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Who wants one platform? I am all for having multiple platforms. I would argue that no one platform is ever going to be best at EVERYTHING. Without getting too in depth we can look at security for a quick example of how platform diversity is actually better for ALL consumers.

RIM v iPhone

RIM is leaps and bounds ahead of iOS in regards to device and information security however I would argue that iOS is equally ahead of RIM when it comes to overall ease of use and device features.

Apple is catching up in that regard. My better half works for Hilton Hotels, and they sent out a memo several months ago that anyone with a corporate BB could switch to an iPhone if they so desired. Or have their personal iPhone bill subsidized if they wanted to go that route. So I don't think iOS is all that far behind RIM in security.
 
Apple is catching up in that regard. My better half works for Hilton Hotels, and they sent out a memo several months ago that anyone with a corporate BB could switch to an iPhone if they so desired. Or have their personal iPhone bill subsidized if they wanted to go that route. So I don't think iOS is all that far behind RIM in security.

you based that on one company? Maybe Hilton is trying to be cool and hip and isn't worried about their data and what MIGHT get hijacked. Who knows.

One use case doesn't make a study nor does it make it a rule. My .02
 
Why? Apple sells to multiple carriers in other countries?

Android phones are on all carriers. While it would be great news for people who want an iPhone but not AT&T, it does not adversely affect google.

The study was only on the US Market therefor the number of worldwide iPhone carriers does not matter thus making your point somewhat wrong.
 
you based that on one company? Maybe Hilton is trying to be cool and hip and isn't worried about their data and what MIGHT get hijacked. Who knows.

One use case doesn't make a study nor does it make it a rule. My .02

Or maybe they decided that iOS security is comparable to RIM's?

Wasn't claiming it was a study or a rule. But the largest hotelier in the world allowing corporate employees to use iOS for secure messaging does show that iOS isn't as far behind in the corporate sector as some would think.

The post I was responding to said that "RIM is leaps and bounds ahead of iOS in regards to device and information security"

I was simply adding some anecdotal evidence that that may not be entirely accurate. My two cents.

Hilton trying to be cool and hip? BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAH...no.
 
Ok that's cool so I had to get my android phone replaced, another Android phone activated good for Google. Now how many Android phones are sold everyday that's the real question

Since we are not seeing dire news reports of Android phones being recalled or replaced, we can expect significant portion of that number to be sales.
 
This is a war between iOS and the Android platforms, not a war between the iPhone specifically and Android. When you combine iPhones, iPads and iPods then Android is not in the lead.

Granted Android is catching up fast, but its not there quite yet. The headlines are misleading.

Next year android will be on TVs and set top boxes. Those should be counted too, right?
 
Why? Apple sells to multiple carriers in other countries?

Android phones are on all carriers. While it would be great news for people who want an iPhone but not AT&T, it does not adversely affect google.

Yeah funny how that is, and I've actually only seen 1 Android phone ever, and I live in London :rolleyes:

Maybe Android users are ashamed of pulling theirs out?
 
Why? Apple sells to multiple carriers in other countries?

Android phones are on all carriers. While it would be great news for people who want an iPhone but not AT&T, it does not adversely affect google.

If iPhone went to Verizon, everyone would upgrade to it and it would take away a gigantic chunk of Androids market share effectively sinking their ship.
 
If iPhone went to Verizon, everyone would upgrade to it and it would take away a gigantic chunk of Androids market share effectively sinking their ship.

Why would VZW want to deal with Jobs BS when they're doing just fine with their droid branded phones?

According the article linked just a few posts above, android is activating 200k devices a day and Schmidt specifically mentions Droid X for the surge.

iphone coming to VZW and sinking android (and all the investment by VZW in their droid brand) isn't happening.
 
Apple puts out 1 phone per year

Android put out like 39483958398439839583

hence the "crunched" numbers

not even a fanboy just the way I see it
 
Apple puts out 1 phone per year

Android put out like 39483958398439839583

hence the "crunched" numbers

not even a fanboy just the way I see it

So? Apple chose to put out 1 phone/year. Nothing is preventing Apple from releasing more phones.
 
Why would VZW want to deal with Jobs BS when they're doing just fine with their droid branded phones?

According the article linked just a few posts above, android is activating 200k devices a day and Schmidt specifically mentions Droid X for the surge.

iphone coming to VZW and sinking android (and all the investment by VZW in their droid brand) isn't happening.

