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Because it's not like they don't sell 15 devices with the Android OS AND are on multiple carriers!
When will people learn. . .
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Android Outpaces iPhone in Share of New U.S. Smartphone Customers for First Half of 2010
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Because it's not like they don't sell 15 devices with the Android OS AND are on multiple carriers!
When will people learn. . .
So you've never heard of a "quality design"?
Do you own an iPhone 4? I do. It is a poor quality design in terms of function. In terms of aesthetics it is a good design. But it has to be used in a case anyway, so you look at a case and a screen, and not the phone. The aesthetics are moot because of the poor quality design.
Do you honestly believe Steve Jobs has ever designed anything at Apple/NeXT/Apple? Do you know the history of the guy? Go read up on how he works, and how he dictates. He is actually quite an ignorant dude when it comes to technical things. He has a position of power, a massive ego, and apparently good taste. Seriously, I urge you to read on the guy.
Also, insulting people is a pretty sad defense, I'm sure you are better than that. Assuming I am ignorant because you disagree with me doesn't reflect on me, it reflects on you. As stated before, I would ask you research Jobs' history in the industry, going back to the 70's and how he actually operates, and how much he actually knows.
Cool!!!!!
Because it's not like they don't sell 15 devices with the Android OS AND are on multiple carriers!
When will people learn. . .
Considering Google's #1 priority is NOT to sell units at all, but to get the Android OS on as many mobile phones as physically possible, I would say this is extremely significant for Google.
Relax, my fellow Macrumors member! Firstly, get out of your arrogant defensive mode. We are talking about statistics. I don't think Apple ever surpassed RIM in the smartphone market. Your second homework today is to check the statistics. Reading the original post would be a good start. Here, HTC taking over Apple means moving up from the third place to the second.
No - comparing Android to the iPhone is perfectly logical. Just because Apple don't lease iOS to other manufacturers doesn't negate the point. Do people compare Apple OSX sales to simply those of Dell, or HP or Lenovo? No, they compare OSX sales to Microsoft. I'm sure Apple sell more Macs than some random Far East manufacturer, but no-one would seriously use those figures to show how well Macs were doing! To misquote someone - it's the OS, stupid
Motorola, HTC, Samsung etc etc are all shipping Android devices. Apple are shipping iOS devices. It's a perfectly acceptable measurement. You can also compare Samsung market share with HTC if you want and that would be perfectly acceptable, but the differentiator there is the subtleties of hardware and not the operating system. It just wouldn't be that interesting or significant as a news item.
Not logical at all. iPhone is a single phone. Android is an OS that many phones can run. It doesn't matter who leases what to who. Compare Android to iOS. Both are OSes. But comparing Android to iPhone is comparing 10+ phones to one iPhone. If you really want to nitpick, 10+ phones to 4 iPhones. There are probably more than 10 Android phones though.
Mobile is the next great frontier for malware. I'd be perfectly content to not have Apple sitting in the #1 spot with a target on their backs, something I've been worrying about since the original iPhone in 07. Let Android become the Windows of mobile (crappy & malware-ridden yet ubiquitous), while Apple provides a more painless user experience (good for me) while continuing to generate the lion's share of the industry's profit (good for my AAPL).
And with Microsoft being Google's most obvious victim in the mobile world, what's not to like?
There are four under Verizon's DROID brand alone.
And with Microsoft being Google's most obvious victim in the mobile world, what's not to like?
There are four under Verizon's DROID brand alone.
When was iPhone number 1?
I think it's the best phone but RIM had higher market share among Smartphones
Because it's not like they don't sell 15 devices with the Android OS AND are on multiple carriers!
They sell the iPhone also on multiple carriers worldwide.
And the Apple ad is:
"Hi, I'm A Mac - Hi, I'm a PC."
And not: "Hi, I'm a Dell/Samsung/Acer/whatever".
Apple is perfectly happy with a 3% worldwide Mac marketshare. They will also be happy with a 3% worldwide iPhone smartphone marketshare. I guess.
I'm just tired of the constant comparisons (Sells/Marketshare) with 1 phone to an entire OS it's ludicrous. And to top it off the iPhone is only on 1 carrier in the US, yet it's still in the top.
They're sorta big in Enterprise apparently. Surprised RIM hasn't supplanted them there...
I love my DroidX and I also love my iMac i7.
For the people saying it's many android phones vs one iPhone, that's kinda the point yo? Android is more open and more companies put it on their phones, Apple's iOS is only Apple and they only make one. That's kinda the whole point.
For the people saying it's many android phones vs one iPhone, that's kinda the point yo? Android is more open and more companies put it on their phones, Apple's iOS is only Apple and they only make one. That's kinda the whole point.
So you've never heard of a "quality design"?
Do you own an iPhone 4? I do. It is a poor quality design in terms of function. In terms of aesthetics it is a good design. But it has to be used in a case anyway, so you look at a case and a screen, and not the phone. The aesthetics are moot because of the poor quality design.
Do you honestly believe Steve Jobs has ever designed anything at Apple/NeXT/Apple? Do you know the history of the guy? Go read up on how he works, and how he dictates. He is actually quite an ignorant dude when it comes to technical things. He has a position of power, a massive ego, and apparently good taste. Seriously, I urge you to read on the guy.
