Thats what I try too. I have a Windows laptop, an Apple phone, and use Google services and browser
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Android People just DON'T GET IT, I love my iPhone but we are STUCK
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Thats what I try too. I have a Windows laptop, an Apple phone, and use Google services and browser
It is amazing how easy it is for someone to say "they're switching to Android" or even if they say "switch from your iPhone to Android"...but lets see the true cost of doing this for someone like me:
I just purchased a new thermostat by the Radio Thermostat Corporation of America from Home Depot for $99. The main reason I got this was the ability to control my thermostat from my iPhone.
A couple months ago, I came across a device called the Kiwi for my car, which is an OBD-II code reader for the iPhone. I bought this at Fry's Electronics for $159 at the time + the cost of the accompanying iOS app for $49
Another reason is that the iPhone actually SYNCS WITH THE MAC but I have yet to see an Android phone sync with anything at all other than Google's own web services. So I guess I can count the Macs as another "accessory" to support my usage of an iPhone...Thousands of $
I also got an iSimple installed into my car, which obviously only will work with the iPod or iPhone. Most cars today are sold with iPod connectors. Cars that have only a USB in, Android will not integrate with the car, and one will still have to use the phone itself to change songs, rather than simple steering wheel controls or large buttons on the dash. So lets also add the car as an accessory to support the usage of an iPhone$20,000-$?? Depending on how much you spend on cars
Also don't forget the various amounts of Apps I've spent money on (and unlike the first few items I've posted, this applies to every iOS user here
I also plan on getting a Z-Wave system installed into my house, which will offer even deeper iPhone integration of my house than just the thermostat, but thats down the road when I get more extra cash.
So as a person who made this much investment into the platform, would it make sense to leave right now? Of course it isn't, which is why I am buying the iPhone 4S, and I do not regret my decision to get the 4S or any other Apple phones in the future, though some Android phones have tempted me in the past, but I got over it within a few days (which would probably mean that I would've had buyer's remorse within a few days of purchasing an Android)
Now off to the real reason for this post, is a question...is anyone else in the same boat?
I made a similar thread on this here. It has to do with Apple tying everything to one account. It's not the same, but a similar issue.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1224840/
It is amazing how easy it is for someone to say "they're switching to Android" or even if they say "switch from your iPhone to Android"...but lets see the true cost of doing this for someone like me:
I just purchased a new thermostat by the Radio Thermostat Corporation of America from Home Depot for $99. The main reason I got this was the ability to control my thermostat from my iPhone.
A couple months ago, I came across a device called the Kiwi for my car, which is an OBD-II code reader for the iPhone. I bought this at Fry's Electronics for $159 at the time + the cost of the accompanying iOS app for $49
Another reason is that the iPhone actually SYNCS WITH THE MAC but I have yet to see an Android phone sync with anything at all other than Google's own web services. So I guess I can count the Macs as another "accessory" to support my usage of an iPhone...Thousands of $
I also got an iSimple installed into my car, which obviously only will work with the iPod or iPhone. Most cars today are sold with iPod connectors. Cars that have only a USB in, Android will not integrate with the car, and one will still have to use the phone itself to change songs, rather than simple steering wheel controls or large buttons on the dash. So lets also add the car as an accessory to support the usage of an iPhone
Also don't forget the various amounts of Apps I've spent money on (and unlike the first few items I've posted, this applies to every iOS user here
I also plan on getting a Z-Wave system installed into my house, which will offer even deeper iPhone integration of my house than just the thermostat, but thats down the road when I get more extra cash.
So as a person who made this much investment into the platform, would it make sense to leave right now? Of course it isn't, which is why I am buying the iPhone 4S, and I do not regret my decision to get the 4S or any other Apple phones in the future, though some Android phones have tempted me in the past, but I got over it within a few days (which would probably mean that I would've had buyer's remorse within a few days of purchasing an Android)
Now off to the real reason for this post, is a question...is anyone else in the same boat?
