsung’s thing, hence why they’re the one offering this.
 
All right, so you found one person who does. But this is extremely niche, and Apple doesn’t cater to 1% of their customers with features. Giving options just for the sake of it is Samsung’s thing, hence why they’re the one offering this.
There’s plenty of videos of people drawing on their galaxy notes on YouTube. I don’t have time to watch them all to see if they are doing it for fun or for work. The note is a niche phone but it still sells 15-20 million units a year so it’s not an insignificant number.





And here is someone drawing on their galaxy note 2 all the way back in 2012!



I’m not an artist and I can’t draw at all. However I do like colouring and I would like an Apple Pencil for my iPhone to do this and to make notes.
 
A neat Apple Pencil is almost a must for the iPhone at this time and age. ESPECIALLY FOR HEALTH REASONS! My friend just called me last night and told me about her memory losses and her's doc advice to not touch phone screen, but rather use stylus as not to make constant memory losses into a full-blown dementia.

Having a stylus is so convenient to do all kind of work, that I tend to pull it out without thinking, whenever I am planning my phone calls, scheduling and note taking. Especially when we are exchanging work notes and you have to circle, underline, mark and write a handwritten comment on the text or a picture.
I would just love to utilise iNotes, iPages and video/photo editing with it. I am supper comfy with Apple ecosystem but for the iPhone.

It is true that is a niche market (but not that small either), but a good Apple Pen for the iPhone would probably have many more fans along the way. Factor in all the development that can make future Apple pen an entirely different tool.
 
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I cannot imagine why people are so annoyed with this. It's not as if they suddenly created a stylus for the iPhone, they're just making the phone compatible with existing tech. (maybe)

Who cares? Don't use it if you don't want to but complaining about it is stupid.
 
I cannot imagine why people are so annoyed with this. It's not as if they suddenly created a stylus for the iPhone, they're just making the phone compatible with existing tech. (maybe)

Who cares? Don't use it if you don't want to but complaining about it is stupid.
The iPhone was different when it first came out. It didn't require anything as painful as a stylus. Now that Apple has kind of lost their way, they just contemplate copying other manufacturer's ideas that still are painful?

Here's an idea, if you want to use a stylus, buy a damned android device that uses one.
 
The iPhone was different when it first came out. It didn't require anything as painful as a stylus. Now that Apple has kind of lost their way, they just contemplate copying other manufacturer's ideas that still are painful?

Here's an idea, if you want to use a stylus, buy a damned android device that uses one.
Nobody is suggesting a stylus will be “required.”

A stylus is a useful tool. Da Vinci wasn’t a finger painter. The right tool for the right job.
 
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Nobody is suggesting a stylus will be “required.”

A stylus is a useful tool. Da Vinci wasn’t a finger painter. The right tool for the right job.

I won't use it. The issue that I have with any onboard or built in storage for this thing is that it will detract from the overall "appleness" of the device and make it look "clunky".
 
I won't use it. The issue that I have with any onboard or built in storage for this thing is that it will detract from the overall "appleness" of the device and make it look "clunky".
What on earth makes you think there will be onboard or built in storage? In all the years pencil was available for iPad, which is much bigger and has more room for storage, they never did that.

All we’re talking about is iphone supporting Apple Pencil.
 
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What on earth makes you think there will be onboard or built in storage? In all the years pencil was available for iPad, which is much bigger and has more room for storage, they never did that.

All we’re talking about is iphone supporting Apple Pencil.

I understand, but this is exactly what Steve Jobs said when he said why use a stylus when you can use a finger? These styluses either get lost or misplaced, and you end up having mutliple bloody styluses when a finger just works.

Fine. Use a stylus if you want to, I just won't.
 
I understand, but this is exactly what Steve Jobs said when he said why use a stylus when you can use a finger? These styluses either get lost or misplaced, and you end up having mutliple bloody styluses when a finger just works.

Fine. Use a stylus if you want to, I just won't.
No, that’s not at all what Steve was talking about when he said why use a stylus when you can use a finger. He was talking about the fact that, for operating the device - for interacting with the user interface - a finger is better than a stylus.

And he was right.

But that’s not what Apple Pencil has ever been intended for. The purpose of Apple Pencil has always been as a digital analog of an actual pencil (or pen, or paintbrush). It’s intended to be used within apps to perform actions that have traditionally been done by its analog counterparts. There is a reason that people use pens on paper and don’t just dip their fingers in ink wells. The right tool for the job is important.

If you want to mark up Word docs on your phone, or sketch things, or create illustrations on your phone, Apple Pencil makes a heck of a lot more sense that trying to use your fingers.
 
But that’s not what Apple Pencil has ever been intended for. The purpose of Apple Pencil has always been as a digital analog of an actual pencil (or pen, or paintbrush). It’s intended to be used within apps to perform actions that have traditionally been done by its analog counterparts. There is a reason that people use pens on paper and don’t just dip their fingers in ink wells. The right tool for the job is important.

If you want to mark up Word docs on your phone, or sketch things, or create illustrations on your phone, Apple Pencil makes a heck of a lot more sense that trying to use your fingers.

I understand, but who is sketching things on a tiny screened phone using a damned stylus?!?

An iPad, sure, use a stylus. The apple pencil is sort of right on a 10 inch screen. On a relatively small hand held screen (like an iPhone) why in god's name would anyone use such a device?!?
 
The iPhone was different when it first came out. It didn't require anything as painful as a stylus. Now that Apple has kind of lost their way, they just contemplate copying other manufacturer's ideas that still are painful?

Here's an idea, if you want to use a stylus, buy a damned android device that uses one.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Painful? A whole page of eye-rolls isn't enough for this ridiculousness.

Hey guess what? Still no stylus required and here's an idea: Don't use it! It's existence is going to have zero impact on your life. (and if it does, the problem isn't the pencil.)
 
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Fine. Use a stylus if you want to, I just won't.

Yet you'll sit here an argue with those that don't see a problem with it?
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An iPad, sure, use a stylus. The apple pencil is sort of right on a 10 inch screen. On a relatively small hand held screen (like an iPhone) why in god's name would anyone use such a device?!?

People use drawing/coloring apps on their iPhone as evidence by the reviews in the Appstore. If you can't comprehend that people like to doodle on their phones while riding in a car, waiting in line, etc. I don't know what to tell you but I bet those people would like pencil compatibility.
 
I understand, but who is sketching things on a tiny screened phone using a damned stylus?!?

An iPad, sure, use a stylus. The apple pencil is sort of right on a 10 inch screen. On a relatively small hand held screen (like an iPhone) why in god's name would anyone use such a device?!?

There are lots of people who do it on Samsung. And the biggest iPhones are getting bigger over time. But the real answer is who cares? I have an iPad Pro with a pencil. If iPhone adds pencil support, I’m sure that every once in awhile I will use the pencil on my iPhone, to add a signature to a document and send it off in a pinch, or to jot down a quick sketch of an idea, or to jot quick edits to a document someone sends me from work. Even if I use it only once a month, so what? It doesn’t hurt anybody to have the functionality there and not used. It’s not like they’re going to build a big pencil dock in the thing that is going to take up needless space.
 
I cannot imagine why people are so annoyed with this. It's not as if they suddenly created a stylus for the iPhone, they're just making the phone compatible with existing tech. (maybe)

Who cares? Don't use it if you don't want to but complaining about it is stupid.

It's the same people who argue against mouse support. I see it as another option that can be useful but no one is forced to use it. Some use cases work better with touch (resizing documents for viewing), some with mouse (spreadsheets, text selection, programming) and others with pen input (signing digital documents, drawing, diagrams, note taking).
 
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