Android Smartphones Expected to Follow iPhone With Ultra Wideband Technology Starting Later This Year

[Unregistered 4U]

The term "don't keep all your eggs in 1 basket" has been around forever...and for a reason.

So, your iPod should be one device, your phone should be a second device and your internet communicator should be a third device.

The advice (17th century, so a fair bit short of forever) was really about having only one plan or idea and depending entirely on it. If you drop a basket you break all your eggs, but it’s a risk assessment. It’s not saying that you should have a bunch of baskets with one egg in each.

 

[edgonzalez32]

Right. Because the way we've been unlocking car doors the past 90 years is difficult. </sarcasm>

I, for one, have absolutely no need for this garbage. Others may. It's just more mishmosh and junk to manage as I constantly need to upgrade iOS and then the app...or I can't update the app without updating iOS (I've had this problem with bank apps and I stopped using them). Then the battery (on the other device) dies or needs charging. Blah blah blah.

What's next? Flush the toilet from my iPhone using the free iFlush app with ads? It's easy! Just swipe open your phone with your dirty finger, tap the iFlush app with your other dirty finger, watch the 15 second ad about 1/2 price colonoscopy screenings in your area, then choose which toilet you want to flush, then hold down the "drop" icon for 4 seconds to flush urine or hold down the "log" icon for 9 seconds to flush fecal matter. You can also spend $5.99 to rid the ads and be able to shake your iPhone 4 times for urine or 9 times for fecal.

Then don’t use it? Why do you feel the need the need to criticize those that was to use an optional feature?

 

[pratikindia]

That seems needlessly cynical. The way we've been unlocking car doors isn't difficult but requires a physical key that can get lost, stolen, forgotten, etc. Digitalizing more and more of our daily objects like keys, cards, IDs into the devices we use everyday, especially the phone, reduces clutter, increases convenience and safety. Do you also hate Apple Pay?




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That aside, shouldn't Apple have built UWB into AirPods Pro case at least? AirPods tracking isn't worth a damn and yet they are working on small tracking tags lol.

You also can lose your phone and everything will be locked.

 

[dannys1]

I'm more interested in this if it solves the smarthome problem of room occupancy somehow. iBeacons seemed to be a good idea but Apple never enabled the ability on the Apple Watch so they just don't work.

 

[DelayedGratificationGene]

Right. Because the way we've been unlocking car doors the past 90 years is difficult. </sarcasm>

I, for one, have absolutely no need for this garbage. Others may. It's just more mishmosh and junk to manage as I constantly need to upgrade iOS and then the app...or I can't update the app without updating iOS (I've had this problem with bank apps and I stopped using them). Then the battery (on the other device) dies or needs charging. Blah blah blah.

What's next? Flush the toilet from my iPhone using the free iFlush app with ads? It's easy! Just swipe open your phone with your dirty finger, tap the iFlush app with your other dirty finger, watch the 15 second ad about 1/2 price colonoscopy screenings in your area, then choose which toilet you want to flush, then hold down the "drop" icon for 4 seconds to flush urine or hold down the "log" icon for 9 seconds to flush fecal matter. You can also spend $5.99 to rid the ads and be able to shake your iPhone 4 times for urine or 9 times for fecal.

ok u crossed the line..fecal twice in one paragraph is disturbing

 

[Gorms]

What's next? Flush the toilet from my iPhone using the free iFlush app with ads? It's easy! Just swipe open your phone with your dirty finger, tap the iFlush app with your other dirty finger, watch the 15 second ad about 1/2 price colonoscopy screenings in your area, then choose which toilet you want to flush, then hold down the "drop" icon for 4 seconds to flush urine or hold down the "log" icon for 9 seconds to flush fecal matter. You can also spend $5.99 to rid the ads and be able to shake your iPhone 4 times for urine or 9 times for fecal.

I mean the entire point of UWB is that it would automatically flush the toilet as you walked away from it and turn on the taps to remind you to wash that dirty finger of yours, but yeah, go off man.

Seriously though, UWB is EXCITING, but it's 5 years from mainstream application. We won't see half the utility of it for a few generations but for me, the potential of UWB + ultra low latency/high bandwidth from 5G is really going to open up what an AR headset can do. This feels like tech Apple are rolling out slowly so it's on a lot of devices before the real use cases come out.
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That aside, shouldn't Apple have built UWB into AirPods Pro case at least? AirPods tracking isn't worth a damn and yet they are working on small tracking tags lol.

Hey man, they need SOMETHING to sell the next gen with!

 

[5105973]

Completely unfair to equate convenience with laziness. Why don’t we just go back to manual car keys where you have to turn it to unlock it? Or car windows you have to wind down?

Go back? I’m still driving that heap, dude.
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I was born in 1970. Not a boomer (in the voice of Arnold Schwarzenegger). I have worked in high tech my entire life...software developer, architecture lead, network admin, building computers, etc. You may not like my dad-like crankyness today (which I admit there is) but that does not discredit me. Most see a lot of the tech stuff today as black-boxes; I know how they work from the guts up.

Your dadlike crankiness is glorious to behold. It is a thing of beauty and art. I bow before your greatness. I can only achieve such grumpiness when I have been delayed getting to my morning coffee.

 

[I7guy]

Right. Because the way we've been unlocking car doors the past 90 years is difficult. </sarcasm>

I, for one, have absolutely no need for this garbage. Others may. It's just more mishmosh and junk to manage as I constantly need to upgrade iOS and then the app...or I can't update the app without updating iOS (I've had this problem with bank apps and I stopped using them). Then the battery (on the other device) dies or needs charging. Blah blah blah.

