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Do you hear that?! That is Steve rolling in his grave.

Not really, it’s not a stylus for ui input (like styluses used to be when Steve said it), it’s a pencil for drawing and notes.
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Does the rumor say that it will be a new kind of pencil, incompatible in all ways with the iPencils 1 and 2 ? If not, it is obviously not legit.

Yeah, was wondering that myself. Also, if it supports Pencil 2, and you don’t have an iPad Pro (and buy the Pencil just for your iPhone), how will you charge it?
 
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Photoshop on iPhone. It’s coming for iPad, so why not the iPhone?

Before the inevitable comments about how ridiculous it would be to use Photoshop on an iPhone, there’s one good use case:

When a client calls you and likes the ad you created (for example) but just has one small change to make and it’ll be perfect. Load it up on your iPhone, make the change and done.

It’s not for doing the heavy lifting of creating the content. It’s to give you the ability to fine-tune content at the last minute.

Nobody sane in his mind with a fair amount of respect towards his customer will ever do that. Doing finishing touches on the go? Just within a couple of seconds? That screams “I don’t really care” all over the place. I would never do polishing on my way. And once im somewhere... again, taking out my iPad and getting into whatever software i need takes like 10 seconds tops, compared to the minutes it will take me to approve my results are worth sharing with my client.

So no, I don’t see here any use case. I could imagine annotating a screen though, while having the client call. Could be messy, but should be ok. I never had a client call while walking/standing, but for some people that might be relevant.
 
Would be good. I don't particularly care for using the pencil on the phone, but it would definitely be combined with a pro-motion screen which I really want to see on the iPhone.
 
Please people make a difference between the stylus which was a substitute for you finger and the pencil which is a tool to draw and create thing the finger can't do.

I think such an iPhone approach is a stupid idea, beyond real use.
You won't do e.g. art on a phone/phablet. If you like/need to do, you own an appropriate iPad incl. Pen.

A bad idea, copied from the competitor by some overzealous and uninspired marketing people at Apple.
 
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To be fair, he made this comment when the dominant touchscreen technology was resistive. The user experience was not up to par to what the iPhone offered at the time.

And he didn't want the stylus to be the only input method. As long as the pencil is optional I see no problems with supporting it. I wouldn't use it and I don't have it on the iPad but is great to have more tools and choices
 
I would be nonplussed by this. I have an Apple Pencil and can’t see me using it with an iPhone, but I can well imagine it would be a bonus for some. It certainly can’t hurt to have the option. Those going on about Steve Jobs’ apparent dislike for the stylus are living in the past and need to understand context and changing technologies.
 
Even more hilarious will be the Apple fanboys, saying how cool and game changing it is... now that Apple's got it.

Why would they say such a thing? Markets are full of styluses for iPhone, i can’t really see what Apple Pencil support would change. I’m a big fan of my Apple Pencil with my iPad and also tried stylus with iPhone, but i don’t see any use for it. If the support comes it would be very minor feature to most.

Only thing which i think would happen is that we see lot of insecure Samsung fans talking about this and they will use those Jobs words (which have nothing to do with this) over and over again with their insecure hating.
 
Not practical with the current Apple Pencils. Unless Apple finds a way to include a housing in the iPhone for a smaller pencil, like Samsung Note did it years ago, or even Palm Treo did it more than a decade ago.

I envision an iPhone that has a stylus with built in housing, a USB port that accepts disks and external peripherals, Which can also be used as a docking station’s connecting port, proper file system, multi user accounts, fully floating scalable windows for multi-tasking and being able to load programs outside the Apple AppStore as well.

In my dreams......
 
I’m totally open for this, but personally, I know this won’t happen, but I wish Apple could borrow the concept from the Galaxy Note line, have a stylus built in to the phone itself, regardless if it made the phone thicker or not, that’s my personal preference.
There are several aspects of the Galaxy Note line. For once, it's a second line of flagship phones with larger displays and secondly they come with a built-in stylus. Should Apple borrow both aspects?
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USB-C instead of Lightning on the 2019 iPhones then.
So you would be able to charge the 1st gen Apple Pencil with the help of the Lightning adapter (the Lightning female to Lightning female part) and a separately purchased USB-C to Lightning (male) cable?
 
