Apple never was.
The company that makes the best donuts will have the most sales, and the store(s) selling the poorer donuts will only sell to those customers who would buy anything they sold no matter how flawed the quality.
lawyers. and every single one I know has a blackberry, and iphone, or both.
No, I take that back. I know one with an old Palm Treo and one with a Droid. But zero winmo phones.
Incidentally, I got to play with Droid X this past weekend -- the thing should have no problems with the "death grip" signal loss, because the effing thing is too big to death grip unless you use both hands.![]()
Some people can't fathom why anyone would want a physical keyboard, because touchscreen is just so kewl man.
I believe it's more geared towards business people, and professionals. Who do you work with?
depends on what you mean by "lose." Not for the customers and not for the shareholders. Maybe in marketshare, but companies don't really care about marketshare - they care about profits, which may or may not correlate strongly with marketshare.
I figured this would eventually happen. You can't be number one forever.
I figured this would eventually happen. You can't be number one forever.
I enjoy these debates -- it's an unlikely marriage of open source nerds & teenagers who need a phone that gets free texting / calls to their "in network" buddies.
It'll be fun when everyone can own an iPhone. For all the success of the Android, there's absolutely no buzz attached to the brand with normal people -- especially when compared to the iPhone.
Talking marketshare. Yeah Apple can stay profitable, but you know...their strategies just never work "long term"...the closed system stuff just never does. We will see, and I am loaded with Apple stuff, but I know their day of reckoning is coming. I personally think their stock is probably at its peak in general.
But they will be around a long long time obviously. Plenty of money, and profits at an all time high.
Some people can't fathom why anyone would want a physical keyboard, because physical keyboards are limited to only one character set. (You can't switch to Greek for math, or Japanese if you want to chat in another language.) Some people also can't fathom why anyone would want to double the size of their phone just to add something that reduces functionality. From my perspective, every inch of a phone that is not screen is wasted space.
Please change your name to "full of fail." Lets break it down in elementry school terms.
Company A sells 3 different kinds of doughnuts in 3 different stores.
Company B sells 1 kind of doughnut in 1 store.
Who do you think will have the larger market share?
Number one? In your dreams mate.
Then again, I'm sure Apple are more than happy to have huge profit margins on the devices they sell. They've never been driven by the need to be number one. They know they can cream the largest profits out of gadgets that are seen as "high value". They wouldn't want to commoditise that by mixing with the hoi polloi. It's worked well for them over many years. Android can be the Windows of the mobile OS, and Apple can keep their perceived higher value. Everyone wins - even those who seem happy to pay more for less.
WinMo has 13%? How is that possible? I've never seen a single person with a WinMo phone. Do they even sell WinMo phones any more?
Android is quantity. iPhone is quality. I still haven't seen one Android phone that has similar quality and design to iPhone 4. One model of iPhone sold more than 3 million units. I haven't seen many Android devices break the 1 million barrier. Not the Nexus One, Evo 4G, Droid X, Droid Incredible. I think the original Droid was the first Android device to break the 1 million barrier. Meanwhile, every iPhone has done that.
The real keyboard is what keeps people on board for a BB.
Yes, lets go ahead and compare over a dozen Android handsets to one iPhone handset. Sure that makes perfect sense.
right, it could be that... OR it could be that you can get android on all 4 major carriers and iphone only on AT&T.
lawyers. and every single one I know has a blackberry, and iphone, or both.
No, I take that back. I know one with an old Palm Treo and one with a Droid. But zero winmo phones.
You're right. There are lots of parallels to the market positions of OS-X and Windows. Despite Apple predating Microsoft, and OS-X getting all the buzz, it only has a ca. 5% US market share of personal computers and a ca. 10% worldwide market share. Windows gets almost no buzz, and has a 90% US and 85% WW market share. And much more profit.
I suspect a similar thing is happening with mobile OS. Apple was there first, but is making some of the same mistakes it made with the Mac (and some new ones) to open the door for a more customer-centric competitor. Canalsys reported that in Q2 Android sales in the US rose 850%. I would say that Apple should be hearing footsteps, but based on the Nielson numbers, they have heard the footsteps and are now looking at the rear end of the competition as it runs away from them.
If Apple goes to Verizon now, it will be with their tail between their legs. That negotiation will be a bloodbath.