We get it, your rich.. let me crawl back into my cardboard.....
heh You just described my scenario to a tee, although I'll likely get a MBP in the spring. I'm awfully bored with Windows and I know I could do a lot more with photos and videos in terms of editing with a Mac. I'd really like to make the switch from Windows to Mac for personal computing. I'll probably give my Samsung RC512 Windows 7 64bit laptop to my wife as a safety net in case I need to use it for anything that I may not be able to do on a Mac. I've really been getting the itch to get a MBP, but they are certainly not cheap. The one I spec'd out came out to be a tad over $3100. I don't question the quality and value, but it's just not in the budget at the moment.
While I have absolutely no desire to ever buy an Android based system, I'm a big fan and use a lot of the Google services (email, calendar, Google+, docs, etc). They've really stepped up their game in terms of single sign-on to a lot of different web-based services.
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These are the pitfalls denounced by the Free Software Foundation and Richard M. Stallman. Vendor lock-in through proprietary systems that are closed to interoperability with no option for the user to even get their hands on a standard draft or source code to modify/port to another system.
That's why I love open source software. If something gets abandonned, I can pick it up, make it work/modify it/continue it myself or lacking the necessary talent, can get someone that is able to to do it.
That's why I love open source software. If something gets abandonned, I can pick it up, make it work/modify it/continue it myself or lacking the necessary talent, can get someone that is able to to do it.
Why stick to one platform? I use iPhone, Android & Blackberry concurrently
I also move between iOS, Android and Blackberry all day long.
Apps are not a problem for me. iOS and Android have pretty much the same ones I constantly use every day, so they're interchangeable in that respect. (The Blackberrys are for business and development, so they're not primary personal devices.)
As for app costs, ha! The investment in today's apps is absolutely NOTHING compared to what I and others spent on say, Windows Mobile apps from 2000 - 2007 or so. Holy smokes, even little utilities were often $20-30 !
My choice to use apple has also been pricey. New stereo head in the car for my iPod, a ton of money spent on apps (that I use all the time), etc.
But I'm ok with it- I prefer iOS to Android and right now am not compelled to leave at all.
Also OSX (yes, even lion) smokes windows in every way except games (and even that is catching up). I was a windows user for 10 years before I switched. Two days with a mac mini and I never looked back (except for when I'm at work).
I'm "stuck" and loving it.
But I'm ok with it- I prefer iOS to Android and right now am not compelled to leave at all.
Also OSX (yes, even lion) smokes windows in every way except games (and even that is catching up). I was a windows user for 10 years before I switched. Two days with a mac mini and I never looked back (except for when I'm at work).
I'm "stuck" and loving it.
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As for app costs, ha! The investment in today's apps is absolutely NOTHING compared to what I and others spent on say, Windows Mobile apps from 2000 - 2007 or so. Holy smokes, even little utilities were often $20-30 !
So true! All my apps are paid-for, as they are quite affordable and we might as well support the Devs. The only expensive apps I use are the turn-by-turn Navigation apps like Navigon and TomTom. Even those are affordable, considering their update life-cycles. I recently scored QuickOffice Pro for Android for 1/2 price via a coupon, so can't really complain. Hence, running multiple platforms is actually quite affordable. Cheers.
you lost me here. It sounds like you're trying your hardest to put the biggest number possible on your investment into iOS. Wether for bragging rights or to somehow justify not going over to android, or some other reason, I don't know. But right there is where it got really absurd
My point was to say that you can't find the same Android integration as you would iOS integration. The
/ was to emphasize the jokes when I started pricing those out.
This is similar to when people who bought iPods. Back in the 2005-2006, they weren't really the best mp3 players. Even the nano are still a rip-off. But people simply couldn't get away from iTunes and the investments they put in it. Plus, their is a huge selection of accessories for them. The iDevices is like a walking cash register for Apple's ecosystem no different than what Amazon will do with their Kindle Fire toward their store. But millions don't mind living in this walled garden either. If Android is like New York City where it is vast and sprawling with both good and bad areas, Apple is like visiting Disney World which is safer while coming from a home with a gated community.
So you seriously spent $100 on a thermostat just so you can control your stat with your phone? Man people are getting lazier by the year....lol.
No idea what that is.
