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Let me shave your point down to simplicity.
If it don't work for you, don't buy it. Period. End of.
We don't need the long and winding road of so-called flaws and setbacks speech. Sony makes a video camera costing well above $60,000. I ain't buying it. And you won't catch me writing a thesis on why I don 't need it.

I'm not trying to convince you of anythjng. I guess everyone should calm down about this ipad. Things Are starting to feel too "personal". Please read well the post i was refferring before stating i'm denying the usefulness of the ipad. I was referring to a post saying that Internet won't be used anymore on desktop computers because the ipad will substitute if for Internet browsing.

God i hate explaining a post
 
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tonyhunterajh said:
Regardless of the hype, the iPad is a huge disappointment for me. I was expecting Apple to exceed all expectations and deliver a Mac OS X-based product for the tablet. People such as myself are looking for a product that will allow us to do some serious work while mobile like say... fire up XCode and get some development done. I already have an iPod Touch and I can do everything on it that is suggested on the iPad except see things on a larger screen. I'm waiting for the MacPad Touch or whatever it will b called!

What's wrong with a laptop for "serious work" ? I thought that's what they were for.
 
Steve Wozniak is on the board for Axiotron. I'm not sure if him and SJ have chats but if they did i'm sure if he heard something about an actual tablet he wouldn't have signed up to be on the board.

Just a thought hope there is a tablet but I don't think so.
 
Steve Wozniak is on the board for Axiotron. I'm not sure if him and SJ have chats but if they did i'm sure if he heard something about an actual tablet he wouldn't have signed up to be on the board.

Just a thought hope there is a tablet but I don't think so.

Woz is kind of wacky and he would do something like that just for kicks because he's so rich. There is also some question to what extent he's actually involved in Axiotron. He's just a board member.

As for Woz and Jobs, supposedly they rarely speak. I doubt that Jobs would tell Woz anything since Woz has the tendency to speak whatever is on his mind to the media.

I don't know if such a tablet exists and I'm really getting sick of the word tablet. I'm just waiting for the updated MBPs now after my disappointment with the iPad.
 
Regardless of the hype, the iPad is a huge disappointment for me. I was expecting Apple to exceed all expectations and deliver a Mac OS X-based product for the tablet. ------ I'm waiting for the MacPad Touch or whatever it will b called!

ITS CALLED THE MODBOOK

Its been out for 3 years and noone has bought it.

Doesn't that tell you something about the market for such a product?

Yes, its just you and Woz - he got one for free and you won't buy it.

Meanwhile there are millions out there waiting for a computer you don't need to know about computers to work - rather like the iPhone.
 
ITS CALLED THE MODBOOK

Its been out for 3 years and noone has bought it.

Doesn't that tell you something about the market for such a product?

Yes, its just you and Woz - he got one for free and you won't buy it.

Meanwhile there are millions out there waiting for a computer you don't need to know about computers to work - rather like the iPhone.


How do you know no one bought them? Do you have sales?

I have never seen a Macbook Air in the wild but I am sure people have them.
 
How do you know no one bought them? Do you have sales?

Nope - how many have they sold?

I have been reading macrumors for the past 2 years and had never HEARD of them till this week.

Noone i have met on this board is singing their praises, and LOADS of people are saying they wish apple made an tablet with full OSX oblivious to the fact that Woz himself has helped this apple-approved device into being.

So while I am not right in saying noone has bough them - I am not that wrong.

Its the response to a question very few people are willing to pay money to see answered.

I'm sure its a great piece of tech - but if apple had launched it instead of the ipad - about a dozen would have bought it

I have never seen a Macbook Air in the wild but I am sure people have them.

Derren Brown has one. Met him at breakfast after a gig, lovely mentalist, neat MBA. And lots of posters here say they have them.

Is anyone here going to buy a modbook?

Anyone?
 
Nope - how many have they sold?

I have been reading macrumors for the past 2 years and had never HEARD of them till this week.

Noone i have met on this board is singing their praises, and LOADS of people are saying they wish apple made an tablet with full OSX oblivious to the fact that Woz himself has helped this apple-approved device into being.

So while I am not right in saying noone has bough them - I am not that wrong.

Its the response to a question very few people are willing to pay money to see answered.

I'm sure its a great piece of tech - but if apple had launched it instead of the ipad - about a dozen would have bought it

The whole entire world is not on macrumors so just because someone did not come on here and declare they have a modbook doesn't mean no one bought one. In fact I remember seeing posts made by people who owned modbooks on a tablet forum. So, yes people do have them.

It's meant for graphic designers specifically not the average consumer.


Derren Brown has one. Met him at breakfast after a gig, lovely mentalist, neat MBA. And lots of posters here say they have them.

Is anyone here going to buy a modbook?

Anyone?

And how many MBs,MBPs did you see?

The MBA is a small niche luxury item it's not a huge success as the other notebooks. Like I said I am sure that people have them but the chances of spotting said people with them is few and far between.


You also can't use the success of a third party company as a basis that an Apple branded tablet would fail. Apple tablet would probably be geared towards a broader audience then a modbook and since they get press it would get more notice.
 
ipad with iphone OS and forced itune store downloads = not interested
ipad with os X AND iphone OS as emulation if I want to = win, I ll buy two. One for me and one for the girlfriend.

I don t want to keep being locked to the itune store and I want to develop apps I can distribute to my clients WITHOUT Apple sticking their nose into our stuff or having to give it to the whole world. how hard is it to understand?

There is no way to make apps just for your clients, they MUST be sanctioned by apple and available to anybody in the world. Screw you.
 
ipad with iphone OS and forced itune store downloads = not interested
ipad with os X AND iphone OS as emulation if I want to = win, I ll buy two. One for me and one for the girlfriend.

