Android Jumps Past iOS in Overall U.S. Smartphone Usage

[rmwebs]

That it, you went with a less pollish phone because of Flash, well I am glad your happy with all that advertising. I must admit I have yet to miss it. Does anyone here except maybe porn miss flash at all. I for one do not. Brighter screen really ROFL now that is a funny one.

How is Android in any way 'less polished'? You are aware that you have total control over the UI right? And that you can swap out the 'launcher' (homescreen and app browsing) with another if you so wish...you can make an Android phone look a hell of a lot nicer than the iPhone's rather dull/stale UI, that I can tell you!

 

[PlipPlop]

The fact that Android phones are the most desirable should have Apple worried just as much as the unstoppable sales figures.

 

[Žalgiris]

And you proved what?

The fact that you are asking such an obvious thing makes me said.

The fact that Android phones are the most desirable should have Apple worried just as much as the unstoppable sales figures.

Wrong universe, pal.

 

[Žalgiris]

I think he meant USB mini port. Which BTW the iphone 5 HAS to have USB mini port if apple wants to continue to sell iPhones in Europe that is.

Missinformation spreading you are.

 

[MonkeySee....]

The fact that Android phones are the most desirable should have Apple worried just as much as the unstoppable sales figures.

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Not sure about other parts of the country but in the UK there will be a mountain of 3gs users just coming out of there 2 year contract this year and will probably punt for the new iPhone. So i'm sure Apple aren't too worried.

And why are so many people worried about customization. Its pretty sad.

 

[Michael Scrip]

After all, it's not the hardware that makes the money - it's the iTunes-supply chain.

WRONG

The iPhone gave Apple $12 Billion in revenue this past quarter.

iTunes? $1.4 Billion

Apple is, and has always been, a hardware company... unless you mean the iTunes ecosystem is the reason someone buys an iPhone.

And while we're at it... since Google sells software and services... how much money did Google make from Android? And... are people buying Android phones just so they have access to the Android Market?

Doubt it...

It was only a question of time until Android took the lead.

OK... Android has the lead... now what?

 

[bpaluzzi]

The fact that Android phones are the most desirable should have Apple worried just as much as the unstoppable sales figures.

It's funny how the iPhone still outsells each and every Android phone. Yup, Android is definitely most desirable.

 

[MH01]

I bought my iMac specifically for the hardware and design. The OS is a bonus.

Having OSX on plasticky piece of crap makes me feel sick.

Spot on!

My 27" iMac is an awesome monitor for my Gaming PC, name me another monitor that will also act as a server for torrents, movies, music etc while you game on it And its so so so so so sexy!

And thier lies the problem with mac owners.... owww sooo shiny! I am better then the other guy who does not own this sexy sexy shiny machine with the apple logo... no idea what the OS is called or what features its has... but damn it is sexy... I feel so much better about myself !!!!

 

[MonkeySee....]

Spot on!

My 27" iMac is an awesome monitor for my Gaming PC, name me another monitor that will also act as a server for torrents, movies, music etc while you game on it And its so so so so so sexy!

And thier lies the problem with mac owners.... owww sooo shiny! I am better then the other guy who does not own this sexy sexy shiny machine with the apple logo... no idea what the OS is called or what features its has... but damn it is sexy... I feel so much better about myself !!!!

Did you just praise and criticize me in the same post? haha

 

[MH01]

Did you just praise and criticize me in the same post? haha

Yeah I am trying a new approach on macrumors Dunno if it has merit.

Though really the Imac is an awesome monitor for a PC, you should try it!

On a serious note, the iMac is an awesome machine for anyone looking for a new computer. And yup I got mine for day to day tasks that do not involve grunt.

 

[baryon]

Do you actually leave your house? I see Android phones everywhere, and those are just the larger screen high-end slab models I can easily recognize. I probably miss many cheaper Android phones simply because I don't recognize them.

Yes, I do leave my house And from where I come from most people aren't rich enough to afford a smartphone, so the only ones I ever see are iPhones. Smartphones are starting to become popular but iPhones are by far the most well-known smartphones.

