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Have you ever considered that a lot of people here are not just “apple fans” but fans of technology in general with plenty of devices from multiple brands? Are you trying to gatekeep the forums so only people with positive attitude towards apple and negative towards android can post? I guess the obvious solution is that people should stay on their echo chambers and never read different opinions.


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Nobody's gatekeeping... It's just another opinion-- let them have it.
 
No, but wading through a sea of argumentative posts from Samsung evangelists and Android fans on many threads does get a little tiring sometimes.

No, I don’t think Apple is perfect, yes I prefer them to Google.
Yes, I’ve tried Android, no I don’t like it.

I’m not going to switch because some people come to a Mac forum and complain about how Apple is really bad, their competition are really the better choices, with ever increasing vitriol.
No one is saying that you should switch, and so far I haven’t seen anyone trying to convince you.

But complaining about android arguments on a news post about android is….

And IOS being insecure is a fact because no completely secure system exists, and it’s quite sad that we don’t even know how insecure iOS is, only apple knows, the fact that they release security updates doesn’t say anything about how many zero day exploits are on the wild, may be more than android….we don’t know.
 
The biggest issue was Google’s laissez faire attitude about the whole thing. Planatir is a contractor for the US intelligence community.

From the original article:

The security company said it contacted Google about its findings more than 90 days ago and that the tech giant has not indicated whether it would remove or fix the application.

“Mobile security is a very real concern for us, given where we’re operating and who we’re serving,” Palantir Chief Information Security Officer Dane Stuckey said. “This was very deleterious of trust, to have third-party, unvetted insecure software on it. We have no idea how it got there, so we made the decision to effectively ban Androids internally.”
 
No one is saying that you should switch, and so far I haven’t seen anyone trying to convince you.

But complaining about android arguments on a news post about android is….

And IOS being insecure is a fact because no completely secure system exists, and it’s quite sad that we don’t even know how insecure iOS is, only apple knows, the fact that they release security updates doesn’t say anything about how many zero day exploits are on the wild, may be more than android….we don’t know.
I don’t make my point clear, I was talking about these forums in general, not this thread specifically.

No, of course iOS isn’t completely secure. The only completely secure device would be in the bottom of a concrete bunker, on the moon, with no power. It’s all relative.
 
You piqued my curiosity with that comment, so I had to go look up some info. Apparently, both mobile OSes do indeed have a system-level firewall that protects the device from unexpected external probes -- they just don't necessarily make their respective firewalls available to the end user for any kind of reconfiguration purposes, other than On/Off.
It's possible to install a usable firewall on both if you root/jailbreak. You can install a firewall from the Cydia app store.👍 The issue is Apple keeps breaking the jailbreak with each minor update, so it's pointless bothering with jailbreak.
Android doesn't break root except for major updates. With custom ROM, developers rarely purposely break root, because they want root access too.:cool:
 
Well I guess I shouldn't have pre-ordered the Google Pixel 9 Pro Extra-Large and Extra-Fabulous Rose Quartz model. 😩

...though to be fair, if cybercriminals did break in, all they'd find are my vast collection of cat memes. 🤪
It seems like a great phone, better OS features than on yet to be released iOS 18, but you need a separate case for that camera island on the back. :)
 
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Ever notice how the Android fanboys reveal themselves when an article like this appears? They have a myriad of Android tech blogs to choose from but they pop up here all the time. Why is that?
Ever notice how the iPhone fanboys reveal themselves when an article like this appears? They have a myriad of iPhone tech blogs to choose from, but they pop here all the time. Why is that?

There's no shortage of people who use both Macs and Androids.
 
Every single one of those vulnerabilities has been fixed. Now look at Android.
Some of them have been made public because they were fixed, the thing is that we don’t know how many open exploits exist on IOS (and some of them may be unpatchable bootroom exploits) because the source code is closed and completely dark, there may be thousands of xploits (or zero) we don’t know.

As I said security through obscurity is an absurd, is taking the “just trust me bruh, my system is safe” as a genuine security policy that no one can confirm.
 
So the option to connect to an http website is a security threat now? While I appreciate the extra security of https, the encryption seems like a waste of resources for most cases. I have a website about skyscrapers and I am still hesitant to switch to https, because all data on that website is open to public anyway and technically encryption slows down the website a tiny bit.

There is one downside of certificates that annoys me though: I can no longer use my HOSTS file to give certain websites custom domains, which was very convenient.
 
Likely this was a hackable route for many many many many years.

Just goes to show — just because Google & Apple say their phones are secure — doesn’t mean they are. It just means that they aren’t aware of an existing vulnerability
Here, let me edit this for you:

"It just means that existing vulnerabilities (often known to them and their allies) have not been publicly disclosed yet."

Also, people claiming that something is safer because it is closed source don't really know what they are talking about.
 
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This is the number one reason why I have never used Android. Sure there have been vulnerabilities in iOS but Apple is quick to patch.
There are several vulnerabilities in iOS and macOS waiting to be solved. Some are known for years. Wasn’t there a problem with the M-series of chips with security? Both platforms have vulnerabilities and in my experience Apple isn’t known to solve things quickly. Communication about these vulnerabilities Apple only does when there isn’t a way to keep it quiet. Also Apple doesn’t pay users who tell Apple there is a vulnerability or give any form of feedback to people who point those vulnerabilities out.

There will always be vulnerabilities on both platforms
 
Perhaps not surprising on an Apple fan site, but this article doesn’t mention that you need physical access to the device and the passcode to unlock it in order to exploit.

I use both iPhone and Pixel, because each is stronger than the other in certain areas. I will happily continue using my Pixel because it’s always with me.
Exactly, but that would require people to do research.
 
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