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And... Tablet Rumors Revived: Larger Mac-Like Tablet in the Works?

comradesnarky said:
I...actually believe this. Maybe it's because I find the iPad to be an incredibly underwhelming and crappy product... I just don't think that Steve Jobs or anyone else as Apple expects the iPad to be an incredibly overwhelming success. I was never excited for the tablet, as I've never found the technology appealing, but, I just can't see Steve Jobs being as ecstatic as many people said he was about the iPad. It's an overgrown iPod Touch/iPhone with some new features, and no storage space difference. I think it's a testing the water type product to generate some user feedback to see what they can do for a full fledged product.
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I don't know who taught you how to make an analysis because your reasoning if full of bias and unsubstantiated claims. Wow!
Any journalism teacher worth their salt would wipe bowls from their a** with this.
 
And thinking of Microsoft. I'm sure that they are sitting back waiting to see who comes out of this fight on top to see what they will have to do to counter that victor. Although I haven't heard that much from the PeeCee market and their tablet systems...
 
Flavioparentiq said:
The problem is if you use internet as a tool to work, not only to consume information, in this case the ipad can't be very useful.
I can't count how many times i've downloaded images/sound effects/projects/help files/video files to use them DIRECTLY in my 4 programs running behind firefox (AE, PS, Cubase, Final Draft). The ipad can nowhere give such experience to a user who need the internet for more that just watching video/new/social networking.
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Let me shave your point down to simplicity.
If it don't work for you, don't buy it. Period. End of.
We don't need the long and winding road of so-called flaws and setbacks speech. Sony makes a video camera costing well above $60,000. I ain't buying it. And you won't catch me writing a thesis on why I don 't need it.
 
I'm sorry, this is the dumbest rumor I have heard. The iPad has a 9.7 inch screen and weighs 1.5 pounds. A larger touchscreen means more metal and more glass and would weigh at least 2.5 lbs. which to hold with one hand would be ridiculous. you would have to use it on a table or on your lap, so it gains nothing in portability or usability.
 
jclardy said:
I'm sorry, this is the dumbest rumor I have heard. The iPad has a 9.7 inch screen and weighs 1.5 pounds. A larger touchscreen means more metal and more glass and would weigh at least 2.5 lbs. which to hold with one hand would be ridiculous. you would have to use it on a table or on your lap, so it gains nothing in portability or usability.
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I can hold up a macbook air with one thumb and two fingertips, and that's 3lb...
 
sharkinfested said:
Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow today and you know what that means:
6 more years of tablet rumors…

I just don’t think a Snow Leopard tablet is a good idea. Here’s why:

1) Apple would have to build and support a 3rd OS. People scream for updates all the time now. Can you imagine how spread thin they would be with a 3rd OS?

Why would it need another OS? OSX would be fine surely?

2) The tablet would have to be at least as big as a MacBook in order to comfortably see and read anything. Throw ease of use out the window.

For me A3 size would be perfect, but I know i'm not the core market for this product.

3) The worst thing is none of your 3rd party software titles are designed for a touch screen, so either you’ll have glitchy software, or you’ll have to wait (and hope) that these companies are willing to redesign their products. On the iPhone OS that’s a fast and easy prospect (cheap too) – on OS X it will take more of a commitment on their part.

Photoshop et all already make use of multitouch, using a multitouch monitor for photoshop and similar a scribe would be the most natural solution when not using fingers. Most important is to get the benefits of old tech - pen and paper alongside the benefits of new input methods. This means being able to use it flat on a table like a pen and paper.

4) Your big fat imprecise finger is not the same thing as a cursor. Why do you think the iPhone’s icons are the size and shape they are? Anything smaller and you would be constantly activating the wrong ones. Something like Photoshop, where you need precise input, would be a nightmare.

On the iphone yes it would but not on a big display, a scribe is still probably the best input device for photoshop when doing detailed work.
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100% B.S.

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The iPad IS the Apple tablet. There is no other secret Contact style second tablet coming out.
 
Not sure this is the best thread to state this but god knows there is a ton of Ipad threads.

While I have always thought the iPad will be successful, I have started to think about why the iPad make so much more sense that a tablet computer running osX. Technically what is the market for a tablet stricktly running Snow Leopard? How many users would take advantage and really buy the device? What is the need? Would this type of really be the key to increase the vastly smaller library of programs that would run under OSX compared to offerings for MS? An OSX style tablet to be effective with adequate storage, Ram, battery life, Etc to run all of the regular osX Apps would cost way more than current laptops making it a real niche device and not a success (i.e. many devices sold).

The iPad running iphone OS makes sense since there are far more apps under the App store vs. equvalent full applications, games, etc that are avail to run under OSX. The iPad is needed as an intermediate device to get programs written to take advantage of the larger screen. The Ipad is also a low cost for high adoption. But once the iPad is released and developers make new richer Apps to take advantage of the interface and new menu options etc. it then opens the door for a new version of OSX that also runs Apps store App on multitouch laptops, tablets or even desktops since these apps already take advantage of larger screen realestate.

Seems Apple is building from the Mobile side up to take advantage of larger screen real estate so the Apps can then take advantage of laptop & Imac size screens. On the Laptop and iMac side with the larger screens, they have been integrating and working more and more multi-touch into the mix.
 
str1f3 said:
Apple had better watch out because early designs of the Chrome OS tablets are what I hoped Apple would release:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/02/01/chrome-os-tablet-video/

Unlike the Courier, this video actually looks like it could come to reality. Surprise! It also has multitasking. OS 4.0 had really better be something special considering no improvements have been made since 3.0.
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Looks pretty huge. Not very portable. How are you gonna sit on the couch with it?