 

[MH01]

It's funny how the iPhone still outsells each and every Android phone. Yup, Android is definitely most desirable.

Thats not the point of the thread. Android v iOS - In the SmartPhone segment.

And lets not confuse desirable with realistic. I find the Aston Martin DB9 very desirable, but realisticaly I would have to settle on a Mitsubishi Evo X.... performance is not that far apart, but geez the Aston has much nicer finish etc. And thier lies the problem for alot of people... I phones are expansive. One man's trash is another man's treasure. In these economic times, expect the gap between iOS and Adroid to get bigger.

 

[zacman]

It's funny how the iPhone still outsells each and every Android phone. Yup, Android is definitely most desirable.

That's not true when it comes to carrier to carrier comparisons. The HTC ThunderBolt outsold the iPhone 4G on Verizon. I'm sure when you count all the HTC phones together that just have different names and slightly different design but the same specs all over the world then that HTC "phone design" will easily outsell the iPhone 4.

 

[bpaluzzi]

That's not true when it comes to carrier to carrier comparisons. The HTC ThunderBolt outsold the iPhone 4G on Verizon. I'm sure when you count all the HTC phones together that just have different names and slightly different design but the same specs all over the world then that HTC "phone design" will easily outsell the iPhone 4.

Yet another arbitrary dividing line by an Android fan. Color me surprised!

 

[Popeye206]

That's not true when it comes to carrier to carrier comparisons. The HTC ThunderBolt outsold the iPhone 4G on Verizon. I'm sure when you count all the HTC phones together that just have different names and slightly different design but the same specs all over the world then that HTC "phone design" will easily outsell the iPhone 4.

Don't you think you're splitting hairs? Besides, prove it... the Thunderbolt is new and not sure they've sold that many.

Also... I love the 39 steps to go through to optimize a Thunderbolt so you can get 6 hours of talk time from a battery. Nice feature.

 

[MonkeySee....]

That's not true when it comes to carrier to carrier comparisons. The HTC ThunderBolt outsold the iPhone 4G on Verizon. I'm sure when you count all the HTC phones together that just have different names and slightly different design but the same specs all over the world then that HTC "phone design" will easily outsell the iPhone 4.

So you're comparing all HTC phones released with one version of the iPhone?

 

[katewes]

Those that ignore history are bound to repeat it.

Apple is arrogant.

History shows that arrogant companies - that don't listen to their customers - are bound to fail eventually.

I've used Android and Windows Mobile 7 phones. I am an Apple fanboy for a few decades already, but Apple fans need to realise that, if a person who was not a fanboy used a Droid or Win7 phone, it would completely meet their needs.

Sure, arguably, I believe iOS is superior to Android - but history shows that the winner just has to be good enough, not necessarily the best.

This race will be decided over the course of a decade.

Massive companies can degrade into nothing if they don't follow the direction of the marketplace, e.g. Digital Equipment Corporation.

The same applies for mighty empires e.g. British Empire etc. No empire lasts forever.

A prime example of Apple's arrogance is its refusal to provide matte screens to the substantial minority of people who legitimately need matte screens. See the survey evidence at http://macmatte.wordpress.com You might not need a matte screen, and you might love glossy screens: but plenty of people do, such as many (not all) graphics professionals, photographers, people who suffer from eye-strain from the glare. Not all people, but many.

Microsoft went from dominant dictator to chump arguably in the space of around 5-7 years.

I would say that once Steve Jobs is forced to leave Apple through permanent ill health, Apple is zero. I'll explain why. Steve is the creative force of Apple, and once he leaves, Apple will be left with a culture of arrogance, insularity, self-important BUT MINUS THE JOBS GENIUS. In other words, Steve has sown the seeds of Apple's swift demise, even while he is there.

You might argue against what I've said, but history backs me up.

 

[rdlink]

inevitable as android devices are available everywhere and in every price segment. remember, half of all American workers earn $505 or less per week.

Hmmm. And yet they can afford a smart phone, when a cheap flip phone will give them communication...

 

[AlexisV]

Apple is arrogant.

History shows that arrogant companies - that don't listen to their customers - are bound to fail eventually.

