And you keep arguing with me that apple needs to kill 16GB

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by chupachup, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. chupachup, Sep 18, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2014

    chupachup macrumors 6502

    Sep 1, 2013
    Every time I come on here and say apple has to kill the 16gb I have people arguing. The last guy said "why would they kill their best selling device" hahaha.

    I just now have a guy arguing that for him 32GB isn't enough anyway. Another dumb argument.

    So here it is

    iOS 8 requires nearly 5GB free space in your phone.

    How can you people argue with me? I am telling you that apple has to kill the 16 GB. But they killed the 32GB one instead. It is ridiculous. It makes no sense.

    I know the argument now will be to just plug it into iTunes. You're wrong. The answer is to kill the 16GB. It no longer makes sense. It is a rip off.
  2. PTLove macrumors 6502

    Sep 12, 2014
    Or they could just offer external MicroSD extention like android has for years.

    HAHA no no that would eat into their 60% markup pricing :(
  3. catean macrumors 6502


    Jun 16, 2013
    Timisoara, Romania
    In 2014, when only the OS Update needs almost 6GB free, the capacity options should be 64/128/256. My wife was struggling yesterday to install iOS8 on a 64GB Iphone 5S.
  4. Taco1933 macrumors 6502

    Aug 14, 2014
    Because 11gb is still plenty for tons of people. Many use web browsing, email, texting and only a handful of apps. They don't need more than 16. They won't until iOS doubles its current size. For the rest of us, we just got an extra 32g for the same price we would have paid anyway, so who cares?
  5. MisterMankind macrumors newbie

    Sep 17, 2014
    Having had smartphones with SD-slots: I hated them. Having to shuffle apps around between the internal storage and the SD card and never quite getting why I couldn't move some of them sucked big time. Call me too stupid to deal with this kind of stuff, but it simply wasn't user-friendly at all. Internal storage is way better (and tremendously faster, by the way), like e.g. in the iPhones or the HTC One M7.
  6. ditzy macrumors 68000


    Sep 28, 2007
    For the customer it's great if the basic phone came with 32GB. For Apple not so much. They want people to buy the higher storage phones, and while a lot of people will need to have more storage than 16GB so will upgrade not as many will have to from 32GB.
  7. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    Well, she shouldn't struggle at 64GB to install 6GB of an OS unless she has a ton of media. In that case, I suppose it makes some sense.
    I'm never really sure if you are truly bent out of shape that the 16GB iPhone is still available today. If memory serves, I was not one who argued with you and it appeared many agreed with you. Not that your so-called argument wasn't something that hasn't been said numerous times by others. But let's be real, "you people" that you refer to only includes a small handful of responders who seemed to disagree with you in your last "kill the 16GB thread." Your accusatory and attention-grabbing thread title is fairly inaccurate. "You" [we] are not all arguing with you and I certainly don't see why you're so incredibly bent about things.

    Notwithstanding, killing the 32GB simply did not make a whole lot of sense to me. I stand by everything I've ever written about the 16GB being something that cannot sustain today's apps, photos, and OS updates. It seemed like the 32GB would even struggle but I think the 64GB will be just fine.

    If it makes you feel better or helps you not be so bent about it, there are many that agree with you and every other person who has mentioned that the 16GB is too small and without the ability to use add-on storage, any iPhone user with a phone that has limited capacity will feel the struggle even if they don't load a ton of media on their device.
  8. miamialley macrumors 68030


    Jul 28, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    You must be really pissed about the 8GB model!
  9. wx4olf macrumors regular


    Jun 15, 2010

    Yeah, people's needs vary. Right now I'm only using 8.9 GB on my 32 GB iPhone 5 and over a gig of that is podcasts that could easily stream. Based on my usage habits I can see how a low storage option is viable and guess that for people who use the phone for simple texting, web, some music, and a handful of apps 16 GB could actually be acceptable.
  10. chupachup thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 1, 2013
    That's apple having a laugh at you guys' expense.

    No phone with 16GB in 2014 has no expandable storage. If the phone has no SD card, then the minimum is 32GB.

    Add the slow mo, better cameras, full HD videos, and your iPhone will fill up very quickly.

    The 16GB needs to die. Only apple can get away with selling you an iPhone 6 16GB with no SD card and an 8MP camera for $750. It is unbelievable.


    Then it is crazy to spend that much money on a flagship phone just to browse and check your email.
  11. ajm222 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 19, 2012
    ios 8 itself is ~1gb. the 5gb is needed for updating OTA (because it has to store the compressed file, the uncompressed update and the previous version of ios7). if you plug into itunes you only need the ~1gb of space.
  12. chupachup thread starter macrumors 6502

    Sep 1, 2013
    I spent $1,000 on a shiny iPhone. I Browse the internet and check Facebook with it. That's about it.

