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I'm so old, that in my days, they were called emoticons or smileys, and they were entirely made up of punctuation marks.

But to be honest, I don't get the whole emoji craze.
  • Use of anything but the classic smiling, sad, or laughing one is highly ambiguous and I have no idea what you're trying to say (like if you send me a gorilla or one expressing a complex emotion, like crying but laughing but also wearing glasses and riding a shark). Like, what are you trying to say? Why don't you just write it down instead?
  • Using them often makes you seem childish and immature, equivalent to TYP1NG EVERY7HING LIKE TH!S111
Seriously, when would you ever use an emoji depicting garlic? Or butter toast? Why would you ever have to use those? Since when is typing "dog" slower than opening up the emoji panel and scrolling through a quadrillion of emojis to find the one that looks like a dog?

unfortunately the forums strip out any real emoji use so I'll have to improvise.

only had time for <butter toast emoji> this morning <unamused emoji> I'm starving <loudly crying face emoji> <pasta emoji> for lunch, extra <garlic emoji> <smiling face with hearts> will <running emoji> and extra mile at the gym tonight <winking tongue emoji> <red heart emoji>cheat day!<red heart emoji> <cat face tears of joy emoji>

and that dog emoji is only two taps if you use it regularly, it's in your recently used. People that get confused by a large number of emoji seem to not understand that the couple dozen you use most and always right there at the left.
 
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Wait! Yesterday's emoji article had a round waffle - the last image in this article shows a square waffle.

Now I'm confused and hungry. I'm gonna need both.

I just now realized your pfp is a person taking a picture. I always thought it was a backlit guy in a wilting klan hood (with eerie glowing eyes I guess) and moved along quickly without really looking at it :p Freud would have a field day with me ;-)
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citysnaps said:
Scientists and doctors around the world are not addressing cancer research?

Or are you expecting that's a task Adobe should be heading up?

Don't let Adobe research cancer, they'll find a way to infect the patients with new viruses.
 
N = 1,000 people? That's all? Out of the hundreds of millions of people who text, Adobe could only survey 1,000?

And MacRumors thinks research based on N=1,000 is notable enough to post?

How about a proper study of at least 100,000? And report the cross sectional demographics too. Break down results based on age and gender. What emoji is most used for people over age 50? What's the most common for teens? Where were these users located? For only a thousand surveyed, it could be anywhere.

I guarantee you could do a survey like this in local high schools in NYC for N=1,000. But that wouldn't be representative of the entire population. This is terrible research at best, and an even worse news story.

Because statistics. The average sample size for presidential polling is also 1000 people.

What should concern you is that the research was conducted solely on mice. https://twitter.com/justsaysinmice
 
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This is our new world, a study about what emoji gets used the most. Unfortunate.

Interesting. You have the proper tone for an old person. Yet if you were truly an old person, you'd know stupid studies happen all the time and have for decades. Probably centuries if not longer. I just Googled "stupid studies" and found a goldmine. This is nothing new. At least this study was more interesting than learning being homeless can be bad for your health or that an electric fan can be beneficial in extreme heat and high humidity.

Someone should do a study on how insignificant something can be, but still throw MacRumors users into a tizzy. Anything emoji related seems to get the job done, but I'm sure we can top that. *

* Since this thread is populated by people who have risen above the masses, you'll have no problem determining my intent there without any visual aids.
 
Interesting. You have the proper tone for an old person.

Nostalgia is heroin for old people. My Grandad used to say things were better when he was a kid. Things weren't better - you couldn't turn on a light without the Germans bombing you.

Once read this and liked it:

If you dislike change, you're going to dislike irrelevance even more.

Emojis are change.
 
If you're at work and one of the thoughts you have in your head is "How would this look in court?" then your company has bigger problems than Emoji use in emails.

I see you're from Scotland. Apparently, you aren't aware how litigious businesses can be here. In any large company, the employees are required by the company's Legal department to complete and pass business ethics training. The training is typically an online slide show with quizzes. It serves a darker purpose: to hold an employee accountable—rather than the company environment—if someone is "injured" by routine dealings.
 
The difference being these are not replacing our language, they are an addition to be more expressive, if you want to use them. They are also universal and while you couldn't write an entire sentence using emojis you could express something to someone that doesn't speak the same language as you.

Also I don't know what a single one of the glyphs means, and I doubt many people do. while my 3 year old can tell me what almost all of the emojis mean.
If I remember correctly hieroglyphics existed along side an Egyptian alphabet, not replaced, so the association with emoji is probably stronger than people realize but means less of what they think.
 
Nostalgia is heroin for old people. My Grandad used to say things were better when he was a kid. Things weren't better - you couldn't turn on a light without the Germans bombing you.

Once read this and liked it:

If you dislike change, you're going to dislike irrelevance even more.

Emojis are change.

For the majority of people, youth is/was the fondest period of their existence. Oblivious to the drama in the World. No responsibility for your survival and welfare. Few expectations. You'll think the same someday.

Emojis aren't change. They are an amusement whose fans regurgitate like a joke that has been over-shared and no longer surprises.
 
Phew -- so many old whiners in here!

Facial expression existed long before language and written word; emoji is the best digital approximation of that.

Take a reality pill and get with the "modern" "trend" folks.
"Old"? How do you know? You don't think there are young people who get tired of "modern" and "trendy"?
 
