Apple clearly has the hardware... but isn't it up to developers to make the software?
I don't think Apple is doing anything intentional to hinder gaming on the Mac.
It's just always been that game developers tend to focus more on Windows.
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Apple clearly has the hardware... but isn't it up to developers to make the software?
I don't think Apple is doing anything intentional to hinder gaming on the Mac.
It's just always been that game developers tend to focus more on Windows.
they're not going to make a push for it. gamers tend to be toxic. its a branding issue. apple wants to be productivity/creative centered
Intel benchmarks say that its testing shows that the M1 Max has only 53 billion transistors, not the 57 billion claimed by Apple.
Also, the new Core i11 runs more game programs.
Also, the new Core i11 runs more game programs.
The ball is now on the developers' court, to take advantage of the new hardware and optimize their software for it.
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Apple has never taken games seriously on the Mac, why do you think they would now?
iOS games are what to look for. Games that get updated to take advantage of the M1 power. Sort of like the Xbox Enhanced versions of game for the new gen hardware.
Unless Apple gets serious and puts some $$$$ behind promoting games on the Mac, then your AAA game studios will ignore it.
I always see a lot of talk about gaming on a Mac but are people really ok with spending $6,100 on a maxed out laptop just to play games?
No one is buying a $6,100 laptop just to play games.
But some people would like to also play games on their laptop... rather than spending thousands on a separate gaming PC.
Or they could just get a $500 console.
(note that decent GPUs and consoles are very hard to find and/or scalpers have ruined the market... so gaming on their laptop might be all they can do...)
IMO, Apple did NOT develop these with the Game Market in mind.
I believe they did so specifically FOR & exclusively FOR Hollywood, & the like !
I believe they did so specifically FOR & exclusively FOR Hollywood, & the like !
To quote the great saint Jobs: "Its a screamer!"
One thing that blows my mind is that it matched the MSI GE76 Raider with Nvidia 3080 mobile discrete graphics in Aztec Ruins and that's with the msi PLUGGED IN!
Unplug the high end jet engine 'gaming' laptops and the score will be dramatically lower whist the M1 PRO/MAX performance will stay roughly the same!
From the reviews I have seen, the most common use case for the high performance is video editing. Tasks that used to make an Intel laptop sound like a F16 taking off are now silent and doable with battery power. Up to now almost all video editing has required plugging the machine in, but M1 Max seems to change the game.
Given the M1 Max can consume up to 92W package power, I'd say within 10 minutes of that kind of sustained workload.
From a power efficiency standpoint, M1 Pro and M1 MAX are still very impressive compared to non-Apple CPUs and GPUs. In so many real-world tasks these new SoCs are much faster and use 10s of percent of the battery as opposed to scores of percent with Intel/AMD.
Up to 40 CPU cores and 128 GPU cores (per Gurman, who was 100% on Pro and MAX so...) should be very impressive...
Oh, I’ll have to read up on their current development cycle then. thals For the heads up
Gamers are fickle and toxic; frankly they aren't a good demographic to hang your company's success upon. If you can get them onboard, great, but they come and go all too easily.
Historically Apple linked itself to education and now to media creators.
Historically Apple linked itself to education and now to media creators.
Yes and Handbrake can already use T2 chip to accelerate H265 encoding on Intel Macs.
Use VideoToolBox as encoder. That's the native build-in encoder api.
yes, Apple designed the pro for .... you guessed it pro creators not the tiny niche market of mobile laptop L33t Gamer's!
Apple literally answered every question people have been demanding here for years plus released a screamer pro soc but there is still negativity.
call me paranoid but sometimes i think the toxic comments are Astroturfed ms/intel shills posting FUD (fear uncertainty doubt) to gaslight the Apple community.
It might be true that Apple doesn’t want to be associated with the classic gamer market, but I would bet the bigger issue is that the market is just too small for it to be worthwhile. At some point, game developers will realize that making games that are huge energy hogs is going to cost them, not just cost the end user.
I see... thanks.
But theoretically couldn't a game developer make games for whatever Apple offers?
Then I guess we're back to the installed-base problem. There are simple more Windows machines on Earth... thus there are more games on Windows.
Amazing review. Can’t wait until mine shows up tomorrow.
Makes me wonder what kind of monster the Mac Pro will be? Is mankind even ready?
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Makes me wonder what kind of monster the Mac Pro will be? Is mankind even ready?
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