Also, insulting people is a pretty sad defense, I'm sure you are better than that. Assuming I am ignorant because you disagree with me doesn't reflect on me, it reflects on you. As stated before, I would ask you research Jobs' history in the industry, going back to the 70's and how he actually operates, and how much he actually knows.
Yes. So quality design now means the same as either quality or design by itself? Quality still does NOT refer to function. Quality != aesthetic. You can have a product that looks really good but is made of poor quality materials. You could say poor design. Or poor performance design. But the design itself is not poor in quality. Stainless steel chassis, Gorilla Glass. Definitely not poor quality materials. Learn some English. I hate being a language Nazi but you are really butchering the English language.
Jobs designed stuff before but not anymore. Please read more carefully. He approves designs or asks for a certain look or aesthetic. But he doesn't actually design a product himself. I really urge you to learn how to read. That comes first, before telling me to read someone's biography.
You are ignorant because you don't choose your words carefully and accurately. I'm not insulting anyone. This is the 21st century. People change, whether it's slightly or dramatically. I know for a fact that Jobs made an early iMac's logic board to look more aesthetically pleasing but performed poorly. He eventually reverted back to the old design. Literacy rates also improved but you weren't part of that change it seems.
Most preschoolers have no clue what ">" or "<" stand for. You fail as a preschool teacher. However I still agree with your point.
What a retarded post. Gaming on the PC is dying because of piracy. Games that cant be pirated (MMOs) are doing extremely well.
Next year there will be TVs that run android, should those be included in the platform numbers as well?
No - comparing Android to the iPhone is perfectly logical. Just because Apple don't lease iOS to other manufacturers doesn't negate the point. Do people compare Apple OSX sales to simply those of Dell, or HP or Lenovo? No, they compare OSX sales to Microsoft. I'm sure Apple sell more Macs than some random Far East manufacturer, but no-one would seriously use those figures to show how well Macs were doing! To misquote someone - it's the OS, stupid
Motorola, HTC, Samsung etc etc are all shipping Android devices. Apple are shipping iOS devices. It's a perfectly acceptable measurement. You can also compare Samsung market share with HTC if you want and that would be perfectly acceptable, but the differentiator there is the subtleties of hardware and not the operating system. It just wouldn't be that interesting or significant as a news item.
But if you are going to compare the OS market share, shouldn't you include the iPod touch and iPad in the iOS numbers? The main reason to compare OS market share is as a development platform where Android is trailing far, far behind iOS.
True.
However, if Android's highest percent is from the US, when the iPhone get's unlocked it'll have a bigger impact on it's sells.
When I worked at Tmobile do you know how many people came in to ask about their iPhones?
Apple includes iPhones, iPod Touches and iPads in their mobile share, so I don't know how accurate any of that data ever is.
I imagine so, since ATMs and cash registers/POS systems count towards Windows Mobile market share.
These charts prove that the iPhone has hit a ceiling of growth in the US thanks to the AT&T exclusivity deal. There are literally tens of millions on other networks who really like to buy a smartphone, and the fact that the best option isn't availably to them (officially) is driving them into the arms of competitors.
So yeah, it's about time.
So yeah, it's about time.
This argument is stupid.
They are both great platforms, they just offer different options.
Signed Former iPhone User who was Sick of AT&T.
They are both great platforms, they just offer different options.
Signed Former iPhone User who was Sick of AT&T.
So in the 6 months leading up to the expected and announced refresh of the iPhone, aptly revealed to be the iPhone 4, and went on to sell Millions in weeks, iPhone sales slowed down and were outpaced by the introduction of many new Android phones. Makes sense.
Either way, the fact that it took Android multiple devices on every major carrier in the US to catch up to one device on one carrier says a lot. The iPhone has kind of hit a stand still, the only thing Apple can really do at this point is open up to more carriers. This "Outpacing" would grind to a hault with the introduction of a Verizon phone. I know 4-5 people with Droids that would all jump to an iPhone if available.
But either way, this is good for everybody, because we know Apple will want to stay on top, and they will innovate and do more to make sure they do.
Either way, the fact that it took Android multiple devices on every major carrier in the US to catch up to one device on one carrier says a lot. The iPhone has kind of hit a stand still, the only thing Apple can really do at this point is open up to more carriers. This "Outpacing" would grind to a hault with the introduction of a Verizon phone. I know 4-5 people with Droids that would all jump to an iPhone if available.
But either way, this is good for everybody, because we know Apple will want to stay on top, and they will innovate and do more to make sure they do.
I would love to hear you vs. Jobs in a face-to-face techie debate.
What topic? The guy doesn't really know what he's talking about. Watch this video, look how flummoxed he gets when there is a mistake. Look at what he says regarding some very basic technical ideas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKKQNZG3rE
Go read stories about his personal assistants at NeXT when he didn't know what to do (clueless user for his own platform!). The guy is not an engineer. He's a good speaker. Seriously, it's weird how much reverence there is for the guy, while at the same time not too much knowledge what he's really like.