I just now realized your pfp is a person taking a picture. I always thought it was a backlit guy in a wilting klan hood (with eerie glowing eyes I guess) and moved along quickly without really looking at it :p Freud would have a field day with me ;-)
Wow, yeah, that former interpretation is all off. It's a selfie of sorts, shooting at the floor, my shadow in the light coming through a stained glass window, in a former monastery (Fontevraud Abbey) in France. I've always liked that it was, indeed, a picture of me, but quite obscure. Plus pretty colors - it was more beautiful in real life than what the camera could capture (had a lot of fun on that trip taking pictures of glorious stained glass, though mostly with the camera pointed at the window, rather than away from it).
 
I see you're from Scotland. Apparently, you aren't aware how litigious businesses can be here. In any large company, the employees are required by the company's Legal department to complete and pass business ethics training. The training is typically an online slide show with quizzes. It serves a darker purpose: to hold an employee accountable—rather than the company environment—if someone is "injured" by routine dealings.

I work for a multi-national oil & gas company and deal with Major Emergencies and Crisis Management. I'm aware of how litigious business in the US can be. The majority of our clients are North American. If we mess up then people die, and we go to court. I've done more ethics training than I've had hot dinners. With these aspects in mind. I will repeat my stance:

  • If the thought in your head when typing an email is what it would look like in court, then I suggest you get a new employer.
  • If legal issues arise in your company from emojis, then you need a new employer.
  • If you were an employer and would ban emoji (as you said), then you'd be a terrible employer with bad priorities. I would then suggest your staff need a new employer.
Honestly people. It's emojis. Get a grip.
 
where is the emoticons world day? i was born during the times of ascii art and expressions through text

> : (

(i can't even make an emoticon in ascii because macrumors automatically converts it to emoji. terrible!)
 
Interesting. You have the proper tone for an old person. Yet if you were truly an old person, you'd know stupid studies happen all the time and have for decades. Probably centuries if not longer. I just Googled "stupid studies" and found a goldmine. This is nothing new. At least this study was more interesting than learning being homeless can be bad for your health or that an electric fan can be beneficial in extreme heat and high humidity.

Someone should do a study on how insignificant something can be, but still throw MacRumors users into a tizzy. Anything emoji related seems to get the job done, but I'm sure we can top that. *

* Since this thread is populated by people who have risen above the masses, you'll have no problem determining my intent there without any visual aids.

I suppose you have valid points there.
 
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Are you really serious? My comment about sloths and orangutans emojis was removed because somebody thinks it had political background? Really? Are we living in a world when I make a comment about my favorite animals and some idiot translates it into a political comment?

God bless democracy!
 
Wow, yeah, that former interpretation is all off. It's a selfie of sorts, shooting at the floor, my shadow in the light coming through a stained glass window, in a former monastery (Fontevraud Abbey) in France. I've always liked that it was, indeed, a picture of me, but quite obscure. Plus pretty colors - it was more beautiful in real life than what the camera could capture (had a lot of fun on that trip taking pictures of glorious stained glass, though mostly with the camera pointed at the window, rather than away from it).

Now that I've actually taken a look at it I like it. It creeped me out in the past but shame on me for not looking more closely :)
 
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I work for a multi-national oil & gas company and deal with Major Emergencies and Crisis Management. I'm aware of how litigious business in the US can be. The majority of our clients are North American. If we mess up then people die, and we go to court. I've done more ethics training than I've had hot dinners. With these aspects in mind. I will repeat my stance:

  • If the thought in your head when typing an email is what it would look like in court, then I suggest you get a new employer.
  • If legal issues arise in your company from emojis, then you need a new employer.
  • If you were an employer and would ban emoji (as you said), then you'd be a terrible employer with bad priorities. I would then suggest your staff need a new employer.
Honestly people. It's emojis. Get a grip.

Tell that to the lawyers. Companies and employees have been burned by emails that were seemingly uncontroversial prior to a scandal that shed them in a different light. Emoji are even more ambiguous and open to interpretation. They evoke an unprofessional etiquette, which could make the accused's intentions look similarly personal.

https://gizmodo.com/how-would-you-feel-having-your-emoji-messages-read-out-1832723698
 
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I don't understand how this site hasn't added emoji support to its forums yet.

everybody likes a challenge, particularly when the only link that works is the "119 comments" to get here. Firefox changes to %E2%80%8E/ on the end.

"Note: Because emoji do not display properly on the MacRumors forums at the current time, please view this post on the MacRumors site to see the full emoji characters mentioned."
 
I dont know who are the short mind guys in charge of the emojis, but there are 4 faces almost same for sad, but there are tons of humans emotions and expressions that arent represented yet.

Please, take any manga and copy the first 30 expressions you see, or ask any professional animator,

I can see this is as a perfect example Of professional intrusion
 
Thanks to the "smart" phone, in a couple of generations, everyone will be an illiterate, pointing mute.
heh.. just a heads up..

_you_ are that generation... or, at least, the same thing was said when the radio was invented.. and tv..

and actually, similar people said this kind of stuff about the printing press.. and even written word..

——

personally, i think future generations will be smarter than today.. just like history has shown will likely happen
 
I dont know who are the short mind guys in charge of the emojis...

That would be the Unicode Consortium (not Apple as many around here believe).

As for the rest of your post, they do accept feedback. It would probably be more productive to funnel your suggestions directly to them if you're truly bothered.
 
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