Well, the whole water cooled G5 "super computer" was kind of a disaster.When has Apple made a power or speed claim that was not accurate. They underpromise and overdeliver
Well, the whole water cooled G5 "super computer" was kind of a disaster.When has Apple made a power or speed claim that was not accurate. They underpromise and overdeliver
No - the takeaway here is that Intel and AMD have been intentionally pushing out underperforming CPUs since forever. They're in this business for the long haul and are only going to dole out incremental improvements to keep a future pipeline open.
While the M1 may blow the doors off of currently available low power Intel chips now, you can bet your apple fritters that APL will do the exact same thing from here on out -- incremental upgrades.
Yeah, me too.Instead of throwing around synthetic benchmarks, it would have been more convincing if they’d shown side by side comparisons of typical usage scenarios vs a reference competitor such as a M1 Air vs. Dell xps13 with a 10th gen i5 or a M1 MBPro vs. Lenovo slim 7 with Ryzen 9 doing tasks like rendering a complex web page or changing filters on a pivot table
For example, the A13 on my iOS device is supposed to run rings around intel in benchmarks yet a $300 i3 laptop at home runs browser based apps faster than the iOS device.
Point 1. I do pretty serious Photoshop (affinity) work on my ipad. That has considerably less ram.RISC has a more efficient pipeline, so less memory is needed for computing. But RAM is primarily used for data.
If you put a 20 GB file through a 16 GB system, it is going to swap and if not grind to a halt at least slow down considerably.
Doing serious Photoshop and Premiere work with MM M1 is going to be a silly joke.
Someone will when they’re released- dont worryYeah, me too.
Show me an operation, I don't know, a video-rendering with some aded effects/transtition, maybe blur a 36 MPix photo etc.
Side by side on Intel and on Apple Silicon.
Than we can talk.
This article by Larry Jordan - https://larryjordan.com/blog/perfection-is-the-enemy-of-the-good/ - does a good job of bringing some perspective to what is actually needed in terms of DRAM and storage speed for editing, at least in FCP X, which should generally apply to most applications in the same realm. There is a law of diminishing returns adding DRAM and 32GB seems to be it according to the article and several others he’s written on the subject. I currently have 64GB in my 2019 iMac, but that being said, I can probably do just as well with 32GB or even 16GB. It’s psychological as much as anything, because so many people here in these forums think more is better, when more is just more.my favourite is ram complainers....who have no idea how memmory works on ARM based chips.
16gb is plenty , for even users with 32gb intel machines.
a 6gb ipad pro can edit 20gb images no problem....i wonder what the 16gb m1 can do...
another is the battery , the batter life will be very accurate. not like the variable power envelope of intel which can scale from 4 hours under load to 10-12 surfing web. the m1 cpu is no longer what consumes the most power. battery life wont change much under load.
But that's what benchmarks do. They perform renderings/calculations/data processing on fixed data sets and measure the time needed.Yeah, me too.
Show me an operation, I don't know, a video-rendering with some aded effects/transtition, maybe blur a 36 MPix photo etc.
Side by side on Intel and on Apple Silicon.
Than we can talk.
That the base model comes with 8GB is fine.Point 2. THESE ARE BASE MODELS. It’s shocking to read all these comments where everyone seems to have missed this rather important concept.
Said the person who bought a Mac to run Windows because PCs are almost all crap instead of buying a Mac to run macOS.A true disaster, that Apple leaves intel without ensuring cross-platform-compatibility.
This Rosetta 2 crap is just an insult of the common user.
BUT THEY’RE THE BASE MODELS!That the base model comes with 8GB is fine.
That you can get more for an additional cost is ok.
That there is a limit of 16GB is what is bugging people.
Especially on the "Pro" book.
Because of the M1 or because of Adobe’s **** code and 30 years of cruft that gets Band Aids and duct tape instead of proper updating and refactoring?RISC has a more efficient pipeline, so less memory is needed for computing. But RAM is primarily used for data.
If you put a 20 GB file through a 16 GB system, it is going to swap and if not grind to a halt at least slow down considerably.
Doing serious Photoshop and Premiere work with MM M1 is going to be a silly joke.
You can scream all you want, but logic, reasoning and critical thinking skills are incredibly lacking in these forums.BUT THEY’RE THE BASE MODELS!
You’re certainly correct there.You can scream all you want, but logic, reasoning and critical thinking skills are incredibly lacking in these forums.
You mean entry level machines? I can see that for the Air and Mini, but not for the MacBook Pro, which should be - according to Apple's own classification - a pro machine.BUT THEY’RE THE BASE MODELS!
They have released a lot of failed products, but did this water cooled thing is before my time. I guess it was also the reason they shifted over to Intel, because the PowerPC chips had become power inefficient. Now we are switching to Apple Silicon because Intel became power inefficient!Well, the whole water cooled G5 "super computer" was kind of a disaster.
You mean entry level machines? I can see that for the Air and Mini, but not for the MacBook Pro, which should be - according to Apple's own classification - a pro machine.
Sounds fantastic, but I'm holding off for the pro version.Oh Boy! Wait till you Apple fanboys read about Intel's release of their i15 architecture. Intel marketing has proclaimed it the; "i15 Hyper Super Duper Turbo Mega SS Speed Demon 80286Q Evo Tera Zoom Multi Core Magic Processor"
Apples labelling of such machines is a different conversation. This new model replace the entry version of the macbook pro 13“, the one that was limited to 16gb ram already, the one with two port. People are losing their s**t and they have no idea whats going on.You mean entry level machines? I can see that for the Air and Mini, but not for the MacBook Pro, which should be - according to Apple's own classification - a pro machine.
Watch a 4K YouTube video in Chrome to blast it clean!!! The fan will spin like crazy...I am stating the obvious, but if you only need short bursts of power probably there will not be any throttling at all.
My wife has an Intel 2020 MBA and I wouldn't be surprised if it had cobwebs on its fans.
Well, it _is_ replacing the low end MBP - like mine - with 2 Thunderbolt ports, which is a pro only in name...You mean entry level machines? I can see that for the Air and Mini, but not for the MacBook Pro, which should be - according to Apple's own classification - a pro machine.
Why are you so upset, nothing to see?Heah Apple! I thought we weren't supposed to be concerned with specifications anymore. It's all about the "experience" so 'there's nothing to see here'. Bring on the pastels and stretchy watch bands!