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BTW a shout out to Ben Mendelsohn's portrayal of Director Orson Krennic - he was really scary - the bit when he put his finger on Deedra's head shocked me, it was apparently improvised by Ben Mendelsohn and caught Denise Gough by surprise.
Ben Mendelshohn, I loved him in Captain Marvel and I highly recommend Bloodline, Netflix if you've not watched it already. Very excellent, seems like he spends a lot of time cast as a heavy...

 
The entire cast was good, not just the women. Coincidentally, mostly British

But I do recall reading Gough commenting that she wouldn't have taken the role if the writing wasn't good.

It was a top-notch production -- writing, casting, acting, etc.

As with Ferrix, Ghorman was built as a practical set on the back lot; not as reliant on the video walls, or green screens, used on the other series and movies. Kleya's elderly hospital companion was a puppet.

I don't know if it was improvised, or scripted, but Lagret's reaction after Partagaz did his thing was another nice touch. Given how he handled the chaos when he was off shift, I wasn't expecting him to last, or certainly outlast Partagaz.
 
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The entire cast was good, not just the women. Coincidentally, mostly British

But I do recall reading Gough commenting that she wouldn't have taken the role if the writing wasn't good.

It was a top-notch production -- writing, casting, acting, etc.

As with Ferrix, Ghorman was built as a practical set on the back lot; not as reliant on the video walls, or green screens, used on the other series and movies. Kleya's elderly hospital companion was a puppet.

I don't know if it was improvised, or scripted, but Lagret's reaction after Partagaz did his thing was another nice touch. Given how he handled the chaos when he was off shift, I wasn't expecting him to last, or certainly outlast Partagaz.
Oh yes, of course the male cast was terrific. As were the droids. :D The sets too, the bar has been set really high, too high maybe. :confused:

One more thing, the MAGA types probably had a fit with the diverse cast you can see for example in the ISB conference room. Except in-universe they aren't. Let me see who can tell me why. ;)
 
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The entire cast was good, not just the women. Coincidentally, mostly British

But I do recall reading Gough commenting that she wouldn't have taken the role if the writing wasn't good.

It was a top-notch production -- writing, casting, acting, etc.

As with Ferrix, Ghorman was built as a practical set on the back lot; not as reliant on the video walls, or green screens, used on the other series and movies. Kleya's elderly hospital companion was a puppet.

I don't know if it was improvised, or scripted, but Lagret's reaction after Partagaz did his thing was another nice touch. Given how he handled the chaos when he was off shift, I wasn't expecting him to last, or certainly outlast Partagaz.
I wondered about the sets, practical or virtual. Ghorman seemed to be physical based on the mechanics, steps and such. 🤔
 
I wondered about the sets, practical or virtual. Ghorman seemed to be physical based on the mechanics, steps and such. 🤔

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Ghorman and Chandrila: Creating the Worlds of Andor Season 2

at a cost


Disney stretched in many ways to make Andor, and we're lucky it did.
 
#12 and 13

Ghorman and Chandrila: Creating the Worlds of Andor Season 2

at a cost


Disney stretched in many ways to make Andor, and we're lucky it did.

Finished it last night... Really liked it and we sooooooo need more of this!
 
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#12 and 13

Ghorman and Chandrila: Creating the Worlds of Andor Season 2

at a cost


Disney stretched in many ways to make Andor, and we're lucky it did.
And they finally contributed something of worth to SWs…Rogue One included if they (Disney) were involved, I assume so, as compared to all the failures.
 
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And they finally contributed something of worth to SWs…Rogue One included if they (Disney) were involved, I assume so, as compared to all the failures.

From a non-fanatical point of view, I think it's has been a mixed bag.

Disney can't be blamed for the prequels; that's on Lucas. The last trilogy, and the character movies suffered from hiring the wrong people, more than once, and desire to go back to the same trough one too many times. More of a commercial than creative exercise. Imagine if all the dead projects that never came to fruition were actually made.

Kennedy will be gone by the end of the year, and whomever they pick to replace her, whether one person, or several, have the chance to right the ship.

But I do hope that, like Ryan Reynolds suggests, they take a chance on some adult beverages, rather than the just serving sweet sodas all the time.
 
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From a non-fanatical point of view, I think it's has been a mixed bag.

Disney can't be blamed for the prequels; that's on Lucas. The last trilogy, and the character movies suffered from hiring the wrong people, more than once, and desire to go back to the same trough one too many times. More of a commercial than creative exercise. Imagine if all the dead projects that never came to fruition were actually made.

Kennedy will be gone by the end of the year, and whomever they pick to replace her, whether one person, or several, have the chance to right the ship.

But I do hope that, like Ryan Reynolds suggests, they take a chance on some adult beverages, rather than the just serving sweet sodas all the time.
More than anything else, what upset me was the lack of planning. Disney was handed a respected IP and they betrayed the three primary characters (and their actors). And someone, somewhere should have recognized that based on life history, the first movie should have been Carrie Fisher's.