I don t want to keep being locked to the itune store and I want to develop apps I can distribute to my clients WITHOUT Apple sticking their nose into our stuff or having to give it to the whole world. how hard is it to understand?

There is no way to make apps just for your clients, they MUST be sanctioned by apple and available to anybody in the world. Screw you.

Yes there is. You need an enterprise distribution certificate.
 
ipad with iphone OS and forced itune store downloads = not interested
ipad with os X AND iphone OS as emulation if I want to = win, I ll buy two. One for me and one for the girlfriend.

What's wrong with the modbook?

Oh yes - its the 'Boss Hoss' of computing.

Ask a teenager if they want a motorbike with a chevy V8 in it - and they will drool and nod

But ask them to pay for something so overpowered and overspecced that it needs an oversized fuel tank to fill a potential it was not designed to handle - they will mysteriously not be queuing up at your sales counter.

A motorbike needs a light engine and there is a ceiling on what is a sensible power output for all manner of reasons from fuel economy to how much power you are ever going to use.

I don't see anyone here who cries for "more power" putting their money where here mouth is and BUYING a modbook. Do you?
 
ITS CALLED THE MODBOOK

Its been out for 3 years and noone has bought it.

Doesn't that tell you something about the market for such a product?

It tells me you don't know the first thing about what your'e talking about. They sold the hell out of those things. There's still often a wait list. And that against some pretty tall odds. The modbook was delayed what, 18 months, and they still sold like crazy. The modbook pro they've been taking advanced orders on, at $5000, for over a year, and it's still no closer to coming out than it was back then. The market's big enough that Wacom still sells the hell out of expensive Cintiq's and Intuos tablets to the mac base.

I bought five modbooks for our designers, and you know what? They suck. Yeah, I said it. They suck. All five of em have some problem or other that keeps them from working smoothly or consistently. Wonky drivers, underpowered hardware, with an operating system not designed for the hardware. Yes, if Apple did one, a lot more people would be willing to use one. The market is a lot bigger than some of you think. Tablets still have yet to be done right by anyone, win or mac. What's upsetting is, it's always the consumers who can clearly see what's needed, and the MFG's either have no idea or don't know how to get it done. It's inevitable though, and when it happens, it'll be huge.

But hey, I'm sure keyboards and mice are the future of computing, & not the past. God forbid anyone do anything other than read websites & type basic documents on their computer.

Woz is on the board in name only. He likes this kind of clever cannibalistic gadgety stuff and is happy to say so. If he liked your project, would you charge him for a sample?
 
Here's a nice concept mockup from Google:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=debO2FroXA0

A similar Apple version would be cool. I'm not sure Apple is willing to include this sort of functionality though, it seems like they hitched their wagon to the iPhone OS style interface.

I'm not sure wat we're supposed to be seeing here. Is this a mockup of the most rudimentary concept of multi-touch interface? How is this any different than what every other multitouch device does? ...which is, as little as possible. Hey, with my big fat finger, I can tap on a pre-arranged menu item. ...and woaaaah, mooove it arouuuund with two hands. Just imagine all the work I'll get done moving windows around.

Fingertip touch displays are cute, but worthless for any kind of work requiring any degree of accuracy. Their ideal implementation is... a large ipod touch.

A real tablet with which to do real work, will require a stylus.



Fingers & ACD = Fingerpainting
Stylus & digitizer = Pen, Pencil & Paper

Which do you see being used more?
 
It tells me you don't know the first thing about what your'e talking about.

Indeed not, hadn't heard of them till last week - they are a niche product.

So niche in fact that even people are asking for "more power" tablets don't seem to know about them. Which was my point.

The OSX tablet is a fantastic pro product for a select few, the iPad is a mass communication tool designed for ordinary people to do more than work.

I am glad someone is trying to make a tablet OSX, but I wouldn't really be scratching the surface of what it would do - good luck in finding one that works.
 
Yes, when they're not $5000, or if I wake up one day and I'm suddenly loaded, I'd get a ModBook Pro in a heartbeat.

Its your lucky day then - They are £1,600

But the only person here who has invested in this great idea says the implementation leaves a lot to be desired.
 
How long can you hold it like that before your arm gets tired?

I don't know, I've never made a science out of it.

So niche in fact that even people are asking for "more power" tablets don't seem to know about them. Which was my point.

I think the people asking for "more power" tablets that don't seem to know about them ultimately don't need one. For instance, a quick google hunt and I found out about Axiotron - it wasn't hard to find. I'm sure they're are plenty of people griping about tablets for argument's sake, that's just the internet for you

Its your lucky day then - They are £1,600

But the only person here who has invested in this great idea says the implementation leaves a lot to be desired.

I went from a Cintiq 12WX to a Cintiq 21UX because I needed a bigger drawing area than what the 12WX could offer(Wacom can't seem to fix the configurability issue of losing sensitivity at the sides of the screen , so I was effectively working on an 10-11" area anyway). Knowing this, I couldn't get a ModBook, it'd have to be ModBook Pro for that extra bit of room. Also I'd appreciate the peppier processor and GPU options beyond bragging rights - I'm working on a MacBook now and it groans a little when I push 50MB .psds on it.... I just wish the ModBook Pro was a little more affordable. Until then, my tablet usage is kept to the wild indoors.
 
I think the people asking for "more power" tablets that don't seem to know about them ultimately don't need one.

Too True!

Good luck finding a modbook that works - when they get it right it will be awesome!
 
this rumor is more wishful thinking that actually a rumor.

still funny how much even ridiculous rumors can still gain so much attention and chatter..
 
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