I also got an iSimple installed into my car, which obviously only will work with the iPod or iPhone. Most cars today are sold with iPod connectors. Cars that have only a USB in, Android will not integrate with the car, and one will still have to use the phone itself to change songs, rather than simple steering wheel controls or large buttons on the dash. So lets also add the car as an accessory to support the usage of an iPhone
Android works in todays cars just fine. I dont know what isimple is but you dont need it to make your Android work in your car. And you dont even need the USB connector though it is nice to have it chrging.
If you have bluetooth in your car, you can play your music through your cars system without it being connected but it is , like i said...nice to have it charging while it is doing that.
I know this is true because i work for Toyota (at least thats what it does in those) and the 2012 models are coming with a new electronic systems called entune which is basically a smartphone in your car while it being synced with your phone but the older ones will do what i said above.
Also don't forget the various amounts of Apps I've spent money on (and unlike the first few items I've posted, this applies to every iOS user here
Yes you get screwed by Apple here. You dont get screwed by Android this way. Everything is tied to your gmail account.
Why?
So as a person who made this much investment into the platform, would it make sense to leave right now? Of course it isn't, which is why I am buying the iPhone 4S, and I do not regret my decision to get the 4S or any other Apple phones in the future, though some Android phones have tempted me in the past, but I got over it within a few days (which would probably mean that I would've had buyer's remorse within a few days of purchasing an Android)
I agree with you actually but why spend all that money of lame stuff like being able to change your thermostat from your phone? Unless you live in a castle and it is far away, i think that is a waste of money. Sorry, not tying to judge, i just dont get it.
Nothing wrong with sticking to Apple IMO but your throwing a lot of eggs in your basket depending on it and if you dont mind them falling behind the other guys, then i guess theres no reason to to wonder if you should switch.
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And then you get screwed by google.... I know folks act like google is this big magnanimous company, but folks, it's not...
It just means you dont have to worry about paying for it and when you get another phone, you can get them on it. All your music, movies, books, contacts,etc... will show up as soon as you sync it to your gmail account on your new phone.
Google also has Google music too which will also sync up with your phone. You dont even need to put music on your phone in your memory. Just put it in Google music but i also have it on my microcard that goes with me as well.
You work for Toyota and don't know what an OBD-II port is? or what an OBD scanner does?
I don't want to sound like an ******* about the home automation, but, because I can. I enjoy using the iPhone to it's fullest potential, and enjoy having technology to do so. If my iPhone can do it, why shouldn't I let it? That is the same thing as saying why should my TV have a remote control? The technology is here, and is pretty affordable, so put it to good use.
As for apps, it is because the apps on iOS are just built with much more quality than the free apps of Android. As someone said earlier, Google built that type of market, so now thats the quality of apps you'll get. I don't think you even have the option of ad-free Angry Birds on Android.
Also, about the car thing, as I said, with an Android phone, you are most likely stuck to using the phone itself to control the music, rather than the car controls, which were designed to be used...WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING. (The exception is as you've mentioned, Toyota Entune, which I am sure will just use the ability to control the phone using bluetooth).
Do I hate Android? No I do not. But when people say I should *SWITCH* to Android, I felt I needed to post something like this to tell those people that there are REALISTIC reasons (non fanboy) why I can't. Take a look at some threads here on MR, where some Phandroids would come in dissing our choices in phone. One person even said we should throw the iPhone away and buy an Android..PSHAW!
Im not a mechanic. I did look it up and i knew they had on board diagnostics, just never have to use the abreviation or do anything with it at all.
Im not critisizing, just wondering why you would want to spend all that money and be essentually tied to a device, but thats me.
There is an App to make all Apps ad free. That is actually the name of the app...lol. I think you have to be rooted though, which i am.
Nope, not true. It plays through your car and it shows up on your radio and you can control it there like any other radio station and on the steering wheel controls.
The entune uses bluetooth of course to connect your phone but it also connects it with the internet so you can use Pandora, IHeartradio, Open table which is a restaurant app and you can make reservations from it, Movietickets which is a ovie app and you can buy tickets from it, and it does a lot more stuff.
I hear ya but i think you have a lot more invested than most. I wouldnt do that only because todays best could be next years old stuff though Apple will be around , but somethihg is always better. Nobody stays on top all the time.
I know what the google products can do. And I choose not to use them. I have my reasons. I don't believe google is the benign force they pretend to be.