What's next? Flush the toilet from my iPhone using the free iFlush app with ads? It's easy! Just swipe open your phone with your dirty finger, tap the iFlush app with your other dirty finger, watch the 15 second ad about 1/2 price colonoscopy screenings in your area, then choose which toilet you want to flush, then hold down the "drop" icon for 4 seconds to flush urine or hold down the "log" icon for 9 seconds to flush fecal matter. You can also spend $5.99 to rid the ads and be able to shake your iPhone 4 times for urine or 9 times for fecal.

The ridiculous comes with the sublime. Don't think anybody would want to turn back the clock on advancements in medical tech for example. And I like being able to start my car from my phone to warm it in cold weather. Pick and choose what you want and throw the rest away. But they'll still come no matter what we here on MacRumors say.
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Go back? I’m still driving that heap, dude.
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Me as well. I'm still driving that 2005 Subaru.

 

[firewood]

Right. Because the way we've been unlocking car doors the past 90 years is difficult.

Yup. The lock on that old 60's station wagon was perfectly convenient, except when the GF broke the key in the lock on a frozen day... twice. Also convenient because I could pop the lock with a bent coat hanger, and easily jump the ignition with some alligator clips, handy if I forgot my key. Also convenient for the thief who stole my backpack the day I walked off and forgot to lock all the rear doors.

Not possible with the Tesla, where I hear all the doors lock after walking away 10 paces. With hypothetical AWB on my Apple Watch, maybe that will get cut down to 3 or 4 paces.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

The lock on that old 60's station wagon was perfectly convenient

And, they didn’t make a LOT of different locks. There was a chance that your neighbor could have a key that would unlock your doors or start your car.

 

[manu chao]

So, your iPod should be one device, your phone should be a second device and your internet communicator should be a third device.

I think the risk assessment works more the other way around. The more versatile each individual device is, the more redundancy you have. If both your phone and watch can open your door, then you can forget/loose/run-out-of-battery/damage one of them and still open the door. If only your key can open the door, then forgetting/losing that key means game over.

(Security aspects are a somewhat separate matter which are more difficult to assess generically.)

 

[Unregistered 4U]

I think the risk assessment works more the other way around. The more versatile each individual device is, the more redundancy you have.

Absolutely, it’s a basic risk/reward assessment that infers many scenarios. Even ones that aren’t applicable to eggs (things that are discrete, physical and effectively identical).

For example, I could put ALL my eggs (features) in one basket (device) if I then replicated those eggs in, say, two other baskets! Then, I could drop a basket with zero impact! I’m sure there’s a senior thesis in there somewhere.

 

[CryptoRoo]

Right. Because the way we've been unlocking car doors the past 90 years is difficult. </sarcasm>

I, for one, have absolutely no need for this garbage. Others may. It's just more mishmosh and junk to manage as I constantly need to upgrade iOS and then the app...or I can't update the app without updating iOS (I've had this problem with bank apps and I stopped using them). Then the battery (on the other device) dies or needs charging. Blah blah blah.

bringing ultimate laziness one step closer. Technology at its finest. It's just so hard to flip a switch or turn a key with that thing on the end of your arm called a hand

This is extremely short sighted. It's easy to look at this only from your perspective however it can help a LOT of people who are handicapped or have other physical issues. My GF has fibromialga and is currently suffering excruciating pain in her wrists. Something that would allow her to unlock her door or use things more easily and automatically without having to interact with her hands since it's painful to do so right now would be amazing. The word "lazy" is only to judge yourself or others and serves no useful purpose to a conversation.

 

[I7guy]

Yup. The lock on that old 60's station wagon was perfectly convenient, except when the GF broke the key in the lock on a frozen day... twice. Also convenient because I could pop the lock with a bent coat hanger, and easily jump the ignition with some alligator clips, handy if I forgot my key. Also convenient for the thief who stole my backpack the day I walked off and forgot to lock all the rear doors.

Not possible with the Tesla, where I hear all the doors lock after walking away 10 paces. With hypothetical AWB on my Apple Watch, maybe that will get cut down to 3 or 4 paces.

But not so good the day I walked away from the car, and it self locked and I lost my keys and couldn’t get back in on a cold day. Always plus or minuses, @PickUrPoison ...lol

 

[wgq]

Right. Because the way we've been unlocking car doors the past 90 years is difficult. </sarcasm>

I, for one, have absolutely no need for this garbage. Others may. It's just more mishmosh and junk to manage as I constantly need to upgrade iOS and then the app...or I can't update the app without updating iOS (I've had this problem with bank apps and I stopped using them). Then the battery (on the other device) dies or needs charging. Blah blah blah.

What's next? Flush the toilet from my iPhone using the free iFlush app with ads? It's easy! Just swipe open your phone with your dirty finger, tap the iFlush app with your other dirty finger, watch the 15 second ad about 1/2 price colonoscopy screenings in your area, then choose which toilet you want to flush, then hold down the "drop" icon for 4 seconds to flush urine or hold down the "log" icon for 9 seconds to flush fecal matter. You can also spend $5.99 to rid the ads and be able to shake your iPhone 4 times for urine or 9 times for fecal.

The beneift of proximity-based features is that they don't require the kind of interaction you're describing in your reply. An Apple Watch is on your wrist or a phone is in your pocket so all you need to do is walk away and the toilet will know you're done and flush automatically. No need to interact with your devices and no need to touch a dirty flush handle either.