I don't know if Kennedy will be gone as you say. She has said she isn't going anywhere. One can hope. But I do find it interesting in a car crash sort of way that the same group that can give us the garbage of the three sequels also put out Rogue One and Andor. It shows they are capable anyway.

I think however, that a writer being protective might also have something to do with it. Gilroy knew that if HE did not write Kleya and Luthen's backstory, then somewhere, sometime, someone else WOULD. And it would be canon and out of his control. So, he wrote it. And now it's canon and no one can change it.

It's obvious that no one writing the sequels cared that way.
 
From a non-fanatical point of view, I think it's has been a mixed bag.

Disney can't be blamed for the prequels; that's on Lucas. The last trilogy, and the character movies suffered from hiring the wrong people, more than once, and desire to go back to the same trough one too many times. More of a commercial than creative exercise. Imagine if all the dead projects that never came to fruition were actually made.

Kennedy will be gone by the end of the year, and whomever they pick to replace her, whether one person, or several, have the chance to right the ship.

But I do hope that, like Ryan Reynolds suggests, they take a chance on some adult beverages, rather than the just serving sweet sodas all the time.
>>But I do hope that, like Ryan Reynolds suggests, they take a chance on some adult beverages, rather than the just serving sweet sodas all the time.<< 😍
 
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More than anything else, what upset me was the lack of planning. Disney was handed a respected IP and they betrayed the three primary characters (and their actors). And someone, somewhere should have recognized that based on life history, the first movie should have been Carrie Fisher's.

There has certainly been mismanagement of the property.

I don't know if Kennedy will be gone as you say. She has said she isn't going anywhere. One can hope. But I do find it interesting in a car crash sort of way that the same group that can give us the garbage of the three sequels also put out Rogue One and Andor. It shows they are capable anyway.

She says she will hand over the reins, but remain as a producer on the projects that she's involved with.

As I've posed before, it would have been interesting if someone like Kevin Feige, who resurrected the Marvel franchise for Disney, had been given the reins instead. Of course, he's also shown that the success rate is not 100%, and external factors have also weighed on the property of late, including audience fatigue.

No doubt it is a difficult job, that requires being adept at balancing the creative aspects and the business aspects.

Favreau and Filoni are naturally mentioned as possible successors, one or both, but there are doubts whether they'd want to deal with the business side, which is a greater part of the job.

I think however, that a writer being protective might also have something to do with it. Gilroy knew that if HE did not write Kleya and Luthen's backstory, then somewhere, sometime, someone else WOULD. And it would be canon and out of his control. So, he wrote it. And now it's canon and no one can change it.

It's obvious that no one writing the sequels cared that way.

Not being an insider, or a character familiar to the franchise or genre (though he was part of the Bourne franchise) worked in his favor. As well as a lot of the actors, who didn't come in with, or feel the burden, weight, or whatever baggage comes with entering, and becoming part of the SW universe.

For them, they wanted to tell a good story, and had no qualms about declining to participate if they didn't feel the quality was up to snuff.

That also applied to the other principals, like the directors and other writers. Some of the best dialogue in the series (including Luthen's first encounter with Lonnie) was written by Beau Willimon, whose creative CV reflects that, and also worked professionally as a political speechwriter.

It sounds simple, and stupid to repeat, but hiring the right people, and allowing them to do what they do, helps tremendously with the chances of success.
 
There has certainly been mismanagement of the property.



She says she will hand over the reins, but remain as a producer on the projects that she's involved with.

As I've posed before, it would have been interesting if someone like Kevin Feige, who resurrected the Marvel franchise for Disney, had been given the reins instead. Of course, he's also shown that the success rate is not 100%, and external factors have also weighed on the property of late, including audience fatigue.

No doubt it is a difficult job, that requires being adept at balancing the creative aspects and the business aspects.

Favreau and Filoni are naturally mentioned as possible successors, one or both, but there are doubts whether they'd want to deal with the business side, which is a greater part of the job.



Not being an insider, or a character familiar to the franchise or genre (though he was part of the Bourne franchise) worked in his favor. As well as a lot of the actors, who didn't come in with, or feel the burden, weight, or whatever baggage comes with entering, and becoming part of the SW universe.

For them, they wanted to tell a good story, and had no qualms about declining to participate if they didn't feel the quality was up to snuff.

That also applied to the other principals, like the directors and other writers. Some of the best dialogue in the series (including Luthen's first encounter with Lonnie) was written by Beau Willimon, whose creative CV reflects that, and also worked professionally as a political speechwriter.

It sounds simple, and stupid to repeat, but hiring the right people, and allowing them to do what they do, helps tremendously with the chances of success.
I can imagine people in the industry with principles and standards and others in it for $$$.
 
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