My point was to say that you can't find the same Android integration as you would iOS integration. The
i guess i missed that...i sort of ignore smileys when i see them haha
Same thing with Cameras and other equipment
As any photographer would say they are heavily invested in a system. Nikon comes out with an expensive camera or lens, they wont jump ship as they've already spent a small/large fortune in one system.
Maybe they can slowly migrate, but it will come at a cost/loss.
I bought a lot of apps, which i use an ipad, on my iphone and my second iphone... and a number of accessories.
Same thing with applications i purchased for my mac.
Jumping ship i believe only happens when someone has not 'invested' in the system they are using. Sure you can jump ship to android, windows but if you have spent money for those systems not just to buy the hardware then it will be expensive.
So if the new iphone doesn't cut it, then either you choose to wait or buy it and forget about it.
Cant expect someone with design tools purchased for the mac and having spent thousands to change to windows and vice versa.
Anyway its good to have options.
As any photographer would say they are heavily invested in a system. Nikon comes out with an expensive camera or lens, they wont jump ship as they've already spent a small/large fortune in one system.
Maybe they can slowly migrate, but it will come at a cost/loss.
I bought a lot of apps, which i use an ipad, on my iphone and my second iphone... and a number of accessories.
Same thing with applications i purchased for my mac.
Jumping ship i believe only happens when someone has not 'invested' in the system they are using. Sure you can jump ship to android, windows but if you have spent money for those systems not just to buy the hardware then it will be expensive.
So if the new iphone doesn't cut it, then either you choose to wait or buy it and forget about it.
Cant expect someone with design tools purchased for the mac and having spent thousands to change to windows and vice versa.
Anyway its good to have options
.You could make that argument in 2009 but not now.Most new cars comes with some type of blue tooth , usb,3.5 options. Just about all of the new fords have Microsoft sync as an option,even the cheaper vehicles. I have no issues using my old OG droid with my 2011 mustang GT hands free while driving or using the controls on my steering wheel to skip songs. All i have to do is press the phone icon on my steering wheel and then tell it (speak) what i want it to do.Its pretty badass technology.
Ford
http://www.ford.com/technology/sync/
Hyundai
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/BlueTooth/
Honda
http://automobiles.honda.com/handsfreelink/find-a-phone.aspx
Gm
http://www.onstar.com/web/bluetooth/
Toyota
http://www.toyota.com/html/bluetooth/
Agree 100%, also have to look at the larger mac picture of having so much that just works!
Erm you can do it for the apps under iOS4 and with iCloud and iOS5 you can sync them all back via icloud to the new phone. Infact icloud makes it easy to bypass itunes.
So thats one less "exclusivity" for android.
WP7 will similarly use the skydrive for syncs in the future.
Also with the iphone i had half of my library stream to me using audiogalaxy through my home pc. So i dont see where the iPhone lacks in it.
Also it is a phone. Not a mortgage. "Locked in" is a stupid term to use. I can sell off an iPhone and buy an android and vice versa. Have done so several times. People just love to add drama to this stuff.
How is it a stupid term if one such as myself have a lot heavily invested in one platform? For me it would be switch to Android and have half my stuff not work or featureless. If you only use your phone as a phone, then yes it is easy for one to switch back and forth. If you read my first post, I am locked into ios. I wonder of people who switch between phones like you do own any accessories or bought many apps.
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Your mistake was buying stuff that only plays nice with Apple stuff. You just risk being screwed over by Apple in the future. It would not be the first time nor the last time Apple does something like that. For example go look back at when they killed off firewire support. Almost all the iPod accessories out there stop charging and their usefulness dropped like a rock. Hell even Apple's own HiFi did not work any more
As for your list the thermostats or at least the good ones tie into your your home Wifi system and they provide apps for all the major OS's. I want to say the one you are using works with both Android and iOS and hell they even have a blackberry App.
Cars are starting to have Android work with them so that is changing quickly.
And that is the reason i would like more cross-platform options. Forexample on iPhone i use gmail, google search, and other google apps if available. But seems like every major vendor wants a lock in. Google has its own services, apple has its own, MS now is creating their eco system. There is very less cross-platform support and IMO that sucks.