    Get a free phone on contract. Take the $1,000 and go travel abroad. See the world before you die.


    Read the end of my original post again. I predicted you would say this.

    Remember when Steve jobs stood in front of an iPhone graphic with scissors cutting the cord?

    I'm running the latest version of android. I've never plugged in this phone to a computer other than to copy and paste music. Copy and paste, not sync.
  13. Taco1933 macrumors 6502

    Aug 14, 2014
    $200 (or less) every 2 years isn't that much money.
  14. kupkakez macrumors 68000


    Apr 4, 2011
    What does it matter if people spent $1000 on a phone to browse the internet? I mean what else do you really do with it?

    I do agree that in this day in age the 16gb models need to go.
  15. rockhopper353 macrumors member

    Jul 1, 2014
    So when I receive my 16gb iPhone plus is it possible to free up memory via iTunes or will I lose 5gb of space with the pre installed IOS 8 ?
  16. urkel macrumors 68030

    Nov 3, 2008
    I think a good ole "What the heck are you talking about" is in order here. :D

    Of course 16GB is too small for a 2014 device. The OS, larger video/photo files, lots of apps and that unmanageable "Other Files" section just eat up so much space. Yes, 16GB is barely enough.

    But Apple's job isn't to be a responsible tech company that ensures everyone has enough storage. And their reputation of "providing the best experience" is more a tagline than truth. Their job is to make money. And they do that by selling more phones and online subscription storage options.

    So, while its clear to us that 16GB is too little, it makes perfect sense for why it exists.
  17. madeirabhoy macrumors 6502a

    Oct 26, 2012

    if you have to upgrade the phone, then you will need over 5 gigs free (my ipad needed 5.8 gigs free), but after it installs it will have taken up less than 1 gigs of space. it needs so much space as it has to keep a whole copy of the installation file, plus i guess it also keeps copy of the old files until the installation is finished and checked.

    once its installed though it wont make any difference whether you installed OTA or itunes.



    dont know why im grinning. finally looking to replace my old 3GS 16gb, cant afford, or rather wouldnt pay the money they want for a 6 in portugal, but if i want a 5c, i can only get an 8gb which is a drop.

    i dont mind 16gb, with itunes match and PLEX theres plenty of space, but 8gb will be a squeeze.
  18. dave420 macrumors 65816

    Jun 15, 2010
    Chupachup, I agree with you 100%. It really is funny so many people in here defending the choice to have a 16 GB model saying they will never need more space, and then it's probably the same people in here saying that they don't have enough space to upgrade their iOS version over the air. I really don't understand why people are in here begging for Apple to keep the 16 GB model.

    And don't even get me started on the fact that Apple just released the 8 GB 5c here in the USA. If you have barely anything installed then you have to update using a computer.

    I'm glad Apple at least lowered the price of the 64 GB model, which I have been using since the 4S. That is a step in the right direction.
  19. 617aircav Suspended

    Jul 2, 2012
    There is no such thing as Should. People have a choice.
  20. HiRez macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2004
    Western US
    Look, sure it's possible for people to deal with 16 GB. But it is indisputable that many people will run into problems down the road with it (I'm one of them, with my 4S). Especially once apps start updating with 3X graphics assets packed into them, not to mention 1080p 60 fps video and future iOS upgrades, which always grow, not shrink.

    The point is the cost for Apple to bump 16 GB to 32 GB is absurdly low and would be well worth doing just so they don't tarnish their brand when people get frustrated with their purchase later on.
  21. ajm222 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 19, 2012
    Your new phone will come with iOS 8 already installed and it will only take up 1gb of space. You won't have to do anything. If you want to upgrade over the air when the next version of iOS comes out, you'll probably have to have around 5gb of available space to do so (though when it's done installing you won't need all that space). Or you can plug into iTunes and you will only need about 1gb of space available to update your phone - because itunes and your computer will do most of the work.
  22. Cool Pup macrumors 6502a

    Cool Pup

    Jun 18, 2010
    Dallas, TX
    I agree, 16gb is WAY too small for anything in 2014. I hope that the 6s has the 32gb as the main, that is plenty for most people at the moment.
  23. EdMan macrumors 6502


    Oct 17, 2011
    That's exactly how much I have used on my 32gb iPhone 5.:) And I ordered the 64gb iP6. Seriously doubt I will ever come close to filling unless my habits change dramatically.
  24. rockhopper353 macrumors member

    Jul 1, 2014
    Clearly explained I'm coming from a galaxy s3 so wasn't sure how it worked, hopefully 16gb will suffice as I don't store any music on the phone, many thanks.
  25. ajm222 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 19, 2012
    I read your full post. I was clarifying for people that saw your comment about iOS 8 requiring 5gb of available storage and thought that's how much space ios 8 takes up on the phone, and who might not be aware that's only needed, temporarily, if you update OTA.

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