This is much closer to what I think we'll see once we get some native apps for the iPad screen size. All of this is 100% achievable with the iPad now. 🙂

Mag+ by Bonnier

Are you listening magazine publishers?
 
donbadman said:
Why would it need another OS? OSX would be fine surely?


Photoshop et all already make use of multitouch, using a multitouch monitor for photoshop and similar a scribe would be the most natural solution when not using fingers. Most important is to get the benefits of old tech - pen and paper alongside the benefits of new input methods. This means being able to use it flat on a table like a pen and paper.

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Well, if you put it that way then the iPhone is OS X too so they really have only one OS, but if they had a touch capable Snow Leopard that would be a 3rd version of OS X. It would require it’s own updates.

I wasn’t aware Photoshop was written for a touch screen – but most software titles aren’t. If this weren’t a big deal then the Slate PCs running Windows 7 would be showing off like crazy.
 
carmenodie said:
Let me shave your point down to simplicity.
If it don't work for you, don't buy it. Period. End of.
We don't need the long and winding road of so-called flaws and setbacks speech. Sony makes a video camera costing well above $60,000. I ain't buying it. And you won't catch me writing a thesis on why I don 't need it.
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Exactly. All these people think that they have a brilliant argument that will make everyone change their mind about the iPad.

I'm buying one because I don't want the uselessness of a smartphone, but can't afford the usefulness of a mac
 
tdmac said:
Not sure this is the best thread to state this but god knows there is a ton of Ipad threads.

While I have always thought the iPad will be successful, I have started to think about why the iPad make so much more sense that a tablet computer running osX. Technically what is the market for a tablet stricktly running Snow Leopard? How many users would take advantage and really buy the device? What is the need? Would this type of really be the key to increase the vastly smaller library of programs that would run under OSX compared to offerings for MS? An OSX style tablet to be effective with adequate storage, Ram, battery life, Etc to run all of the regular osX Apps would cost way more than current laptops making it a real niche device and not a success (i.e. many devices sold).

The iPad running iphone OS makes sense since there are far more apps under the App store vs. equvalent full applications, games, etc that are avail to run under OSX. The iPad is needed as an intermediate device to get programs written to take advantage of the larger screen. The Ipad is also a low cost for high adoption. But once the iPad is released and developers make new richer Apps to take advantage of the interface and new menu options etc. it then opens the door for a new version of OSX that also runs Apps store App on multitouch laptops, tablets or even desktops since these apps already take advantage of larger screen realestate.

Seems Apple is building from the Mobile side up to take advantage of larger screen real estate so the Apps can then take advantage of laptop & Imac size screens. On the Laptop and iMac side with the larger screens, they have been integrating and working more and more multi-touch into the mix.
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I agree 100%

Besides you need a lean OS to run on a tablet like this. If a full version of OS X was on something like the iPad…
Think of a MacBook Air cut in half, only slower, less powerful, and a worse battery life.
 
Finally apple releasing info prior to launch to gather intel from the masses. I say smaller screen 14" for better portability. A simple GUI change to some icons would acomodate ease of use. Do not intergrate OLED because of outdoor viewing dificulties. Also do not forget USB and front facing camera. Loose the bezel compensate with width if you need to. And how about an easy dual boot of osx and iPhone os. iPhone loads faster and is great for ebooks.

Lastly: it's bad enough I have to put up with those gross commercials on tv. Please loose the stupid name and pay off whoever copyrighted the name you realy wanted.
 
rowspaxe said:
you might have a dual boot os imac 22"--that could switch from touch to leapard with soft boot--i don't think touch is good on a desktop, but apple may think they are redefining everything--interesting--hope its shaped like a big iphone--lol
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why would you need to do a soft boot. You can already run iPhone OS on OS X via the xcode simulator. It wouldn't be very difficult for Apple to make iPhone OS part of normal OS X
 
OmegaPhi said:
Loose the bezel compensate with width if you need to.
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There's a reason the iPad has the bezel. You have to be able to hold the thing without engaging the screen. 🙄

The iPad is the tablet. There is no OS X secret "other" tablet coming out from Apple.
 
skellener said:
There's a reason the iPad has the bezel. You have to be able to hold the thing without engaging the screen. 🙄

The iPad is the tablet. There is no OS X secret "other" tablet coming out from Apple.
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Your right but it's to much bezel they need to trim it a little. Don't you think?
 
This makes perfect sense to me...

Regardless of the hype, the iPad is a huge disappointment for me. I was expecting Apple to exceed all expectations and deliver a Mac OS X-based product for the tablet. People such as myself are looking for a product that will allow us to do some serious work while mobile like say... fire up XCode and get some development done. I already have an iPod Touch and I can do everything on it that is suggested on the iPad except see things on a larger screen. I'm waiting for the MacPad Touch or whatever it will b called!
 
skellener said:
Looks pretty huge. Not very portable. How are you gonna sit on the couch with it?

This is much closer to what I think we'll see once we get some native apps for the iPad screen size. All of this is 100% achievable with the iPad now. 🙂

Mag+ by Bonnier

Are you listening magazine publishers?
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It's a concept but it's not the kind of concept that can easily be reality. I seriously doubt it will be the size of the MS's Surface on your lap.

It may be achievable with the iPad but Apple has shown no indication of doing this. The Chrome OS pad actually shows multitasking and will be an open platform unlike Apple. Right now Apple is too busy telling the makers of Stanza that they can't have the ability to sync books over the proprietary dock connector anymore.
 
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