So you are saying that because more people buy cheap phones, of which there is a large choice, Apple is doomed to fail?

Apple make far more profit with their single expensive model than HTC with their range of cheap, low margin products.

They're two different business models. Like comparing BMW to Kia. Nobody is saying BMW are in trouble because more people buy Kias!

A prime example of Apple's arrogance is its refusal to provide matte screens to the substantial minority of people who legitimately need matte screens. See the survey evidence at http://macmatte.wordpress.com You might not need a matte screen, and you might love glossy screens: but plenty of people do, such as many (not all) graphics professionals, photographers, people who suffer from eye-strain from the glare. Not all people, but many.

Where do you stop though? What if a lot of people want a bright pink iMac?

If you conduct straw polls amongst your customers they'll just tell you they want a faster horse.

 

[jayenh]

Thats not the point of the thread. Android v iOS - In the SmartPhone segment.

And lets not confuse desirable with realistic. I find the Aston Martin DB9 very desirable, but realisticaly I would have to settle on a Mitsubishi Evo X.... performance is not that far apart, but geez the Aston has much nicer finish etc. And thier lies the problem for alot of people... I phones are expansive. One man's trash is another man's treasure. In these economic times, expect the gap between iOS and Adroid to get bigger.

I think it's the other way round. It's not people settling for the cheaper option because they can't afford the iPhone, it's people thinking there is no need to spend the extra money. The iPhone isn't an out of the reach sports car, if someone wanted the iPhone badly enough they could just save that extra month or so longer and buy it. Us tech addicts on this forum and others like it are in the minority. Everyone says "most people don't care about specs, they just want something that works", well, contrary to macrumor forums myth, android does work. It makes calls and handles text/email, and in most cases this is the main thing people care about. If they're not using their phone heavily or require something offered only by the iPhone why spend the extra cash?

 

[MH01]

Those that ignore history are bound to repeat it.

Apple is arrogant.

History shows that arrogant companies - that don't listen to their customers - are bound to fail eventually.

I've used Android and Windows Mobile 7 phones. I am an Apple fanboy for a few decades already, but Apple fans need to realise that, if a person who was not a fanboy used a Droid or Win7 phone, it would completely meet their needs.

Sure, arguably, I believe iOS is superior to Android - but history shows that the winner just has to be good enough, not necessarily the best.

This race will be decided over the course of a decade.

Massive companies can degrade into nothing if they don't follow the direction of the marketplace, e.g. Digital Equipment Corporation.

The same applies for mighty empires e.g. British Empire etc. No empire lasts forever.

A prime example of Apple's arrogance is its refusal to provide matte screens to the substantial minority of people who legitimately need matte screens. See the survey evidence at http://macmatte.wordpress.com You might not need a matte screen, and you might love glossy screens: but plenty of people do, such as many (not all) graphics professionals, photographers, people who suffer from eye-strain from the glare. Not all people, but many.

Microsoft went from dominant dictator to chump arguably in the space of around 5-7 years.

I would say that once Steve Jobs is forced to leave Apple through permanent ill health, Apple is zero. I'll explain why. Steve is the creative force of Apple, and once he leaves, Apple will be left with a culture of arrogance, insularity, self-important BUT MINUS THE JOBS GENIUS. In other words, Steve has sown the seeds of Apple's swift demise, even while he is there.

You might argue against what I've said, but history backs me up.

Apple will fall and they will fall hard, and as you said, its all going to happen once Jobs is gone. While he is still around Apple fans can enjoy a golden era. Jobs = Apple.

 

[MonkeySee....]

Apple will fall and they will fall hard, and as you said, its all going to happen once Jobs is gone. While he is still around Apple fans can enjoy a golden era. Jobs = Apple.

Its amazing that one of the biggest companies in the whole world is run by one man.

They really will be in trouble if he leaves.

 

[MH01]

So you are saying that because more people buy cheap phones, of which there is a large choice, Apple is doomed to fail?

Apple make far more profit with their single expensive model than HTC with their range of cheap, low margin products.

They're two different business models. Like comparing BMW to Kia. Nobody is saying BMW are in trouble because more people buy Kias!
.