Charging would occur by placing it on the back of the iphone, just like shared charging occurs in Samsung devices already on the market.
Can you charge a stylus/pencil on the back of Samsung phones? In other words, are there styli or pencils that can be charged on Qi charging surfaces?
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2019 iPhone supports reverse wireless charging.
But does the Qi standard support charging something as thin and long as a stylus or pencil?
 
I though Jobs hated styli of any kind. This goes against Apples core principles.

I don't think it does. Steve was railing against HAVING to use a stylus to use the interface. Any stylus being used on iOS devices today is only an addition, but not absolutely needed.
 
Apple fanboy here. Pencil support on iPhone isn't game changing in the slightest.
The only time I see someone usefully using a stylus on something as small as a phone is in retail transactions like courier deliveries. Maybe Apple is going to be pushing their point of sale side of things and some how make iPhones double up as cash registers.
 
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I'm fine with my iPhone 8 for another 3 years. If this happens I hope its good for people that want it.
 
Nobody sane in his mind with a fair amount of respect towards his customer will ever do that. Doing finishing touches on the go? Just within a couple of seconds? That screams “I don’t really care” all over the place. I would never do polishing on my way. And once im somewhere... again, taking out my iPad and getting into whatever software i need takes like 10 seconds tops, compared to the minutes it will take me to approve my results are worth sharing with my client.

So no, I don’t see here any use case. I could imagine annotating a screen though, while having the client call. Could be messy, but should be ok. I never had a client call while walking/standing, but for some people that might be relevant.

I’m not speaking from the artist side, I’m speaking from the client side where I’ve made such requests before. The most common one we’ve made was making changes to text. Sometimes we change an entire sentence (we might have several slogans we’re mulling over and pick one) and sometimes it’s just a single word. I don’t see how changing the text is screaming “I don’t really care”.
 
Yes, good way to sell the $199 pencil instead of increasing the iPhone prices in 2019!! Ecosystem lovers will love it !
 
A company making one version of its product is NOT a monopoly. You should first read up what monopoly means.
I didn’t say a company making one version of a product is a monopoly. I said about a monopoly making one version of its product. You should first try to understand what you’re replying to.

Regarding demand for 4” phone: we were talking about choice in the first place.

But speaking about demand, if all companies would be making 4” phones now instead of 6” ones, people would have no choice but to buy them. And you would still say:

Show me actual demand for 6” phone. Even $600 Android phones have at max 4” screens now. If the demand for 6” phone is so great, companies would be making them. But the market says otherwise.

This logic is flawed. Most people buy what market upsells them to, it’s mostly about fashion and trends and what’s available. Right now market insists the bigger the better. Bigger size is better, higher resolution is better, 8K TVs are better, all that in order to being able to sell every year something even “bigger” and so “better”. Although in reality most people will find huge phones impractical and won’t ever see the difference between current phone screen and another one with even higher resolution. It’s easier to just increase regular specs and sizes instead of real innovations.
 
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Sorry, but if Apple is going to do a stylus, they will have to go Samsung Note and put it inside the iPhone. Few will want to carry an Apple Pencil around with them.
 
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Sorry, but if Apple is going to do a stylus, they will have to go Samsung Note and put it inside the iPhone. Few will want to carry an Apple Pencil around with them.

Knowing Apple, they won't, since you won't have to buy the styles for $199 or $99, if they put inside the mobile!!
 
I’m not speaking from the artist side, I’m speaking from the client side where I’ve made such requests before. The most common one we’ve made was making changes to text. Sometimes we change an entire sentence (we might have several slogans we’re mulling over and pick one) and sometimes it’s just a single word. I don’t see how changing the text is screaming “I don’t really care”.

Sorry for my harsh reply. It's just that I still don't see how a pen would help doing this on the go. Either it's a matter of normal typeface, in which case an onscreen keyboard being operated with fingers would be enough. Or it's actual handwritten text, in which case there is no way this can be adapted quickly, since the flow of the lines is very critical and should be done under calm circumstances.
Or do I miss something here?
 
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