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AnandTech Finds iPhone 11 Pro Has 50-60% Higher Sustained Graphics Performance Than iPhone XS
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I can just imagine the computer version of this will be pretty powerful as well. Without the engineering overhead for low power and thermal constraints. I for one would welcome an apple designed processor, at least for their laptops.
They would have to get over their big ego, and start cooperating with Nvidia again.
Actually, iOS apps use garbage collection, depending on the generation. With ARC there's less GC overhead, since theoretically objects get whacked once they're unused.
Specifically, the explicit reason they moved to Intel was that IBM wasn't interested in making low power chips for notebooks and Intel was. That's what led directly to the MacBook Air and Intel's focus on laptop chips/low-power performance.
Apple doesn't care about desktop-class performance, generally speaking; their focus has always been mobile performance and power. That's been true since the first powerbooks, and it's true today.
MS just released their ARM-based Surface Pro X. The processor in that 2-in-1 is using a custom designed-from-the-ground-up processor specifically to handle desktop-class tasks. It can run 32-bit x86 applications in emulation and 32-bit / 64-bit native apps that are compiled for the ARM processor. If MS can pull it off, Apple can as well.
You know what I think would actually be pretty sweet?!
What if they really pioneered some sort of interface that would allow stuff like hard drives and video cards and stuff, to be plugged in... but run just as fast as if they were installed internally!
Then you could add say.... a video card in a box, & voila! You could load boot camp & run at the exact same speeds as any other PC gamer!
It is extremely close to an Intel Core i9-9900K (8-core), and beats the Ryzen 3900X Zen2 (12-core), according to a benchmark linked from the article here.
That is for integer-based benchmarks, but the article suggests even floating-point benchmarks are only ~15% off - and that's the kind of gap that can disappear in a single generation if the A-series track-record is considered. Or even just the A13 design with a larger power/heat envelope.
There is no need for quotes around desktop class. Hell, if the A13's performance isn't desktop class, then neither is the i5-4690 in my gaming PC.
Now, quite what 'oomph' would be required for runtime x86-to-ARM translation is unknown at the moment. It might not even be something Apple are considering. But I wouldn't rule it out.
Benchmarks are astonishing, but the A series chips won’t escape the ‘mobile’ stigma for enthusiasts until they can demonstrate that effectiveness doing the same jobs as that Core i9 machine (Like After Effects rendering or playing a new AAA game). It will have to ultimately be a like-for-like usage comparison, and that’s probably not gonna come until a “hypothetical“ A13X ends up in a MacBook with a relatively massive pile of RAM.
I’ll be absolutely fascinated to see what happens when that eventuality comes along, though.
There are other higher performance GPU's from Nvidia and AMD that can be used in the pro laptops if Apple would stop trying to thin those down so they can have adequate cooling. Intel Integrated should be reserved for the ultra portables like the Air.
It’s not ego...it’s about not letting the wolf back in the hen house.
NVIDIA’s presumptuousness of their own preeminence got them tossed and hopefully they will never get back in the door at One Apple Park Way. They don’t serve their customers, they serve themselves.
There's only so much they can do, since they depend on Intel for the CPUs and IGPs. They can add their own discrete graphics, but that's always been the case.
That would be a huge advantage of them going to ARM, where they could develop highly-optimized solutions for their platform, which Intel CPUs and GPUs are definitely not.
That is simple: Dump Intel, go Zen2 and the upcoming APU Zen2 by AMD. Less expensive and much more power in the GPU.
If heat is a problem then you have a "bad" app. Check power usage in settings and stop this app from tracking you in the background (or simply just delete Facebook and Spotify).
lol. I have neither. And it’s just from use and during charging and using. Nothing Apple can really do. It’s a lot of power in a small chassis hence why I think the chips benefit most on an iPad.
There is a reason Jim Keller who invented the A Series SoC is working still on dedicated CPUs today, recently at AMD for Zen, Samsung and now Intel.
Full scale operating systems need full scale CPUs/GPGPUs. My fellow engineering alum and present know this very well.
Apple has zero intent on developing ARM licensed SoC for the desktop/workstation markets. Get used to it.
So you know there exists a "Nvidia crowd" so perhaps that is what the poster you replied to meant. Why doesn't apple put Nvidia cards in Macs and why doesn't apple support OpenGL.
It’s just a tweaked 8cx. Still runs off-the-shelf ARM cores so still way behind Apple. The A12X is still faster and the upcoming A13X would widen the gap.
Not custom designed. Uses ARM cores along with a new GPU and neural co-processor. So, maybe 50% custom.
Most companies CEO have an ego, not taking sides just remembering history when Steve Jobs ceased selling anything Apple at Costco due to pricing issues and as of recent Apple products are available once again at Costco. There was also the time when Steve and Bill had a fallout then made up to being Office to Mac. Or the situation with Adobe regarding flash and photoshop and now it’s coming sometime to iOS in 2019.
It’s just all childish to be honest, rather than these CEO’s stroking their ego they should be thinking about the customers and shareholders, go figure.