I believe he is referring to history repeating itself. Apple was in this position before, and those crappy cheap PCs won big time.

BMW and KIA? ummmm, Sorry but you are completely missing the Apple Business model.

 

[rdlink]

Those that ignore history are bound to repeat it.

Apple is arrogant.

History shows that arrogant companies - that don't listen to their customers - are bound to fail eventually.

I've used Android and Windows Mobile 7 phones. I am an Apple fanboy for a few decades already, but Apple fans need to realise that, if a person who was not a fanboy used a Droid or Win7 phone, it would completely meet their needs.

Sure, arguably, I believe iOS is superior to Android - but history shows that the winner just has to be good enough, not necessarily the best.

This race will be decided over the course of a decade.

Massive companies can degrade into nothing if they don't follow the direction of the marketplace, e.g. Digital Equipment Corporation.

The same applies for mighty empires e.g. British Empire etc. No empire lasts forever.

A prime example of Apple's arrogance is its refusal to provide matte screens to the substantial minority of people who legitimately need matte screens. See the survey evidence at http://macmatte.wordpress.com You might not need a matte screen, and you might love glossy screens: but plenty of people do, such as many (not all) graphics professionals, photographers, people who suffer from eye-strain from the glare. Not all people, but many.

Microsoft went from dominant dictator to chump arguably in the space of around 5-7 years.

I would say that once Steve Jobs is forced to leave Apple through permanent ill health, Apple is zero. I'll explain why. Steve is the creative force of Apple, and once he leaves, Apple will be left with a culture of arrogance, insularity, self-important BUT MINUS THE JOBS GENIUS. In other words, Steve has sown the seeds of Apple's swift demise, even while he is there.

You might argue against what I've said, but history backs me up.

Some of your arguments are not completely without merit. But I am no Apple fanboy, and I have owned 4 Android phones. I have sold/returned every one of them. Why? Because the experience sucks compared to IOS.

And the irony of the whole "open" thing from Android is that it has allowed the carriers and hardware manufacturers to conspire against the end user just like they did in the feature phone dark days before the iPhone came along. Say what you will about Apple's "arrogance" and the walled garden, but the fact is that Apple drew a line in the sand that no other hardware manufacturer had done before. They told the carriers, "This is the user experience we want to provide our customers, and you are NOT going to bastardize it with your side deals and self promoting apps." The last Android I bought (and it will be the last one I buy) was littered with Yahoo apps that I could not remove unless I was willing to completely wipe the OS and start from scratch. Yahoo is like a cancerous tumor to me, and I will not have it polluting anything I own. Android fanboys like to talk about the whole "Well you can root your phone." and "But the hardware on the Androids is just bitchin'." But I, like so many don't want to root my phone to get the nasties off of it. I just want it to work, without feeling like I have to wash my hands every time I put it down. And dual core processors, Gigabytes of memory, ports out the wazoo are meaningless when the user experience is more frustrating and less pleasant. Android's biggest advantage right now is the fact that they're the Chrysler of cell phones. Selling flashiness over quality experience, and trying to put one in everyone's pocket. It seems to be working, for the time being when it comes to pie charts and bar graphs. But keep in mind who's making all the money. $24 billion last quarter alone.

Some of your predictions might come true. Only time will tell. But you also must consider that lessons learned come into play here. And Apple has learned some lessons from their experiences in the 80s and 90s. There are also some long term strategic moves being made by them behind the scenes that will affect the outcome years from now. There are advantages to having the biggest stack of chips at the table, if you know how to play your hand.

The boys at Google are pretty ingenious engineers, but Apple has shown a much better track record in capturing the consumer's imagination in the last 10-11 years. Google continues to create some wonderful technology in their labs, and struggle to bring it to market in a graceful way. Apple creates great products, and they get people to line up to buy it.

 

[MH01]

Its amazing that one of the biggest companies in the whole world is run by one man.

They really will be in trouble if he leaves.

I assume your new to Apple. Just in case your not sure who we are talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_jobs even has a pic of him

Though you are trying to be sarcastic, its actually a fact.

Apple did not get to where they are now had it not been for Jobs in control.