Even after Cingular ate up the old At&t and became the largest carrier for awhile, Verizon gained on em and eventually passed them up to become the largest carrier. Their dominance is established by having convinced the public they have the largest coverage map in the USA. So in a place where no other phone get service, they might be the only ones to have it. This type of thing has built them a huge reputation and some people even have no choice in some areas but to go with Verizon because no other carrier works where they live.

The point is, iPhone is the most popular phone in America, but Verizon is the most popular carrier in America. Dont confuse that with thinking Android is becoming as, or more popular than, iPhone. They still have a long way to catch up to the Beast.
 
Next year android will be on TVs and set top boxes. Those should be counted too, right?

Depends how they're going to co-operate with eachother. The person to whom you're replying makes a good point because iPod and iPad owners are also purchasing the same things from the app store in many cases. They're helping to drive the success which keeps developers in pocket by opting for iTunes over Android Marketplace. No one is going to want to be downloading Apps for their TV or set-top box so it's really a different market and even if they did they extra development work wouldn't be worthwhile when you consider you'd have to redo your little programs to support 720p minimum.

iOS still holds the cards in terms of support and it's difficult to see that changing, especially with the Android market as fragmented as it is and therefore, as long as iPhone sales stay strong, this "battle" is a phony war and coexistance non-problematic.
 
Apple fanboy: but...but..its comparing a million handsets to just one!

Wahhhh Wahhhh....cry all you want fanboys

APPLE IS DEAD.

It's a temporary set back! However, according to Macdailynews, the NPD does not include business sales and it only captured a few days of iphone4 sales. Plus, the article said that ATT said they sold 40 % of the iphones to business. So, andriod may come close in selling more or just slightly ahead. I suspect, apple is not worried. I think they will have the iphone on all carriers worldwide starting next year. The iphone will return and android will be .. who!
 
Why would VZW want to deal with Jobs BS when they're doing just fine with their droid branded phones?

According the article linked just a few posts above, android is activating 200k devices a day and Schmidt specifically mentions Droid X for the surge.

iphone coming to VZW and sinking android (and all the investment by VZW in their droid brand) isn't happening.

It is pure business! Both Droid and the iphone would carry Verizon to a greater numbers in their pockets!! However, iphone will always outsell the droids. Only reason android is ahead, there is no iphone to choose from on other carriers. Plus, att has a bad rep.
 
Since we are not seeing dire news reports of Android phones being recalled or replaced, we can expect significant portion of that number to be sales.

But a portion of them ARE being recalled or replaced, that's why Google says they activated 200,000 Andriod devices a day. It's not like they SALE that many phones.
 
But a portion of them ARE being recalled or replaced, that's why Google says they activated 200,000 Andriod devices a day. It's not like they SALE that many phones.

Exactly and some of those Android sales are not to new customers they are to existing customers. For example look at the EVO 4G the majority of people who purchased those were already sprint customers and not New.

Also Android is going to be sold on Budget carriers and small carriers like Iowa wireless, Ntelos, Cricket and Metro PCS and even boost mobile has an iDen android phone. Apple would never sell on low cost carriers.
 
Next year android will be on TVs and set top boxes. Those should be counted too, right?

I'm not sure because some people feel for example that the iPad shouldn't be counted in Apple's portable computer sales. So to keep it fair then technically you couldn't count Set Top boxes and the android OS on TV's and lump into the overall Android market share for mobile.
 
But a portion of them ARE being recalled or replaced, that's why Google says they activated 200,000 Andriod devices a day. It's not like they SALE that many phones.

Google reports activations rather than sales because that's the only metric they have. The don't sell phones. But most Android phones are activated with Google. Sales are actually likely to be higher than activations.

Next year android will be on TVs and set top boxes. Those should be counted too, right?

It depends on why you are counting. If you are counting to determine the size of the development platform, then it would depend on whether or not these Android TVs ran the same apps as Android phones.
 
It depends on why you are counting. If you are counting to determine the size of the development platform, then it would depend on whether or not these Android TVs ran the same apps as Android phones.

Why is this even being discussed on this thread? The article in question clearly states that it is referring to "smartphones" which rules out iPads, iPods, laptops, set top boxes, etc. Just phones.
 
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