Absolutely true. I most of the iPad 2 users i know just don't need to upgrade yet.
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Analysts See Record-Breaking Sales for iPhone and Mac in Holiday Quarter
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Absolutely true. I most of the iPad 2 users i know just don't need to upgrade yet.
Point taken. If Apple can reliably implement a solar charging solution in the same form factor, that would be a game changer.
3 million in first quarter of availability ramping to a possible 30 million for 2015?
That's quite a ramp up!
You do know someone with an original iPad. Me. I handed it down to the spousal unit when I got a Retina. They are both still in daily use.
Anyway, not disagreeing with the reasoning, just pointing out the MR spin. The decline is significant, not slight.
I have upgraded to every new iPad model except for the iPad 2 Air. In addition, I am using my Mac more than my iPad. I am using the iPad for what it does good at and stopped trying to use it like a Mac/PC replacement. Post PC era my ass.
Where's the industry-leading Mac Pro upgrade? Or have sales not justified keeping that new Mac current? Or are the processors not yet available or affordable enough to keep their margins healthy? Lots of questions...
The iPhone already is a major player as a 'hub' device (see the Mac as a hub idea ala Steve Jobs), at least in the US. While more important innovations will appear, the effect of shrinking the main computing device that people have means that accessory devices can interact with that mobile hub--hence in part the "internet of things." Apple may make some of these devices, but it's more important for them to have the 'platform' of choice right now than it is to release the next big tech innovation. The more people they can attract to the ecosystem, the more disruptive the new innovations can be.
I agreed with everything until that last remark. The Post PC era doesn't need to mean the personal computer needs to die out completely or become inconsequential. It just means that a new form factor takes the limelight, which is exactly what has happened.
you don't need to be the first to be innovative. (innovation is not the same as invention). I think digital crown and force touch is quite innovative.
If you look from a tech enthusiasts eye, the iPad (and iPod) wasn't innovative either.
But from the avg consumer perspective it was very innovative (it was new to them and added lots of unique value). This value was reflected by the market disruption that occur shortly after (shift in consumer spending and resulting reaction by electronics makers).
the iPad and iPod were SJ products, I still don't see how Tim Cook isn't following the Apple way.
My wife has an iPad 2 and I have a 3rd gen iPad. For what we use them for, they still work well enough. A newer one would be lighter and faster, but the difference just isn't enough to be worth spending a lot of money for. I ordinarily wait for hardware to die before replacing it anyway, but this is definitely true for the iPad.
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I wonder if it's more of iPhones <6 being "good enough"... that the tangible new hardware features of 6 are not compelling enough to motivate some with iPhones <6 to take on a new contract and or lay out the full price to replace one off contract.
Personally, I see the bigger screens as a huge draw (pardon the play on words) for the masses, meaning I suspect many of those who are clinging to old models are not turned off by the bigger screens. Instead, I think it's just that unless ApplePay is a big draw, the <6 iPhone one already has will still run every app, still display the very same home screen, still make every call, still text just as well, still ________________ as well or close to it. If one doesn't burn for a bigger screen and/or ApplePay, they may see their <6 iPhone as "good enough" and await the 6s or 7.
It does seem inevitable that iPhone will eventually reach a point where the pull to upgrade will slow down as added utility (of new hardware features) becomes increasingly nichey. Maybe the crowd sticking with <6 iPhones are satisfied with their bundle of benefits "as is"? Or they just don't want a new contract or to lay out so much money for an unlocked one just so they can buy other things with Apple Pay and/or use modestly-larger screens?
No real surprise here considering the incredible iPhone 6/6+ demand. There were so many iPhone upgraders and Android deserters who were just waiting for Apple to release larger screened phones. Thank you Apple, my iP6 was certainly worth the wait. 
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Still rocking my iPad 2. With iOS 7 installed, it definitely lags, but is otherwise still totally usable.
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Still rocking my iPad 2. With iOS 7 installed, it definitely lags, but is otherwise still totally usable.
Roll a 20 sided die like in D&D and look up the table
1-10: Doomed
11-15: Disappointing results
16-19: Met expectations
20: Great Quarter!
That is certainly possible, as smartphones have evolved they do seem to be getting to a point where most any phone will work well enough for your average user. Sure there are features on high end phones that are nice, but phones aren't loosing their usefulness anywhere near as soon as they used to.
Phil Schiller, is that you?
I am in the camp of those who have an iPad 2 that simply don't need to upgrade it yet. If I upgrade anything soon it will probably be my Mac Mini, opting instead for a MBA.
I'm starting to wonder whether they'll be able to top these numbers. Not that it means they're doomed if they don't - it can't go up forever.
Just I wonder if this means they've peaked. Then again, a lot of people seem disappointed with the specs. the iPhone 5S was 200% faster than the iPhone 5, and the iPhone 6 is only 25% faster than the iPhone 5S.
So maybe the 6S outsell the iPhone 6 because it will ship with double the RAM, a much, much faster processor, a much better camera, etc.
Just I wonder if this means they've peaked. Then again, a lot of people seem disappointed with the specs. the iPhone 5S was 200% faster than the iPhone 5, and the iPhone 6 is only 25% faster than the iPhone 5S.
So maybe the 6S outsell the iPhone 6 because it will ship with double the RAM, a much, much faster processor, a much better camera, etc.
I upgraded from a 4s to a 5s. Actually, I think this will be my last iPhone as Tim Cook seems to have a problem with white males as customers and in general, so looking at alternatives next time for sure.
Yes, clearly Tim Cook is a product of self-loathing.
Never more deserved: :roll eyes:
LOL. The same junk people said about how the iPhone had the same 'core features' as every other phone at the time, minus the keyboard, camera, 3G, and stylus. I love how some people can't learn from history and spend their lives repeating it.
As much as I liked my 4S, by the time the 5S was released, I was ready for an upgrade due to battery life improvements. The larger screen size of the 5S vs the 4S is nominal.
I'll be getting the 6S if they continue the naming strategy, but I won't be getting the plus version, I have the iPad for bigger screen size.
Now when I get an incoming phone call at home, my iPhone, iPad, and MacBook all ring, and I can answer on any device.
So basically Apple is doomed if they don't have a record quarter and doomed if they do (because they'll never be able top it). So under what scenario would Apple not be doomed?
No, no-- you should only be hating on Apple products before they're released-- then tepid and complaining about their features once they're released. Only several years later should you describe them as revolutionary and game changing, in contrast to Apple's *next* product which you should definitely hate on.
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Yeah, observing this cycle of people reacting to Apple releases has really helped me understand the whole of humanity in the depth of their cluelessness, in a microcosm.
That will likely include me. ApplePay is the "Killer App" that's likely going to prompt me to jump. The only quesdtions are A: When will it come to Canada. and B: How long will it take me to convince SWMBO to let me get one.
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